Disney's Agenda Leaked

I understand where you’re coming from, but like… society just isn’t there. I’m one of the few posters on this site who leans left (should be obvious from my post history if you ever read any of it), and even I have never asked a person, upon first meeting them, ‘what pronoun should I use with you’. It simply doesn’t come up in my life. Perhaps if I spent essentially all of my time immersed in the LGBTQ+ community and meeting new people all the time who use the pronouns you prefer, it would ‘feel’ more like a thing you do when you meet someone. But a pretty small percentage of the population is actually living that way on a daily basis. Hell, I don’t even meet a new person most days, lol.

My point being, crusading for a particular thing that you prefer is all well and good, but the expectation for everyone else to just already be there, when the evidence is clear that isn’t the case, is not going to get you the results you want, and more often than not, your ideas will get rejected harder. Particularly on a website like this. Again, you’re posting on a primarily weightlifting-oriented website that generally attracts certain demographics. The LGBTQ+ community is underrepresented here, to say the least.

I wish you would drop the run-on sentences, miss.

Good lord, the irony.

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Certain demographics is a light way to say it. Yeah, I get it. Men being the major demographic because of the word testosterone. Which men score higher on domestic violence against women (especially from religious misognyny), homophobia (especially by killing gay men in Saudi Arabia), transphobia (because toxic masculinity prevents them from politely asking what people’s pronouns are, so they can continue being sexist assholes rather than compassionate by accommodating people), political tyranny, warmongering, con artistry, antisocial personality, etc.

So, I wouldn’t be surprised if men, the demographic here, wouldn’t support progressivism and L.G.B.T.Q. stuff, so they can try to appear strongly masculine but being assholes in the process when showing toxic masculinity. I’ve sensed lots of toxic masculinity in here. Toxic masculinity that’s responsible for creating militaries in the first place. Toxic masculinity from very rich men who treat lower-class men like slaves by requiring lower-class men to register for military enlistment rather than women in many countries, so very rich men can extort money and power from profitable wars while lower-class people suffer.

Toxic masculinity responsible for killing gay men, transgender people, women, children, journalists, activists, people who don’t want to follow religion, etc. So, yeah. I don’t really expect female traits like compassion, accommodating people, being ethical, and other shit on here. I expect men feeding toxic masculinity while our world burns to benefit very rich men who don’t give a fuck about people’s well-being. Sure, I’ve expressed my feelings on here. But I know this world is fucked up mostly because of evil men with their religions that belittle women, cut-throat politics, increasing propaganda in mainstream media by bullying journalists like Julian Assange, increasing wealth inequality between women and men, sweatshops, child slavery responsible for creating smartphones, animal abuse in meat/dairy industries, etc.

So, I’m not really surprised to see the vile behavior from these men on here anymore. I also know that women are capable of doing evil things, too. I’m disgusted by women who make the world more dystopian. I would rather live in a different world than this one because of all of these things.

My deepest condolences for not altering how I interact with the entire world to accomodate your preferences.

These people have no real life problems.

Well, I didn’t actually mean men by that. I meant something more specific, let’s say ‘types of people’, whether male or female. There are certainly more men than women on this site, but it’s maybe not as skewed as one would think. But I was saying something more than ‘it’s a lot of men here.’ More specifically, it’s humans who are attracted to hardcore weightlifting sites/bodybuilding-oriented sites. That is a very particular niche.

yea, not interested in getting into male bashing. I’d prefer to keep it more civil in that regard. I’m not down for the whole ‘men are the root of all evil’ conversation. Or that men are inherently bad. Or whatever. Not going there. I’m perfectly willing to talk about the concept of toxic masculinity, but it’s not gonna turn into a hate fest for me.

it sounds like you’re equating conservative politics and masculinity. I will disagree with that correlation. Correct me if that’s not what you meant here.

slow down there stranger, lol. You’ve been here all of… a few hours? ‘anymore’ seems to be a bit dramatic.

So all that being said, I think you’re far more interested in shouting about things you don’t like than having real conversations that have the potential for productivity. So with that, I’ll be bowing out of our conversation. I certainly hope you prove me wrong, though.

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Welp, you’re the last person he hasn’t blocked so he’ll be shouting at the wind now.

I respect your ability to read and respond to utter nonsense for sure.

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I’d say I am generally one of the more liberal ones here. I don’t care what consenting adults do with each other. I don’t care if you’re LGBTQ.

That being said, it isn’t toxic to assume a pronoun. It is toxic to not respect it if someone corrects you. The burden initially belongs to the one who wants to to be called something outside of standard language.

Have you considered the very reasonable possibility that someone may be offended if you ask them what their pronouns are? That question has implications that many people may not take well. For example, a more masculine woman who wants to be feminine could easily be offended if just randomly asked what they identify as.

Neither would I, and I agree there’s a difference between 1960 and 1760. Cheating on wives and raping women seems to have remained a constant for great men in history though.

That has nothing to do with anything that I was saying.

I wholeheartedly endorse the FF’s treatment of Natives. I’ve yet to be shown any example of when they did anything wrong to the country’s tribes.

Space Mountain

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Another clown

thats my pronoun for you

Who are you not mad at?

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I can almost guarentee you the list is comprised of non-whites and women, specifically.

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That is clear, including the grievance against straight white men, especially industrious ones. I understand some of the grievances, particularly about exploitative and abusive scumbags, but it appears the rage goes beyond that.

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Whatever it is…WorkSmartPlaySmart will awake in a few hours, hidden within the bowels of her parent’s basement, to…“FiGhT tHe PaTrIaRcHy and stuff!”

Or ever acceptable in any culture even going back to the founding fathers…

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Being Native American myself - I call complete bullshit on this. I have a canned response for anyone that puts forth this garbage.

What we see here is a prime example of what is called “presentism” . Presentism is when historical accounts are judged by the standards of the present. Most scholars will agree that it is a rather ignorant way to look at the past.

So let’s instead look at what was acceptable, and encouraged during the time of colonial America. Throughout much of history (including the 1600’s) it was normal for a conquering army to claim the lands of their defeated foe. This is a practice that goes back into antiquity with the Persian, Greeks Romans, Egyptian, Israelis, Chinese and many other cultures taking part.

Taking land by conquest was also a part of Native American culture. Creek Indians conquered land from Choctaws and Chickasaws and the Creeks. Comanches came in and took the land from the Apaches by war, Aztecs, Incas and Mayans all grew their empires by conquering lands from other tribes. The Tainos and Canib tribes fought over land. When Spain Defeated the Aztec empire, the did so with an army of 1,000 Spanish soldiers and 75,000 soldiers from the Tlaxcallans, Choulatecs and Totonac tribes.

The practice of claiming the land of conquered enemies extended well past the colonization of America. It wasn’t until the conclusion of World War II in 1945 that western culture shunned the practice (and even then, the Soviet Union claimed Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Austria, and many other territories as part of their victory spoils).

To claim “white Europeans” “stole” America from the native tribes is to force the cultural norms of the past 50 years (that white Europeans created) on events that happened hundreds of years earlier. That is just ignorant.

You can only have it one way:

  1. Colonization and invasion are evil, everywhere, across the board. People who consider themselves inidigenous to an area or continent should be encouraged and praised in their savage efforts to drive out an invading force.

  2. Colonization and invasion are naturally occurring elements of the human animal, as it follows both an evolutionary and learned directive to expand, explore, and conquer.

This line of questioning leads the inquisitive mind further:

Indigenous peoples are those who have been born in an area or on an entire landmass since…?

If we follow certain evolutionary narratives, such as the “Out of Africa” theory (debunked many times, yet still put forward by those with an axe to grind as viable), who can claim “indigenous” status to anywhere, or can all claim indigenous to everywhere?

Either there are more nuances to consider than a simple: “Fuck Columbus and founding fathers,”

and judging a character from the past with the morality of the present is a certain recipe for an ignorant concept of history…

Or-

Man is an animal, might is right, and bleeding hearts should be left to exsanguinate.

You can only have it one way.

In short, if you want my take:

‘Indigenous peoples’ defended their homeland from invasion with savage ferocity.

Columbus/Europeans conquered them.

Conquest and expansion are inevitable.

Those pushing guilt on Columbus’ and founding fathers heirs and those pushing the celebration of ‘indigenous peoples’ are engaged in conquest by another—conniving, cowardly, snake-like—means.

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My pronouns are huge cock / giant balls / monster dick / enormous sock tucker.

I expect you to use them correctly or I am going to call you a bigot.

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Why should any place do that.

No one has to do that with real men and women.

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