That’s why I said I give it to those I care about. They take it well since they are in my circle if people. I don’t let any people in my circle that can’t take 1) an offensive joke well or 2) some tough love.
Most girls are lost causes anyways today. I don’t waste my breath telling them something they don’t want to hear and don’t accept anyways until it’s too late.
Well first of all, I don’t sit down. Second, my girl does not go on girls nights outs or all girl holiday trips and does not get her slut on otherwise I would not be with her.
I know plenty of German men that get cucked. But I also am very generous in calling them men, as they usually don’t display any traditional male traits.
I agree. Women are often very aggressively pursuing men but most of the time do it way more subtly since they still want the men to make the moves for them to feel like women. Where I’ve seen women completely go berserk is when they get rejected. The wrath of a rejected woman is incredible. The shit they pull when their ego gets hurt would land men in jail. Granted, these are the women I would never enter a relationship with one of them. But having an inflated ego seems to be the rule for women nowadays.
The biggest lie we tell women is that working for a corporation is more full filling than being a home maker and having children. The statistics are also clear on this, but one is not allowed to state it in public. But as you said, they won’t get the men they want, since these men are masculine and masculine men like feminine traditional women.
This is exactly right and any man should know this. The instinct of men is to provide and protect (for) their family. Yes that goes along with leading and having the last say. But these decisions are made in the interest of everyone involved. You can’t have all the responsibility but no power. And we know for a fact women in general are fond of this dynamic as it is also established science that women always go for men with HIGHER status and abilities than they have. Women love men that make them feel inferior. Women want competent men. Women want to submit.
The problem is we’ve told women that this instinct is only useful during sex. Cooking? No! That’s oppression!
I disagree strongly. Women don’t want to be equal. They loathe men who are their equal or below. They want a man in charge. And you eben say it here directly:
Don’t wanna throw shade brother, but I would advise to never apologize when you didn’t severely fuck something up. Never argue with your wife, she’s just testing your manliness. There’s a few things I do when my girl tries to pull shit: I do not engage, I question the whole premise, or I simply destroy her argument with the Socratic method and then see her struggle with her own irrationality. I don’t argue at all but I don’t let her “win” these tests. Women argue emotionally, there’s often no rational reason why they argue, and that’s how I treat it usually.
Women often start an argument about something while the topic is completely irrelevant. It’s often about something else, an emotional reason.
There are obviously times when I did fuck something up but that does not lead to her arguing seriously with me.
Edit: let me add that all of my statements pertain to sexual relationships. When there’s love/sex involved women change. During work relationships, I do think women can be quite rational in arguments. (I still see only women complaining about how hard everything is at work but that’s another story)
@lordgains Great posts! I don’t want to sound like a wiseass or start trouble but just a few years ago you might have been told, “You sound like a misogynist/incel.” I’m so relieved we have level-headed, highly-intelligent men who can deal with reality and conversations in an unemotional manner, even ones I oppose sociopolitically.
I think we might be on the same page here, but I try to leave my feelings about politics and what I wish society was out of the picture when I discuss intersexual relationships. Nature does really not care about my political preferences.
I think this attack is very funny, since it most often comes from men who lack all male traits and let women walk all over them or women who can’t keep a man by their side or are unsatisfied in their relationship because they are able to dominate their man. I’ve never been called that since I usually keep this conversation between me and my close friends who know it is exactly to the contrary. I’ve also never written this extensively about the topic either. I also keep away from all social media besides this forum essentially.
I disagree but understand your perspective, I say number 3 holds water on it’s own. I’m 100% for equality - if a woman wants to go work, go right ahead; if she’s terrible at cooking and cleaning as a result, I find that acceptable. If the couple is able to comfortably live with one person working, then I think it is reasonable for the other partner to fully invest themselves in home making/raising children (notice I didn’t specify a gender).
What I’m saying is that because of this 3rd wave feminist bullshit, women revolt against cooking and cleaning, demand equal pay, but refuse the responsibilities that are burdened by men. Strange that they never complain about being under-represented in the brick layer, sewage cleaning or otherwise dangerous professions. You also don’t hear men complaining about owning >90% of workplace injuries and deaths, but that’s because no one gives a shit about men… we’re the bad guys .
Women are the other half(ish) of humanities’ brain power. If they have an aptitude for something in a field of work - they ought to go ahead and do that! I’m not a feminist, I’m pro-productivity.
This is actually a topic I long for discussing with some intelligent minds. Maybe not the thread for it, but if it ever comes up, please tag me. I think one person working is not manageable for most households anymore and I would like to hear some opinions on why and how to fix it.
Well this is not a case where the man is an equal, in the woman’s perspective. Far from that.
I may have generalized a bit based on my observations, but if my comment in any way insulted you, I apologize.
I’ve witnessed that too. From starting rumors to keying your car.
It is also the fact that women like to have positions that have them at the front and center.
And, if you had a sister, you they like to play with our toys.
Of course they want to run a corporation, fly jets, enlist in the army.
Shit, some of then even have penises now.
That’s my point. As soon as you are equal on a objective level you are below her in her perspective. Women want to look up to their men. Which means the man can’t be an equal simultaneously. You can also have equal responsibilities, as long as the woman thinks you are not it’s fine.
No offense taken. My point was to say that me and my friends are not getting together with the women you see going out on trips and banging the pool boy. But they definitely exist everywhere here in Germany. Germany is not much different culture wise than the cities in the US. There is no such thing as conservatism here. The most conservative the mainstream gets is mainstream democrat in the US (and they get called Nazis here, funnily enough).
I don’t know if that’s true but, the only way for women to level the playing field with men in the workplace or even in education, which leads to the workplace, is by making men become more like women.
Undergraduate enrollment in the U.S., by gender 2031| Statista.
What I was getting at in my original comment was that feminism and transgenderism likely aren’t related - at least IMO. Nothing makes feminists angrier than saying “Men are so great at everything that even when we become women, we’re better at that too”.
Why are fewer males than females going to college? College used to be the place where conflict, in the form of debates and arguments, were encouraged. Those who were confident in their beliefs, outgoing and brave thrived in that environment. Now, college is about accepting an orthodoxy that portrays masculinity as toxic and tolerance for contradictory ideas is seen as heretical as believing in those ideas. Submission and conformity are rewarded while rebellion, dissent and skepticism are sins.
Related, from the book I have recommended several times, which, after reading, someone will understand how all elements of sexual Revolution work in lockstep.
Again, I’ll try to get back to your question later or on the weekend.
I would venture to say if you looked at trade school enrollments by gender, you’d find it dominated by men. This being the case, i think this is a strong contributing factor. Women tend to not want manual labor jobs and some men yearn for them.
It’s almost as if men and women have different interests and talents that are statistically measurable…
“It’s an excellent sign of the times that things are moving in the right direction, but you can’t help but feel like there’s bitter aftertaste [when] acknowledging the fact it is even worthy of discussion,” Evans says of such representation 27 years after Pixar’s first feature film, “Toy Story.” Doing so “reveals the fact that it’s long overdue, and reveals the fact that it’s something that is still not the norm. So there’s still a long way to go.”
So apparently, Disney is not good enough until same sex relationships in their movies are THE NORM. This may be a slight over representation of what he meant, but even if so, his words of choice make it clear that they want and will do more of those.
I consider myself fairly traditional when it comes to relationships and gender roles, but is this really the way you think of the women in your relationships? As irrational idiots? I’m pretty sure it’s possible to display masculine characteristics and lead a household without “never letting her win.”
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