Obviously that wouldn’t help get them off the endangered list.
I don’t believe anyone chooses to be gay.
Not sure what relevance this has.
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Thank you.
Honestly I don’t either for the most part.
Sorry, I elaborated more while you were replying. So maybe now I made a better point or maybe I’m still jumping around too much.
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This is literally the purpose of life. Anticlimactic, i know.
Unless you’re a monkey or dog that gets trained by humans to pilot your spacecraft… but still i don’t think this qualifies as “helping your own species”
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At the core, yes, not being able to reproduce is not good for the species.
Are you also outraged by those than are not gay and choose to not reproduce? That lifestyle is plastered all over TV.
I bet those people far outnumber those that are gay.
In regards to purpose, as highly social creatures, it’s not that black and white. Would you call a gay doctor that discovers a cure for cancer, purposeless? Or not good for the species?
No, and I was never outraged by gay dudes in the first place. I just dont want it rammed down my kid’s throat (pun intended). Nice to see you still low key putting out the narrative that we must be “outraged” by the gays to disagree with adults pushing this ideology onto children though.
In the grand scheme of things? No, but you’re also changing the question from what you originally asked - good try though.
All of this has nothing to do with the subject, which is a highly influential children’s entertainment company deliberately trying to over-emphasize the trans problem. And yes, i mean problem. Idgaf if someone is trans or not; it should be neither punished nor celebrated. But to continue pushing this ideology into kids is morally abhorrent, considering the gender dysphoric population has a 40% suicide attempt rate - regardless of pre/post op surgery.
But you should keep gaslighting this concern as just us being “transphobic/homophobic” though.
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Exactly. Well stated.
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Apologies I did get a bit off topic with regards to the thread.
I actually think what Disney is doing is stupid. The solution is simple, don’t watch anything Disney.
Don’t really see much of a concern with it being taught in school but at the same time don’t think it’s necessary.
I don’t agree that it’s as big as of impact as you guys are making it out to be.
If you agree that people don’t choose to be gay, then should have low to no impact.
Serious question, If gay people don’t choose to be gay, then is being gay genetic?
Honestly, I couldn’t care less about this apology; stop pushing the narrative that you have been. Just because I want my child(ren) to learn about homosexuality when their ready rather than when their teacher decides to doesn’t mean I’m homophobic - your pushing of that narrative is both dangerous and void of fact.
I think it’s 50/50 choice/learned behavior. If the subject were trans, I would say it is 100% learned behavior (with exception to Klinefelter’s). If we really want to go down that rabbit hole, let me ask you this question: If being gay isn’t a choice, is being a pedophile a choice?
If tik tok is any indicator, it’s around 134%.
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I viewed this thread earlier today and if I recall correctly, what was said was most people in America, including leftists, do not support pedophilia, and that is correct.
But practically speaking, in America, with enough determination, money, and media and celebrity support, even a fringe group can get their way.
Also, there are things that many Americans would consider ridiculous, 50, maybe even only 30, years ago, that they consider just fine now, or they are not fine with but express approval for outwardly for social standing and because of overwhelming peer pressure, or because of the principle of “freedom”.
For America I say, “never say never,” and, “don’t say it can’t happen.”
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Yes.
Having the desire is not a choice.
Acting upon those desires are.
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That’s awesome! The first children naturally conceived by same sex parents! Incredible! Evolution happening before our eyes!
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I’ve pondered this one myself. There are definitely people who I observed in my childhood that were as far as I’d known them (from 5-6 yo), were either very feminine boys, or masculine girls that showed no interest in boys. They turned out, no surprise as gay when they got older.
So far the scientists haven’t found a gene for gayness. Also if gayness was inherited surely it is very difficult(especially pre IVF), for it to occur because it would mean same sex attracted people having lots of sex with the opposite sex. Over thousands of years the gene would have been bred out for the most part.
Its a complicated question for sure.
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This is why I disagree that it is genetic.
There are genetic markers though, as in traits/behaviors that are passed down genetically (which does not include the genome). How do isolated populations of prey animals suddenly know when a predator is present when none have ever encountered one before?
EDIT: I don’t mean to conflate homosexuality with predator/prey behaviors, I say this to contextually point out that some behavior is learned - and I think this is one of them. “Learned” does not necessarily mean “taught”, rather observed and imprinted to an extent.
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Gave it a bit more thought, and maybe it isn’t fully a genetic thing. It’s probably much more complicated than an on/off switch.
Still don’t think it’s a choice. I don’t think any of us really choose the things that interest us. Only choice we have is the choice to pursue those interests.
I would agree with the context of this statement.
I’ve been meaning to ask, do you actually have a kid? You come across as not, but I could be wrong.
So much of what I’m seeing in this thread seems to describe a phenomenon in schools that I’m just not seeing in the real world. Do you personally know ANY parents who have kids coming home suggesting this is actually happening at school? I do not. We’ve got 50 million public school children in the US today, so I will readily admit that you can find examples of basically anything happening in public schools if you look for it. The population size is too big for this not to happen. Yes, you can find an example here and there of some weirdo Elementary teacher or school that embraces pushing gay/trans ‘ideology’. But that doesn’t make it a ‘real’ problem outside of a few isolated incidents, AND no legislation will change that.
I will also say that, at least in Texas, we have FAR bigger public school issues to deal with. I’m not sure I would react the way the left has to the Florida bill if something similar passed in Texas, but I’d be pretty fucking annoyed that that was a priority here, when Texas already sucks at supporting its public schools.
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