That’s true. I didn’t read carefully enough to extract that information, I just assumed… Obviously a fatal mistake. I apologize
[quote]Thomasm122 wrote:
That’s true. I didn’t read carefully enough to extract that information, I just assumed… Obviously a fatal mistake. I apologize[/quote]
No worries.
Yep, it’s a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor . It’s not to play with for sure , but it was a net gain. Medicine is a part of the picture , it shouldn’t be the whole thing. It all has it’s place. I’ve taken pain killers at times . Not often , but I have. I’ve had one cortisone shot. It was helpful. It allowed me to do more rehab on my shoulder exercise wise with a net gain overall.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Thomasm122 wrote:
Of course people are going to benefit from consuming amphetamines; in regards to work output [/quote]
True ADHD actually slows the child/persons thought processes down so they can increase work output. If you do not have ADHD it affects the person just like speed/caffeine or illicit Meth.
Tom’s daughter was not on an amphetamine, Strattera is a non-narcotic/amphetamine based medication. Asking pertinent questions is not confrontational, however making statements based on misinformation can be. [/quote]
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Yep, it’s a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor . It’s not to play with for sure , but it was a net gain. Medicine is a part of the picture , it shouldn’t be the whole thing. It all has it’s place. I’ve taken pain killers at times . Not often , but I have. I’ve had one cortisone shot. It was helpful. It allowed me to do more rehab on my shoulder exercise wise with a net gain overall.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Thomasm122 wrote:
Of course people are going to benefit from consuming amphetamines; in regards to work output [/quote]
True ADHD actually slows the child/persons thought processes down so they can increase work output. If you do not have ADHD it affects the person just like speed/caffeine or illicit Meth.
Tom’s daughter was not on an amphetamine, Strattera is a non-narcotic/amphetamine based medication. Asking pertinent questions is not confrontational, however making statements based on misinformation can be. [/quote]
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Strattera is a hit or miss when I was prescribing it, worked a lot better in over 16 years old. Great thing is it not being a triplicate we had samples so we could try them out for 6 weeks prior to writing the script.
Interesting discussion.
I agree with Lew on almost everything. Couple of thoughts based on the what was said so far.
Your brother was a dick if he called you guys over specifically because he had an agenda. He should have cleared the air in private with you guys before inviting you over for a social function.
Everyone was wrong for getting into an argument in front of the kids and especially when it’s about the kids. Some things you fight about in private. Then they have to listen to two adults curse at each other and we wonder how they will act. Sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and address the situation at a later date. Once the name calling begins then it’s no longer a discussion and no good will come from any further conversation.
The brother told you to leave and you didn’t. Why? That was a good time for you to all bid your farewells and get out of that situation. He says “leave” and you say “great idea, I’ll call you tomorrow when we’ve all had time to sleep on it”.
Good on your wife for apologizing but an e-mail isn’t sufficient in my book. I would call your brother and offer to sit down and talk it through. If he says no then so be it.
About ADHD, I think it’s too easy both to say that a child has it and that it’s the result of lazy parenting. Yes, the drugs get perscribed too often and it’s a very mis-diagnosed problem. But to say that it doesn’t exist at all is ignorant. And to say that it wasn’t around 50 years ago is even more ignorant because the fact that it wasn’t diagnosed doesn’t mean it didn’t exist.
james
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter.
[quote]atypical1 wrote:
Interesting discussion.
I agree with Lew on almost everything. Couple of thoughts based on the what was said so far.
Your brother was a dick if he called you guys over specifically because he had an agenda. He should have cleared the air in private with you guys before inviting you over for a social function.
Everyone was wrong for getting into an argument in front of the kids and especially when it’s about the kids. Some things you fight about in private. Then they have to listen to two adults curse at each other and we wonder how they will act. Sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and address the situation at a later date. Once the name calling begins then it’s no longer a discussion and no good will come from any further conversation.
The brother told you to leave and you didn’t. Why? That was a good time for you to all bid your farewells and get out of that situation. He says “leave” and you say “great idea, I’ll call you tomorrow when we’ve all had time to sleep on it”.
Good on your wife for apologizing but an e-mail isn’t sufficient in my book. I would call your brother and offer to sit down and talk it through. If he says no then so be it.
About ADHD, I think it’s too easy both to say that a child has it and that it’s the result of lazy parenting. Yes, the drugs get perscribed too often and it’s a very mis-diagnosed problem. But to say that it doesn’t exist at all is ignorant. And to say that it wasn’t around 50 years ago is even more ignorant because the fact that it wasn’t diagnosed doesn’t mean it didn’t exist.
james
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100% agree
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
I did not follow the link but I have found adding more magnesium and vitamin E to my diet has helped with my migraines. My neurologist suggested it and I played around with the timing til I got it right.
Monkeys, typewriters and all that jazz
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
Unfortunately, the “alternative medicine” approach is too easily turned into New Age-y, chakras and healing crystals-type bullshit, so I get why you are making fun of this.
But, with that said, there is no doubt that a lot of problems are either caused or made worse by simple-to-fix things like dietary issues.
Case in point… If you look up the deficiency symptoms of nearly ANY major vitamin, you’ll find depression on the list. I’m not talking being so deficient you get night-blindness or scurvy, we’re talking marginal but chronic deficiencies. So if you have someone who NEVER eats any vegetables and only eats pre-packaged meals or stuff from a drive-thru, and that person is depressed, is it too “New Age-y” to examine their dietary intake before you put them on powerful SSRIs? The pharmaceutical companies would say yes, just give him the pills. And regular doctors would too, because a 10-minute visit doesn’t give them time to do nutritional counseling, assuming they even know any more than you do about nutrition.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
I did not follow the link but I have found adding more magnesium and vitamin E to my diet has helped with my migraines. My neurologist suggested it and I played around with the timing til I got it right.
Monkeys, typewriters and all that jazz[/quote]
As an adult there are definite uses for what you have done in relation to Migraines.
And again who suggested it?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
I did not follow the link but I have found adding more magnesium and vitamin E to my diet has helped with my migraines. My neurologist suggested it and I played around with the timing til I got it right.
Monkeys, typewriters and all that jazz[/quote]
As an adult there are definite uses for what you have done in relation to Migraines.
And again who suggested it? [/quote]
He heard the suggestion from a patient. Suggested to other patients, got good results. With migraines there is a lot of experimentation. But, yes it was my neurologist. (I am helping him with his shoulder rehab, by the way)
That said, I figured out my chronic inflamation, wrist issues, and more myself -despite seeing several doctors, all prescribing meds - on my own; dairy is no longer my friend.
My point is both doctor and patient need to be informed and have good communication. I worked from my doctor’s suggestion but worked hard to figure out the best way to do it. It is actually a rather precise thing.
If someone has a good doctor, they need to trust her/him but also be diligent on their own part as well.
Now my thought are wandering. It is hard to write while reading Dr. Seuss to a 3 yr old.
[quote]BobParr wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
Unfortunately, the “alternative medicine” approach is too easily turned into New Age-y, chakras and healing crystals-type bullshit, so I get why you are making fun of this.
But, with that said, there is no doubt that a lot of problems are either caused or made worse by simple-to-fix things like dietary issues.
Case in point… If you look up the deficiency symptoms of nearly ANY major vitamin, you’ll find depression on the list. I’m not talking being so deficient you get night-blindness or scurvy, we’re talking marginal but chronic deficiencies. So if you have someone who NEVER eats any vegetables and only eats pre-packaged meals or stuff from a drive-thru, and that person is depressed, is it too “New Age-y” to examine their dietary intake before you put them on powerful SSRIs? The pharmaceutical companies would say yes, just give him the pills. And regular doctors would too, because a 10-minute visit doesn’t give them time to do nutritional counseling, assuming they even know any more than you do about nutrition.
[/quote]
but, eating the SAD can’t cause all these problems we’re seeing today? surely, eating better can’t drastically improve just about any health condition?
case in point, you still have docs/people today spouting off that acne and diet are not related. Talk about nonsense, and that goes for numerous other things, including mental issues.
Am I saying all things can be corrected? No…
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
I did not follow the link but I have found adding more magnesium and vitamin E to my diet has helped with my migraines. My neurologist suggested it and I played around with the timing til I got it right.
Monkeys, typewriters and all that jazz[/quote]
As an adult there are definite uses for what you have done in relation to Migraines.
And again who suggested it? [/quote]
He heard the suggestion from a patient. Suggested to other patients, got good results. With migraines there is a lot of experimentation. But, yes it was my neurologist. (I am helping him with his shoulder rehab, by the way)
That said, I figured out my chronic inflamation, wrist issues, and more myself -despite seeing several doctors, all prescribing meds - on my own; dairy is no longer my friend.
My point is both doctor and patient need to be informed and have good communication. I worked from my doctor’s suggestion but worked hard to figure out the best way to do it. It is actually a rather precise thing.
If someone has a good doctor, they need to trust her/him but also be diligent on their own part as well.
Now my thought are wandering. It is hard to write while reading Dr. Seuss to a 3 yr old.[/quote]
Hell I do all this between doing physicals and being the boss.
Put this shit down AG and spend time with the 3 yr old.
I also agree with what your wrote and as an adult you can do that.
Treating children is very, very different.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
To the OP have you and your wife looked into environmental or diet causes for your children’s ADHD? A book that my wife and I have recently read due to her migraine headaches is the Ultra Mind Solution. You might be able to add some vitamins and minerals into their diets and see a huge change. Link below.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549714/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=8420488137&ref=pd_sl_4kug9o7n0_b [/quote]
OP have you tried hitting them? Maybe its your religion maybe you should try Hindu. Maybe since its 2012 you should try some type of pagan Mayan religion, I am sure there is a book. Why give them medicine that has been screened with trials etc. When you can give them some vitamin or mineral that Joe Bob made in his bathtub it totally cured his daughter. [/quote]
The “one star” comments on amazon are what you would expect.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
your brother has no business giving his opinion, let along getting into an argument with your wife, relative to medical decisions or how they are raised. he’s in the wrong. period.
[/quote]
Bullshit, BG. He asked the OP’s wife if she wanted it and she said “yes.” Based upon what the OP, LATER revealed, it appears that the brother was being a dick, but based upon the OP’s initial post, which you quoted; his wife opened that can of worms.[/quote]
She can open a can of worms fine. But his brother has no place yelling her down and what not. None. I’m all for being the head of the house and all that, but the ONLY person yelling at my woman is ME - not some other man and not my fucking brother. He crossed a line and I don’t care who’s house he was in. No one is a “dick” to my woman.
Wouldn’t you agree with that?
And do ya really think the wife sauntered into the house one day and said, “hey brother-in-law, what do ya think about our parenting and medical decisions?” C’mon Lew, I’m sure sure BIL was making comments, itching to have the discussion.
You know how passive/aggressive motherfuckers are, we have some right here. [/quote]
Yeah, but shouldn’t she be aware enough of him and how he is to know what was coming? We live in the real world and if both the OP and his wife are so unaware as to what was coming, maybe I can convince them to buy this nice used bridge in Brooklyn I heard about.
And like I said, you quoted what he said at first, not the additional info where he referenced his brother’s behavior and personality. The original post is what people were making suggestions on, NOT the additional info. [/quote]
I am the original poster. It’s difficult to write everything in one post.
Here’s the situation: my brother and my sister were in another room discussing my kids. My brother asked “Do you want my opinion?” My wife said yes ((she now knows this was a mistake). My brother went off on our discipline style. When he was finished, my wife asked if she could respond. As she started in, he cut her off and continued. This escalated the situation in which my brother said he didn’t want to hear anymore. He told me to get her out of the house. I refused and the argument escalated into the “drugging” of our kids. I realize everyone has an opinion on this but for the sake of this post let’s assume a couple things- we’ve done everything in our power to not use medication and that I’m pretty tough as a parent. In fact, we are making tremendous progress through the meds and discipline/ targeted behaviorial therapy. We can argue all day, and to the cows come, about meds.
I hear what you are saying about me being the head of the household and reaching back out. After my wife’s apology on text, email and phone, I feel the ball in his court. I cant post my wife’s email with her apology, but it was heartfelt.
One thing I didn’t add,as well, my brother has a long history of creating drama. When I told my other sibling that left my brothers house, he instinctively knew. My sibling asked, “let me guess, an argument was started by our brother?”
[quote]ghost87 wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
your brother has no business giving his opinion, let along getting into an argument with your wife, relative to medical decisions or how they are raised. he’s in the wrong. period.
[/quote]
Bullshit, BG. He asked the OP’s wife if she wanted it and she said “yes.” Based upon what the OP, LATER revealed, it appears that the brother was being a dick, but based upon the OP’s initial post, which you quoted; his wife opened that can of worms.[/quote]
She can open a can of worms fine. But his brother has no place yelling her down and what not. None. I’m all for being the head of the house and all that, but the ONLY person yelling at my woman is ME - not some other man and not my fucking brother. He crossed a line and I don’t care who’s house he was in. No one is a “dick” to my woman.
Wouldn’t you agree with that?
And do ya really think the wife sauntered into the house one day and said, “hey brother-in-law, what do ya think about our parenting and medical decisions?” C’mon Lew, I’m sure sure BIL was making comments, itching to have the discussion.
You know how passive/aggressive motherfuckers are, we have some right here. [/quote]
Yeah, but shouldn’t she be aware enough of him and how he is to know what was coming? We live in the real world and if both the OP and his wife are so unaware as to what was coming, maybe I can convince them to buy this nice used bridge in Brooklyn I heard about.
And like I said, you quoted what he said at first, not the additional info where he referenced his brother’s behavior and personality. The original post is what people were making suggestions on, NOT the additional info. [/quote]
I am the original poster. It’s difficult to write everything in one post.
Here’s the situation: my brother and my sister were in another room discussing my kids. My brother asked “Do you want my opinion?” My wife said yes ((she now knows this was a mistake). My brother went off on our discipline style. When he was finished, my wife asked if she could respond. As she started in, he cut her off and continued. This escalated the situation in which my brother said he didn’t want to hear anymore. He told me to get her out of the house. I refused and the argument escalated into the “drugging” of our kids. I realize everyone has an opinion on this but for the sake of this post let’s assume a couple things- we’ve done everything in our power to not use medication and that I’m pretty tough as a parent. In fact, we are making tremendous progress through the meds and discipline/ targeted behaviorial therapy. We can argue all day, and to the cows come, about meds.
I hear what you are saying about me being the head of the household and reaching back out. After my wife’s apology on text, email and phone, I feel the ball in his court. I cant post my wife’s email with her apology, but it was heartfelt.
One thing I didn’t add,as well, my brother has a long history of creating drama. When I told my other sibling that left my brothers house, he instinctively knew. My sibling asked, “let me guess, an argument was started by our brother?” [/quote]
Without knowing your brother, I am wise enough to know that when someone asks, “Do you want my opinion?” they are looking to be an ass 99% of the time. If your wife knew he was like this, she played right into it. Unless I missed it, I didn’t see whether you said she knew how he was. I am definitely not condoning your brother’s behavior, based upon the information you added, but in all the time you were together; are you saying your wife didn’t know he was a jerk? My SO’s older brother and parents are jerks and she has told me on several occasions. While I have not met them as of yet, I do know what I can look forward to when I DO finally meet him. Are you saying you didn’t warn your wife about him?
After you told us the full details, I understand EXACTLY why you reacted the way you did, but my point is, you can’t ask for advice that is going to help, if you decide not to put it all out there. Nobody’s trying to be nosy (at least I’m not)and as long as you make things anonymous enough, unless it’s someone that knows you intimately; none of us will have a clue who you are outside of TN, anyway.
Your brother ambushed your wife and then tried to kick her out of his house for disagreeing with him. I wouldn’t personally waste a lot of time or energy trying to make such an obvious ego-maniac apologize. You can attempt to patch things up if you like but your brother sounds like he’s toxic for your family and unless he comes to you with a very sincere apology, along with a promise that it will never happen again, I would not allow him around them.
[quote]ghost87 wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
your brother has no business giving his opinion, let along getting into an argument with your wife, relative to medical decisions or how they are raised. he’s in the wrong. period.
[/quote]
Bullshit, BG. He asked the OP’s wife if she wanted it and she said “yes.” Based upon what the OP, LATER revealed, it appears that the brother was being a dick, but based upon the OP’s initial post, which you quoted; his wife opened that can of worms.[/quote]
She can open a can of worms fine. But his brother has no place yelling her down and what not. None. I’m all for being the head of the house and all that, but the ONLY person yelling at my woman is ME - not some other man and not my fucking brother. He crossed a line and I don’t care who’s house he was in. No one is a “dick” to my woman.
Wouldn’t you agree with that?
And do ya really think the wife sauntered into the house one day and said, “hey brother-in-law, what do ya think about our parenting and medical decisions?” C’mon Lew, I’m sure sure BIL was making comments, itching to have the discussion.
You know how passive/aggressive motherfuckers are, we have some right here. [/quote]
Yeah, but shouldn’t she be aware enough of him and how he is to know what was coming? We live in the real world and if both the OP and his wife are so unaware as to what was coming, maybe I can convince them to buy this nice used bridge in Brooklyn I heard about.
And like I said, you quoted what he said at first, not the additional info where he referenced his brother’s behavior and personality. The original post is what people were making suggestions on, NOT the additional info. [/quote]
I am the original poster. It’s difficult to write everything in one post.
Here’s the situation: my brother and my sister were in another room discussing my kids. My brother asked “Do you want my opinion?” My wife said yes ((she now knows this was a mistake). My brother went off on our discipline style. When he was finished, my wife asked if she could respond. As she started in, he cut her off and continued. This escalated the situation in which my brother said he didn’t want to hear anymore. He told me to get her out of the house. I refused and the argument escalated into the “drugging” of our kids. I realize everyone has an opinion on this but for the sake of this post let’s assume a couple things- we’ve done everything in our power to not use medication and that I’m pretty tough as a parent. In fact, we are making tremendous progress through the meds and discipline/ targeted behaviorial therapy. We can argue all day, and to the cows come, about meds.
I hear what you are saying about me being the head of the household and reaching back out. After my wife’s apology on text, email and phone, I feel the ball in his court. I cant post my wife’s email with her apology, but it was heartfelt.
One thing I didn’t add,as well, my brother has a long history of creating drama. When I told my other sibling that left my brothers house, he instinctively knew. My sibling asked, “let me guess, an argument was started by our brother?” [/quote]
I said it the first time and I was right. Your brother IS an asshole. I know the type…lying in wait to offer their opinion. This shit doesn’t materialize in an instant like that…this shit bubbles under the surface. The tension was there…he was hiding behind a bush waiting to speak his piece and as I said before - your parenting of YOUR children and medical decisions ARE NONE OF HIS BUSINESS.
And LOL about the whole theme of women having their place and such…and I thought I was a neanderthal.
LOL @ “get her out of my house”.
I’d leave, never to return. Fuck him.