Did Steroids Make Me Paranoid?

Pharma
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[quote]Aeon wrote:
I’ve actually had this happen BEFORE steroids. I have woken up and attacked people in my room thinking they were trying to kill me, when instead they were just someone coming in to wake me up. But the effects normally never lasted this long. Normally after I calm down from one of these episodes (they can last a few minutes), I fall back to sleep and am 100%.
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Congrats on learning what a CNS supercharged by androgens feels like. If you have a mental condition that can be aggervated by catecholamines then test (and anything else that increases those neurotransmitters) probably isn’t going to make it better.

[quote]Aeon wrote:
I feel I should see a doctor about this, but I don’t want them to say ‘oh it’s just because of steroids, that’s the only reason’. So I wanted to ask here first, has anyone experienced anything like this while on gear? Could this event be a result of gear or just a mere coincidence?
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The gear might have helped trigger this instance, but who cares. If this has happened before without any help then it will probably happen again. Go to a doc and get some help. Leave out any information about the test and any other recs you might have taken. That way the doc will have to get off his/her ass and find the real problem. If you tell them, as you fear, they will just say “Stop that, problem solved”, and close your file.

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Why is it that people will completely deny anecdotal evidence if it disagrees with their assumptions, but will post it as conclusive information when it has to do with things that make themselves feel good?

Groovy, test made you two feel better. But test, and anabolic/androgenic steroids, play on the hormonal system, and hormonal imbalances can cause mood disorders in some people.

You’re not really denying that hormonal imbalances can cause changes in mood, are you? Please tell me you aren’t.

You can rely on statistics for a general idea, but you never really know what hormones or hormone analogues will do to your system until you take them. In most people, intelligently taken, they can cause improvements in mood.

Most.

Personal experiences are completely irrelevant anecdotes in regards to another person’s experience.

It’s like saying, “SSRI’s made me feel good…ergo it’s impossible that they didn’t make you feel good. Moron!”

Give me a break.

Aeon – are you monitoring your other hormone levels? Are you monitoring things like serum nutrients, thyroid, and electrolytes?

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AndyN was right, he just wandered off into the world of mainstream bullshit after he made his point. AAS can absolutely exacerbate underlying mental conditions, just like many drugs, even ones as generally innocuous as adex.

For exmaple, I sometimes have mild social anxiety. Supra-physiological test has greatly improved this. However, the generally recommended dose of liquidex (0.5mg EOD) will sometimes make me so anxious that I don’t want to leave the house. That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t be taking an AI on cycle.

Test doesn’t make me the least bit aggressive, but 25mg of dianabol sure does.

These things are individual. Just my $0.02.

OP: I’m on the fence about who you should see if you want to talk to a professional. I would lean strongly towards a therapist, to be honest. I wouldn’t waste time with a mental health professional who wants to prescribe you drugs until you’ve tried to talk it out with someone, but that’s just my opinion based on a series of bad experiences with psychiatrists.

It might be worthwhile to see your doctor and get bloodwork like LHT suggested. If you are going to do it, you should probably do it now while you are actually symptomatic, I would think, even though your doctor will know you were using AAS.

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I work in mental health and would recommend you go see a psychiatrist (an actual doctor not a psychologist) just to have them evaluate any possible issues you might be having. I am not talking like talk therapy, but a psychiatric eval to rule out anything serious. I don’t know what your age is, but some mental diseases don’t tend to emerge until you get into you mid-20’s to mid-30’s. Better safe than sorry you know? Doesn’t sound like this is because you took something if you have had bouts of extreme paranoia before takeing said substance. You don’t have to mention the steroids, but let the doctor know that these issues have been occuring for some time. If your paranoia is because you had issues with something in the past, talk therapy is great. If it is because you might be developing a more serious disorder like schizophrenia, then you need to have medication as talk therapy does little for it. Other condtions like anxiety disorders are treated effecvily through talk therapy as well. Just realize that not all of them are if medication gets brought into the discussion.

Additionally, if you are confused about how to find a psych doctor, you can inform your primary care doctor of your issues and they should recommend a consult from a psychiatrist.

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Have you kept track of your diet prior to, and after your cycle?

I’m not trying to “lighten” the severity of your issue, but blood sugar levels have great influence on emotions.

I’m not a paranoid type of person, but in cases of low blood sugar coupled with relative dehydration, I feel rather emotionally shaky and view situations somewhat negatively. Especially during the wee hours if I awaken unexpectedly to dark thoughts.

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I must be weird – all I get on cycle at night (and day and all the time) are sex thoughts constantly, erections pop up out of no where and don’t go away, resulting in me sleeping with trashy, bad-for-me, women.

In fact, I think I’ll go see if I can find one, right now.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
I must be weird – all I get on cycle at night (and day and all the time) are sex thoughts constantly, erections pop up out of no where and don’t go away, resulting in me sleeping with trashy, bad-for-me, women.

In fact, I think I’ll go see if I can find one, right now.[/quote]

That is all I get from anything but tren lol… tren does affect my personality a little.

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[quote]Aeon wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
lol we’re all stupid, yet you come here to ask US about what is going on in YOUR head…I dont think any of us know you, you have had anxiety in the past, it happened again (to a greater degree while you are on steriods), but we are supposed to come up with a different answer? Some people post her just to increase their post count, it seems.

I may be one of them.[/quote]

I never said you’re all stupid, I came here because I know there are a lot of intelligent and knowledgeable members here. I said that the posters making a mockery of this thread are ignorant. Twisting my words doesn’t benefit anyone, everyone can see it written in front of them that I was specifically referring to some of the people in my thread. If I thought you were all stupid, then I’d have no reason to post here.

The reply from Bushidobadboy was exactly the sort of answer I was looking for. He gave me an explanation, first hand experience, and a possible solution. So I’m not sure what your problem is. If you don’t possess the knowledge to answer my question, then don’t make a negative post.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
There’s your partial answer. You have a predisposition towards night terrors (or whatever you want to call them). Unfortunately, supraphysiological doses of androgens will potantiate the nervous system, leading to shallower sleep, inability to fall asleep and early waking.

Some have it worse than others. I remeber my first cycle was bad in this respect. Tren cycles always ruin my sleep too.

So IMO, there’s your answer. A not uncommon collision between ‘natural tendancy’ and ‘performance enhancement’.

I would personally look into calming nootropics (bacopa, phosphatidylserine, inositol) to augment the sleep that you do get.

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Thank you, I’ll look into those nootropics that you suggested!
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Maybe someone REALLY WAS in your room.

They’ll get you if you’re not careful.

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[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
I must be weird – all I get on cycle at night (and day and all the time) are sex thoughts constantly, erections pop up out of no where and don’t go away, resulting in me sleeping with trashy, bad-for-me, women.

In fact, I think I’ll go see if I can find one, right now.[/quote]

That is all I get from anything but tren lol… tren does affect my personality a little.[/quote]

Tren is the gear of gods

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Steroids & Paranoia.

It depends on what kind of steroid (progesterone based (tren, anadrol) usually is anxiolytic (anti anxiety)). Testosterone based, well it depends on your genetic coding, if you have too much aromatase it can make you paranoid and manic, and also a lot of DHT can cause a tendency towards aggressive, domineering behavior, and OCD-type paranoia (where you analyze things other people are doing and relate it to something of your own) e.g my cellphone went missing and your the only one around there bitch ! Ha. But sometimes they are real instincts that are accurate it just depends.

Also if you are taking stimulants with the gear, you will intensify paranoia and / or create new feelings. If you have too much Copper in your blood (copper is a stimulant), you will be more susceptible just like the combination of caffeine and juice. If you feel the paranoia is illogical make sure you take zinc, magnesium, and some GABA supplements as the above guy mentioned.

As you go off the gear you will find it harder to keep the feelings in control and your mental focus will be out of whack. Just use common sense, you want a good damn PCT.

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[quote]live lift die wrote:
i do stupid shit in my sleep all the time dont worry bout it,ive killed my dog in my sleep,[/quote]

lol can we please get a explanation.

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[quote]amxgregory wrote:
Steroids & Paranoia.

It depends on what kind of steroid (progesterone based (tren, anadrol) usually is anxiolytic (anti anxiety)). Testosterone based, well it depends on your genetic coding, if you have too much aromatase it can make you paranoid and manic, and also a lot of DHT can cause a tendency towards aggressive, domineering behavior, and OCD-type paranoia (where you analyze things other people are doing and relate it to something of your own) e.g my cellphone went missing and your the only one around there bitch ! Ha. But sometimes they are real instincts that are accurate it just depends.

Also if you are taking stimulants with the gear, you will intensify paranoia and / or create new feelings. If you have too much Copper in your blood (copper is a stimulant), you will be more susceptible just like the combination of caffeine and juice. If you feel the paranoia is illogical make sure you take zinc, magnesium, and some GABA supplements as the above guy mentioned.

As you go off the gear you will find it harder to keep the feelings in control and your mental focus will be out of whack. Just use common sense, you want a good damn PCT.[/quote]

the thread’s a year old.

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Even so, nobody gave a satisfying answer really. The OP sounds as if he suffers from a parasomnia that seems to be independent of steroid use. There are treatments for it. Hopefully he went to see a sleep specialist before he hurt himself or someone else.

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[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I had a dream last night I was taking steroids with Jethro Tull. True story.[/quote]

Best post in this thread

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[quote]BUDs wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I had a dream last night I was taking steroids with Jethro Tull. True story.[/quote]

Best post in this thread[/quote]

I wasn’t kidding! That actually happened. Was pinning with Ian Anderson