Anybody can get laid. It’s all a matter of how much you are willing to spend to get it. You can go to the Chicken Ranch in Nevada and pay like 500 for a night. Or you could use a dating app. Either way, your still going to spend time and money.
Gas to get to dates costs money, And then the date itself.
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That is true generally. But I’m sure some people here were lucky enough to have gone on a date that simply required gas or a walk to a woman’s home (the date being in the home) in one’s own town. 
I was fat when i married my wife, we both got in shape together and when heads turn now, we both know what we have waiting for us at home is far better than anything giving their attention to us simply because our bodies look better to them now.
Exactly. And unless your in the 1% of guys who can literally just call her and say “come over”. No food or expensive dates, your still paying. But that excludes maybe…96 or 97% of men? It’s kind of an unwritten code. You can either do the work and get rewarded or get nothing. 6 figures is just a poor mans version of being rich. You need to be 7 or 8 figures to really be rich.
That’s basically what it comes down to. Unfortunately it really is that simple.
Anyone here who had women screwing them with a 7-to-8-figure stipulation?
I had a four-month fling back in the day while unemployed (only unemployed time of my adult life thankfully). Our first and second dates: her house. I think I spent a grand total of 100 bucks in that timeframe on her; she had high income and usually didn’t want me pay for anything.
And I’m 5’10” (borderline manlet), was not and am not rich, and balding. And I’m a late Gen Xer (born in ‘79), not a boomer. So although conditions have become even more hypergamous since the late aughts, I highly doubt some guy needs to be a 4%er just to simply have sex with minimal investment.
In some cases, if a woman is turned on by a man and has no compunctions stopping her from giving it up quickly, the man will have to do little to nothing to get it, even without being a 4%er. Of course that’s just my take, and including my own experience
Are you a Rich Cooper subscriber?
Why are we going into what’s rich out of nowhere? I mean that’s fine, but it seemed to just pop up.
I’m not so sure “they don’t like you for you at that point.”
Think about it. When you were skinny, weak and pale that told people something about you, your lifestyle, your drive to succeed and better yourself. You were probably shy as well and lacked self confidence. The message wasn’t attractive.
Now they see a person who works hard at his goals, takes good care of himself, and has enough self confidence to be an asset in any relationship. Your new physique communicates a lot about who you really are. Just as the physique you had before you lifted your first dumbbell gold people about who that guy was.
I like the Arnold that is built and talks about succeeding through “reps, reps, reps.” Some other Arnold who never had that drive and determination, no matter how wonderful he perceives himself on the inside, isn’t really someone I’d want to hang with.
Women look for equals. Equal drive, equal determination, equal intelligence. The new you says, “yes, I’m an equal.” The old you didn’t.
Don’t throw away opportunities to meet some great women because of your own past and hurts.
Meh. When your in high school or college, especially back in the day, that was probably much easier because of proximity and no dating apps or social media. So yeah, it would’ve been more common. Certainly not now.
I am a subscriber. The thing is, he’s not wrong. He’s not lying. What he says is 100% fact and he’s not BS’ing or lying to people and I appreciate that honesty.
I was 29 to 30.
This is a bold statement when put in the scope of a youtube personality.
That would ruin it for me. I’d be thinking she would rather be with someone else, but sees sex with me as directly transactional. This guy is going to take me out to expensive places, buy me nice gifts, etc… At least with a hooker, she is honest about it.
I think a lot of guys desire money so they can have these opportunities with women. Maybe I am an odd ball in that I care what the woman thinks of me as a person?
I reject this as another 5’10" dude haha.
Just because someone is fat, skinny, or pale, doesn’t mean they can’t be determined and work hard in other areas. People just can’t see that. Which is the difference.
Ok, he might not be right about everything but a lot of what he says is clearly observable in the real world so he’s a good guide for people imo.
I didn’t say it 100% fully defined that person’s life. But everything we present to the world sends a message about us, like it or not. Pale? You probably don’t spend a lot of time at the beach or engages in outdoor activities, right? Weak? You might not be healthy enough to engage in activities that require strength and athleticism, right? Fat? You probably don’t put much emphasis on eating a nutritious diet, for whatever reason, right?
A woman who loves athletic activities, loves being outdoors, being physical, who watches what she eats carefully, is dedicated to her appearance, etc., is likely attracted to men who she sees have common interests. It’s not shallowness. At least not most of the time.
We tell people about us by our physique, our clothes, our hair style, our body language. That people, women, judge by these signals isn’t unfair. It’s how it is.
What something is (clearly observable) and what something means (entirely subjective) are often two completely different things.
Bullshit artists are great at convincing people who already want to believe something that what one sees is what they say it means.
Like this:
What country do men and women not use smart phones innm nowadays?
I can only think of the most impoverished countries… and at that, the most oppressive, impoverished countries.
Smart phones exist even witnin the slums of india etc.
The avg height of an American man is 5’9 (no joke… you can look this up)
The established definition of manlet is 5’6 or below.
I’m tRiGgErEd! If 5’10 is manlet territory then I’ve been afflicted by dwarfism! Aaaaa
5’10" is indeed slightly above average in the US. An actual 5’10" man will often be perceived by women IRL to be about 6’ because they’ve been fibbed to in the past haha.
What was your poison prior to EDS ruining your life? Prior to my diagnosis it was boxing, muay thai, seven years of full comtact karate and a bit of freestyle wrestling
I’ve been told not to go back if I don’t want to wind up crippled/with joint replacements at a very young age. Though I’ve been informed this may be the case regardless.
Considering I already have degenerative OA in my hips, left shoulder and potentially left knee and right hand… I’ll try go back albeit bery conservatively and on my own terms provided I can get strong again.
EDS is unfortunately degenerative. There are a number of individuals on my moms side who have died from spontaneous anyerism or arterial rupture, so I’m going to seek out genetic testing to ensure I don’t have vEDS… because if I have vEDS I’ll be dead in 10-20 years. Thankfully my presentation doesn’t alogn with vEDS… but better safe than sorry.
Just about form of EDS can have fatal consequences… but vEDS is particuarly bad. @startingagain do you have stretchy skin?
Knock on wood… i’ve never had arterial rupture, colon perforation etc. hEDS is bad enough given that it is degenerative and can cause cardiac arrhythmia, spontaneous coronary artery dissection, prolapses, charai malformations/pathopogical craniocervical instability that can lead to paralysis (odds of developing charai malformation are 20-30%) .
If I’m going to wind up in a world of pain (already the case) irregardlees of what I do (caveat being will I wind up like this at 50 or 35 etc)… might as well have fun now as the future is uncertain.
Statistically, 40% with hEDS wind up on disability… one study looking at women with the disease found that 60% had suicidal tendancies and 30% had actually tried to commit suicide… pain being the biggest influencing variable.
Given how bad things are now… I have no interest in seeing old age. Nor do I ever wish to have a child given that there is a 50% chance id pass this disease onto my child. Not that I’m capable of having kids to begin with (fertility issues). Turns out 30-40% of men witj EDS have pituitaey insufficieny and hence… hypogonadism is common.
Such a crushing blow. I used to live out a hedonistic lifestyle as I was young, immature and just wanted to have a good time… all the time…
Now that my future is so uncertain… I mignt as well revert back to my old ways as my duration of time for which I’m actually capable of having fun with is potentially limited. Need to make the best of what time I habe left before I’m confined to a wheelchair or mobility scooter.
My hedonism won’t hurt anybody aside from… myself…
Finding a decent woman who would be ok settling down with someone who is infertile, someone whose body is actually falling apart due to a genetic, degenerative disease, someone who will require more and more care with age… monumentally difficult task unless I voluntarily withold the truth which I think is unethical.
Still continuing with pursuing academia… but how long I’ll be capable of work/strenuous study… who knows
Especially given how pain management is frowned upon here… if I can’t get help due to extremely strict guidelines set in Aus (way stricter than CDC guidelines in US)… I may have to resort to going to a methadone clinic.
Many Aussies with EDS have been forced into going to these clinics which is fucking absurd. Ridiculous to think I’d have to go down to a methadone clinic… or a clinic that provides opiate substitution therapy to heroin addicts JUST to live a life where pain from constant sublaxations, tweaked joints, neuropathic pain from nerve damage etc doesn’t run me into the ground… because chronic pain patients here are punished and treated like shit
I’ve had pharmacists refuse to fill my scripts even when handing in a script for the lowest possible dose for X brand of painkiller… but filling a script for 100 tablets of amphetaminrs with 6 repeats in a country that has the highest rate of methanphetaminr use in the developed world is fine…
My moms friend (doctor) was audited and had a horrific time going through court, answering to the medical board because he was CAUTUOUSLY prescribing opiates to those with intractible, severe pain. Patients who were using as a last resort because nothing else helped.
That’s how strict we are… and at that, for every 20 tablets… you need to go back for another refill (to the doctor, not the pharmacy).
But if you are an addict… can get months worth at a time. If you are an addict it’s all “you poor thing! Here’s a metric fuck ton of painkillers!”
Now there’s even more push to make methadone, buprenorphine etc even easier to access if you are an addict.
Don’t get me wrong. Opiate substituion therapy in addicts dramatically reduces rates of relapse, reduces mortality etc. But our government has decided to go after patients with degenerative diseases, non malignant cancer paiin etc just like America did for a while… BUT America is changing its tune after realising how punishing the wrong demographic here actually led to MORE addiction, spike in suicides etc…
Australia aa per usual is doubling down via the usual Aussie knee jerk nanny state reaction.
So backwoods… really pisses me off…
