Did Israel Have a Choice?

[quote]lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.
[/quote]

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?

[quote]JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?[/quote]

Not in the least bit.

If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.

as an israeli i can see some really good responses here.

but there are some uneducated people here such as lixy, dont get me wrong it ur right to think whatever u want but u cannot argue with the fact that hamas is a terrorist org that targets innocent civilians.
and in my opinion the israeli response was justified even tho some of my friends were out there i gaza risking their life’s. im just happy that they are safe. they’ve been telling me some really good stories about some of the hamas guerrilla tactics and how they placed bombs within a house with the family still in there.

so overall i think that the israeli response was good and for next time could be a bit more ruthless as hamas only wants to kill people like me and u.

[quote]lixy wrote:
If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.[/quote]

Nice to know you’d vote for terrorists.

So much for your “nobody voted for Bin Laden” defense while ripping on our great country because we fought for and gained the right to vote.

Maybe if the Palestinians spent as much time forming a country rather than firing rockets into Israel they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in today.

Hamas can’t rule, they can only make the lives of the Palesinians miserable by launching rockets and suicide bombers so that the cycle of violence can never end.

And this is how they stay in power.

Votes have little to do with it.

[quote]lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?

Not in the least bit.

If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.[/quote]

Kill yourself.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.

Nice to know you’d vote for terrorists.

So much for your “nobody voted for Bin Laden” defense while ripping on our great country because we fought for and gained the right to vote.

Maybe if the Palestinians spent as much time forming a country rather than firing rockets into Israel they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in today.

Hamas can’t rule, they can only make the lives of the Palesinians miserable by launching rockets and suicide bombers so that the cycle of violence can never end.

And this is how they stay in power.

Votes have little to do with it.
[/quote]

Hamas would shit themselves if there was ever peace. They’d actually have to govern and try and build a country. Instead of just destroying one and exterminating a people.

[quote]lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?

Not in the least bit.

If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.[/quote]

They are committed to death and violence and a course of action that will NEVER ever ever result in the return a single acre of land.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?

Not in the least bit.

If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.

They are committed to death and violence and a course of action that will NEVER ever ever result in the return a single acre of land. [/quote]

Where did I hear that before. Ah, yes…Hezballah.

Everytime Israel gives back land or makes peace with the Palestinians, they have been betrayed.

So, yes, Hezbollah stabbed Israel in the back as did Hamas.

[quote]lixy wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?

Not in the least bit.

If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.

They are committed to death and violence and a course of action that will NEVER ever ever result in the return a single acre of land.

Where did I hear that before. Ah, yes…Hezballah.[/quote]

So what’s the solution?

[quote]JamFly wrote:
So what’s the solution?[/quote]

There is none. Give back land? Militants move their launchers up. Don’t give land back? Militants settle for launching from further back. One side would have to win the whole thing.

[quote]JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:
lixy wrote:
JamFly wrote:

The point being what exactly?

I support the Palestinians’ right to resist the occupation.

You get the point but choose to ignore it’s significance.

You still didn’t answer the question about Hamas, do you support them?

Not in the least bit.

If I were Palestinian, I’d definitely vote for them though. Fully knowing they represent everything I would oppose in a societal project. They are, at least, challenging the status quo.

They are committed to death and violence and a course of action that will NEVER ever ever result in the return a single acre of land.

Where did I hear that before. Ah, yes…Hezballah.

So what’s the solution?[/quote]

Practically none!

Zionists will never agree to give back what they fought and sacrificed so much to get. The state of Israel will become ever more discriminative towards its Arab citizens. Palestinians will never agree to the scrapes (Look at the maps if you disagree with the term!) they are offered by Israel. They will continue to do the only thing they can to resist (i.e: Use katyushas, suicide bombings and stones). The Israeli political scene will radicalize even further, and so will the Palestinian’s.

If there’s a solution, it’s in the hands of the people handing out so-called aid to both sides. But the geopolitical/ideological stakes are too high for any real change to happen.

Not that the two sides are suffering equally. It’s not even close.