[quote]jackzepplin wrote:
I’m not sure why I’m even acknowledging this crap.
The fact is, he’s ten years older. Less testosterone and more stress may be part of his speech pattern problems.
What some folks in this forum don’t seem to realize, is that it doesn’t really matter what comes out of a person’s mouth. What matters is the action taken.
Our President has taken the appropriate action to save this country from a long recession that began during the Democrats watch, he was a firm leader when we suffered the most tragic event since the Civil War, and he has taken the fight of terrorism to the terrorists (rather than let them bring it here). The list goes on, but I know that the liberal pro-kerry folks on this forum will type with their blinders on to discount every good deed and confuse the rest of our forum members.
Take care folks.[/quote]
I’m not going to get involved in the economic discussion. I think everyone is pretty much talking out there ass on the economics thing.
However, on terrorism, you are dead wrong. Bush did not, in fact, take the fight to the terrorists. The terrorists are in Saudi Arabia (funding/intel), Pakistan (funding/intelligence/training), Iran (actual weapons of mass destruction/funding/training/intel) and Syria (actual WMDs/funding/training). We basically kissed the Saudi’s asses, gave Pakistan a raise and a pat on the back, and pretty much have ignored Syria (until they started shelling our troops), and have our heads firmly up our asses regard Iran (the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism). Nevermind the whole business of letting Bin Laden go and not actually putting much of an effort into going after him. Don’t give me any crap about the Taliban, which, you may have noticed, has more or less integrated itself into the “legitimate” Afghanistan government. So much for teaching them a lesson. No, we haven’t done crap about terrorism actually–except pissed off more Arabs and given them a lot of combat training against us in Iraq. I mean we could have rolled the Saudi princes in about a day, seized their assests, put an end to all their funding (so bye bye Chechens for instance), and taken over their oil infrastructure, told OPEC to take a flying fuck into the Gulf, and we’d have fifty cent a gallon gas right now. We could have spent the manpower we are using in Iraq to take on Iran (the real threat) and probably enlisted Saddam to help again (and hence reduce the strain on our troops). Syria pretty much buckles once Tehran falls. Al Qaeda buckles once Saudi falls. At that point, who gives a fuck about Afghanistan? You tell Pakistan to turn over its intelligence people who were helping Al Qaeda, turn over its nukes, or you arm India to the teeth and green light them to do what needs to be done. And while he was at it, Bush could have and should have given Sharon the green light to put a bullet in Arafat’s head, clean out Gaza and the West Bank and send anyone who has any complaints about it into the Sinai or over the border into Jordan. There you go, case closed.
But Bush didn’t do any of that did he? He spent a lot of money creating the TSA, which has not made airports or flying any more secure, but a lot more expensive and a pain in the ass. Also, the TSA has become the most corrupt government agency according the GAO. Bush hasn’t secured borders. Hence, we’ve got a band of rogue Chechens running around right now waiting to kill our school kids. Bush has thrown a bunch of random Muslims into Gitmo, but hasn’t actually done much to crack down on funding of terrorist cells domestically (yeah, they closed one network that they’ve known about for 5 years last week, great job guys). Oh yeah, and, where the fuck is Bin Laden? Why the fuck isn’t his head on a goddamn stake on the White House lawn?
That bitch cannot be that hard to find with $20 million on his head. Ummm, and why are the Saudi’s still funding terrorists and jacking our goddamn oil prices? And why is Iran being allowed to build nukes and have long range missiles? Not to mention Pakistan. Yeah, we all sleep a lot better at night knowing there are Chechens on the loose in the US and their buddies in Iran or Pakistan will happily give them material to make a dirty bomb. Yay for Bush!
So seriously, what has Bush done to actually combat terrorism? See Saddam, besides funding Palestinians (which, honestly is reason enough to bomb him I’ll grant), didn’t really have jack or shit to do with Al Qaeda. And the Taliban, besides being gangsta opium growing warlords didn’t really have anything to do with Al Qaeda other than basically taking protection money from them to allow them to operate on Taliban (and would have gladly handed him over for more money than Bin Laden was paying them). So we got rid of a guy who not even a regional threat anymore (pretty much Iran, Syria, Israel, or the Saudis could have kicked his ass if he acted up), and sort of bombed a bunch of shit in Afghanistan and then decided that maybe some nice Taliban guys might be ok to be in the government. And, well, outside of Kabul it is just fine if everyone wants to be all gangsta.
Is the economy better or worse? Hell if I know. Is Bush really a moron, a stroke victim, or just plain stressed out? Doesn’t really matter, but he and Kerry both look pretty stupid up there. Has Bush actually done anything about terrorism? Nada. So if you’re going to spout nonsense like that, I want to see the Saudi princes responsible for 9/11 lined up before a firing squad before I believe you.
