my friend is 17 and wants to do a course of 50mg a day on d-bol and 1 shot of 200mgs/ml of cypionate every other day. i have tried to tell him about side affects but he wont listen. can you please explain the importance of using an anti-e and explain the side affects that can occur and try and warn him off it due to his age.
At 17 your friend is no where near ready to start using AAS. Perhaps in another decade he could be a good candidate. He is planning on taking 700mg/week test and 350mg/week dbol for a first cycle. He has no idea on proper AI use and PCT. He is asking for permanent damage to his body. I don’t feel like helping to add structure to this cycle as it may be perceived as encouragement.
I will not encourage this cycle either, at 17 his endocrine system is still developing and his bones are possible not totally closed. He is prime candidate for many of the worst side effects of steroids at this point…
That is with a basic choice of AAS, this kid wants to use over 1 gram of AAS at 17, for his first cyclem, with no AI!! That is reckless, stupid, dangerous and im-mature.
Print this off and give it to him.
Wait till you have 3-5 years serious training under your belt, you are in decent shape, you should be 22+ ideally, before even “considering” AAS.
Run along now and play.
Joe
read the newbie cycle planning thread. it goes over who should not do gear in the first post.
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella 
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
EE, where you from? I in North matey boy.
Joe
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
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nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
EE, where you from? I in North matey boy.
Joe[/quote]
West Mids me ol mucka
[quote]nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
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Just wondering, I think we should start having a game of footie every sat.
Tell you what ill do you a few pages of why that cycle is bad and why its bad at that age and possibility of gyno etc. Ill email it to you on a word doc. so you can print it and show him, I doubt he will listen though, whoever is getting him on the gear in the first place will probably just reject it.
Mad fight up the road aminute ago, some kid kicked the crap out of a young girl then got legged and battered by 4 geezers! I bet you know saome of the people involved
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
Just wondering, I think we should start having a game of footie every sat.
Tell you what ill do you a few pages of why that cycle is bad and why its bad at that age and possibility of gyno etc. Ill email it to you on a word doc. so you can print it and show him, I doubt he will listen though, whoever is getting him on the gear in the first place will probably just reject it.
Mad fight up the road aminute ago, some kid kicked the crap out of a young girl then got legged and battered by 4 geezers! I bet you know saome of the people involved
[/quote]some of the people in 2days society lol must be a rough area where you live haha lol yh tht footy game sounds good
[quote]nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
Just wondering, I think we should start having a game of footie every sat.
Tell you what ill do you a few pages of why that cycle is bad and why its bad at that age and possibility of gyno etc. Ill email it to you on a word doc. so you can print it and show him, I doubt he will listen though, whoever is getting him on the gear in the first place will probably just reject it.
Mad fight up the road aminute ago, some kid kicked the crap out of a young girl then got legged and battered by 4 geezers! I bet you know saome of the people involved
some of the people in 2days society lol must be a rough area where you live haha lol yh tht footy game sounds good
[/quote]just printed that info off for him and made him sit down and read it. he has took it on bored and decided not to go on that cycle so a big thanks to you cheers. Now thou he wondered if half a ml every 2 days would be ok???
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
Just wondering, I think we should start having a game of footie every sat.
Tell you what ill do you a few pages of why that cycle is bad and why its bad at that age and possibility of gyno etc. Ill email it to you on a word doc. so you can print it and show him, I doubt he will listen though, whoever is getting him on the gear in the first place will probably just reject it.
Mad fight up the road aminute ago, some kid kicked the crap out of a young girl then got legged and battered by 4 geezers! I bet you know saome of the people involved
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would u mind emailing me that aswell mate??
im actually havin exactly the same problem, 17 year old trainign partner is determined to go on roids, he already has done one course and im tryna talk him out of doin another
[quote]nath69na wrote:
nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
Just wondering, I think we should start having a game of footie every sat.
Tell you what ill do you a few pages of why that cycle is bad and why its bad at that age and possibility of gyno etc. Ill email it to you on a word doc. so you can print it and show him, I doubt he will listen though, whoever is getting him on the gear in the first place will probably just reject it.
Mad fight up the road aminute ago, some kid kicked the crap out of a young girl then got legged and battered by 4 geezers! I bet you know saome of the people involved
some of the people in 2days society lol must be a rough area where you live haha lol yh tht footy game sounds good
just printed that info off for him and made him sit down and read it. he has took it on bored and decided not to go on that cycle so a big thanks to you cheers. Now thou he wondered if half a ml every 2 days would be ok???
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I think he has missed the point big time, I simply showed him that his injecting E7D is very bad and how his levels are messed up over a week, I should not have showed him how levels are better stabalised if injected EOD, I was not suggesting he change his injection frequency, it was all part of the overall 3 pages of DO NOT DO AAS AT YOUR AGE message.
We tried to help him this time round and he will not listen.
Let him finish this course and after a couple of weeks when his test levels crash he will feel like shit and be desperate to listen to any advice.
I feel kind of conflicted about these scenarios.
As a parent and a rational adult (for the most part anyway), I would say that a 17 year old has no business rewiring his endocrine system merely to satisfy a short-sighted lust for quick results. I say this on general principal- I just feel like it is a bad idea. That’s the advise I would actually give.
Now- here’s what I have actually observed. Guys that I train with that went on when they were 16 or 18 years old got big and strong as fuck. They had cycles where they did everything wrong and still packed on 30 lbs of permanent pork. I can only wish I had the kinds of cyles these kids have.
I know a guy who did gear and started too early, he also had no clue about what he was doing and was basically a steroid abusing monster.
Even today some of the ideas he has demostrate he has no basic idea of how AAS works, he has never used PCT or anti E.
But he is monsterously huge and strong as fook.
But he has some serious health issues too, I have mentioned in the past my friend whose sperm looks like ragu.
If I had access to gear when I was 15 I would have done it regardless of advice from any strangers, so I do have empathy for these guys but it is very frustrating all the same.
[quote]flashgordon wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
nath69na wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Dude bring him round my house anytime I’ll have a chat with him, I will tell him the stories of Warren’s sperm looking like ragu sauce and having one leg twice the size of the other due to steroid missuse, if this don’t help nothing will
Take it easy fella
P.S. What you doing on saturdays now the season is over?
nothing got 1 game left this weekend then nothing y
Just wondering, I think we should start having a game of footie every sat.
Tell you what ill do you a few pages of why that cycle is bad and why its bad at that age and possibility of gyno etc. Ill email it to you on a word doc. so you can print it and show him, I doubt he will listen though, whoever is getting him on the gear in the first place will probably just reject it.
Mad fight up the road aminute ago, some kid kicked the crap out of a young girl then got legged and battered by 4 geezers! I bet you know saome of the people involved
would u mind emailing me that aswell mate??
im actually havin exactly the same problem, 17 year old trainign partner is determined to go on roids, he already has done one course and im tryna talk him out of doin another
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what course did he do??