Does vitamin C really get absorbed and make a difference this quickly? With all the talk of diabetes/insulin it’s hard for me to understand how it’s vitamin C that’s the issue when the same drink probably has tons of sugar in it which obvious does make a difference quickly. Seems like it could be doing something to your blood sugar to me moreso than vitamin c levels but I don’t know a lot about diabetes thankfully. Hopefully you get it figured out.
What is your morning fasted BG? Are you on any insulin?
What were the results of this?
It sounds like the only change you’ve made in the seven weeks since your last post is switching from bagels to english muffins. That’s like an alcoholic switching from whiskey to wine. It’s the teeniest tiniest baby step you could’ve taken in the right direction.
Still no nuts or beans?
Um… that’s not how the body works. I’d’ve seen a urologist about this weeks ago.
What, exactly, does this mean?
Oh, for fuck’s sake.
Diabetics. Do. Not. Get. To. Drink. Orange. Juice.
And diet and exercise? You meant you’re going to address diet and exercise by finding qualified experts who can help guide you on those fronts because slapping medication on top of a shaky foundation will still be a short-term band-aid solution?
Have you been continuing any exercise? Has your weight changed at all?
You’re big on asking guys in the TRT forum for their labs with ranges and stuff, because the details will inform the advice received. Same here, man. Like others have noticed, you’re avoiding any details about what you’re actually doing.
What, exactly, did you eat yesterday? When was your last exercise session and what did you do during it?
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I’m pretty sure he’s convinced he has scurvy?
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The fact that and otherwise seemingly intelligent person, with any medical knowledge whatsoever, was eating bagels as a regular thing when they have diabetes is a little mind blowing.
That it even needs to be said 
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Agreed with this. As a diabetic, I cannot fathom drinking orange juice. It has more sugar than many sodas (which I won’t be drinking either - at least not the “regular” kind).
@systemlord
If you really want to control your diabetes, you have to get the diet on point. This is the only way you will truly be able to see what level of insulin resistance you have/ medicine you may need.
Cut out complex carbs completely. No bread, rice, pasta, cereal, or startchy vegetables (potatoes, yams, etc…).
I know breakfast is a hard meal to cut the flour based foods out of, but it can be done without too much effort. I eat either cottage cheese or plain whole milk greek yogurt with a few chunks of frozen fruit in it most days. Also, make hard boiled eggs in advance for the week (extremely easy if you have an insta-pot). It takes no more than 15 minutes to make 12+ eggs you can throw in for breakfast, lunch, or whenever you need a filling snack.
Additionally, I wouldn’t even worry about test levels until you get the diet locked down and some exercise in. Control the easy stuff first and see how that improves things. Only then add on more extreme medicinal therapies.
Edit: I don’t think you understand how much better you will feel just getting the carb counts under control and actively managing glucose levels. I know for a fact that if I start off the day with a high carb breakfast my mood/energy/pain levels will be hire than if I eat my normal low carb breakfast (for reference, my breakfast is typically less than 20g carbs).
Not to pile on, but seriously? Your doctor, unless you’ve undergone a search for someone as wacky as yourself, KNOWS what bagels and cereal will do to your glucose.
Why do you spend so much of your time advising others when you sound on death’s doorstep yourself? It’s become something of a fascination for me to follow your posts detailing for others the incompetence of doctors (relative to your own vast store of medical information) then read that you can no longer stand on your damaged feet or urinate, or whatever is the dire symptom du jour.
Why not spend the time you have researching diabetic diets, or healthy diets and exercise in general? I’m not diabetic but certainly know that OJ is both high in sugar and calories. Seems like there are photo charts on my doctor’s walls about the sugar in various drinks.
This:
Maybe stop? Just…stop? And do what your incompetent doctor tells you, because frankly it doesn’t sound like anyone is going to be less competent in managing your health than you have been.
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This thread is so ridiculous it’s almost troll-like
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Almost 
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Scurvy IS diabetes, and only incompetent old fashioned doctors want you to believe otherwise.
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Hey Anna! Looks like we’ve found someone even better at ignoring good advice than you 
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I thought I was the master 
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Or doctors clearly in the pocketbooks of “Big Pharma” trying to sell you drugs.
All you need is some OJ. A glass a day keeps the doctor away.
Unless you have diabetes.
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I have diabetes, maybe I could save some money and try the OJ/english muffin combo (with jelly of course) instead of my expensive medicines…
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I am curious to know what your thyroid numbers look like when all this is going?
I wanted to update my situation, in 2019 April I found multiple deficiencies and it was just down to a lack of essential vitamins (vitamin C) that caused all the problems, then I stopped TRT (big mistake) and months later my A1C started increasing (6.6-8.9) and diabetes worsened and this became my new problem.
Now every time I attempt to restart TRT, when I eat, my stomach/GI goes haywire and I get a lot of belching and gas, stomach burns on the inside and turns red on the outside as well as legs and feet. These episodes triggers urinary retention (glucose 240) and I can no longer sense an urge to urinate if I eat food, no problems when not eating.
So skipping meals or eating smaller meals has helped reduce these symptoms by 70%. It would also seem like my vitamin C intake needs to be increased 5 days after starting TRT because I encountered a deficiency again, 45mg off TRT is fine, on TRT requirements are higher.
I have been on TRT for a week and these symptoms are not as bad, my endo will nonetheless be treating the diabetes in 10 days to give me a better chance. He will first try medicine and if it gives me sides, then insulin therapy will be next. My A1C and glucose never really hinted at the true levels of insulin resistance.
My endo stated my insulin resistance is very high and my glucose levels are misleading as to the true extent of resistance. C-peptides are high and insulin is plentiful, I just can’t use it.
My diet is spot on and cut out processed foods, eating only whole foods. I’m also exercising three times a week, plan to increase to 4-5 day when the energy permits.
I’m sure someone is going to ask. What does this include, exactly? What’s a normal day/week look like?
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Less “updates” and more “answering absolutely any of the direct questions that people have asked” would be preferred.
As of your last post five days ago, neither of these were actually happening.
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