One time I worked for a company who’s owner didn’t control cost like he could have, another company started up 15 years before and had built up enough business that my company had to shut down because it wasn’t competitive against the other company who did control cost very well.
So, my company shut down and I was let go, must have been Obama’s fault for not making people who traded business to the other company to stop and come back and buy a more expensive product from my company, just because we were here first. It’s clearly unfair, because really I shouldn’t have lost my job because you know that’s my job, it’s like property or something…did I do it right?
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://articles.mcall.com/1984-09-20/news/2426739_1_steel-industry-domestic-steel-import
These articles I post are from that time period , they explain how Reagan’s policies resulted in what we have in every Old Steel Town today. Chicago ,Flint, Youngstown the list cover hundreds of towns and cities.
It is revisionist history, articles written several decades after Reagan’s implementation of FAILED POLICY on the Steel Industry trying to convince a younger generation that it was not bad policy that ruined an industry and left towns and cities in ruin .
Regan would have had to change his political philosophies . It would have probably taken an approach like Carter or Obama to bail out the industry .
We may never recover from Reagan’s legacy
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My wife’s cousin lived outside of Pittsburgh at that time and her husband was a crane operator for one of the biggest steel mills. In 1985, the mills put everyone’s job up for bid. Anyone working there (that wanted to keep working…) could bid on anybody’s job. Some long established mills closed down, the whole industry was in a shambles. The cousin’s husband wound up out of a job after working there 30 years.
Bob[/quote]
I was a crane operator in Copperweld Steel CO
These are pretty funny:
~50% functional illiteracy, fuck…
[quote]Hobotrader wrote:
These are pretty funny:
~50% functional illiteracy, fuck…[/quote]
I call it a crying shame
Hmmm… I thought tax cuts were supposed to create jobs? Michigan has the most of the tax sweetheart deals but Detroit is going bankrupt.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Hmmm… I thought tax cuts were supposed to create jobs? Michigan has the most of the tax sweetheart deals but Detroit is going bankrupt.
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Unions = the parasite that outgrew it’s host.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Hmmm… I thought tax cuts were supposed to create jobs? Michigan has the most of the tax sweetheart deals but Detroit is going bankrupt.
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Unions = the parasite that outgrew it’s host. [/quote]
Unions = better pay and better working conditions
Lol. Subsidies =/= tax breaks.
Detroit has a mid-high corporate income tax rates, sales tax, &c.
Michigan has a mid-high corporate income tax rate, sales tax, &c.
Then you have to deal with all the social programs/unions in Detroit. Detroit has been run by Democrats unopposed for 50 years, every socialist program you can think of has been tried there and found lacking and has eventually bankrupted Detroit.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Lol. Subsidies =/= tax breaks.
Detroit has a mid-high corporate income tax rates, sales tax, &c.
Michigan has a mid-high corporate income tax rate, sales tax, &c.
Then you have to deal with all the social programs/unions in Detroit. Detroit has been run by Democrats unopposed for 50 years, every socialist program you can think of has been tried there and found lacking and has eventually bankrupted Detroit.[/quote]
But, but, but the Realnewz.omg said it was not their fault. It has to be the Republicans and those awful Teabaggers.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Lol. Subsidies =/= tax breaks.
Detroit has a mid-high corporate income tax rates, sales tax, &c.
Michigan has a mid-high corporate income tax rate, sales tax, &c.
Then you have to deal with all the social programs/unions in Detroit. Detroit has been run by Democrats unopposed for 50 years, every socialist program you can think of has been tried there and found lacking and has eventually bankrupted Detroit.[/quote]
How can social programs be paid for when corporations are given such huge tax breaks?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Lol. Subsidies =/= tax breaks.
Detroit has a mid-high corporate income tax rates, sales tax, &c.
Michigan has a mid-high corporate income tax rate, sales tax, &c.
Then you have to deal with all the social programs/unions in Detroit. Detroit has been run by Democrats unopposed for 50 years, every socialist program you can think of has been tried there and found lacking and has eventually bankrupted Detroit.[/quote]
I agree that it is easier on Companies if they do not have to pay their workers a fair wage
Making $72 an hour to screw a light bulb in a car is a fair wage?
$20 to $30 an hour is what Middle class is made of . The wealthy have4 convince the worker that they are not entitled to be middle class
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
$20 to $30 an hour is what Middle class is made of . The wealthy have4 convince the worker that they are not entitled to be middle class [/quote]
I have a Master’s degree and I only make $24 an hour. Most of the people you are talking about do not have a high school diploma. 50% of Detroit is illiterate.
You are saying they are entitled to a job paying them $20-30 an hour?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
$20 to $30 an hour is what Middle class is made of . The wealthy have4 convince the worker that they are not entitled to be middle class [/quote]
I make $18.75 an hour working for a school district and am putting my wife through nursing school. Maybe the poor are actually really poor managers of their money, that’s why they stay poor. This seems to be the case as I see people who work 2 minimum wage jobs but somehow an Iphone and plan, the most expensive DirecTV package, or/and a brand new car are high priority expenses. These same people also decide to start having children while they have no means to pay for them and you expect me to believe that its the mean ol rich people holding them back?? Gimmi a break.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Hmmm… I thought tax cuts were supposed to create jobs? Michigan has the most of the tax sweetheart deals but Detroit is going bankrupt.
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Unions = the parasite that outgrew it’s host. [/quote]
Unions = better pay and better working conditions [/quote]
Not for those that lost their jobs.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Lol. Subsidies =/= tax breaks.
Detroit has a mid-high corporate income tax rates, sales tax, &c.
Michigan has a mid-high corporate income tax rate, sales tax, &c.
Then you have to deal with all the social programs/unions in Detroit. Detroit has been run by Democrats unopposed for 50 years, every socialist program you can think of has been tried there and found lacking and has eventually bankrupted Detroit.[/quote]
How can social programs be paid for when corporations are given such huge tax breaks?[/quote]
The study is not about tax breaks…the study is about subsidies!
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
$20 to $30 an hour is what Middle class is made of . The wealthy have4 convince the worker that they are not entitled to be middle class [/quote]
Lol…wat?
