Designing Blasts Based on Cruise Dose

[lordgains]

@mnben87

Flirty also ups attraction for me at least. I guess it is “personality”.

I have thought about this a few days ago. Why are men attracted or more attentive when a girl has the image of being easy? I think it’s the perceived higher chance one can get some without rejection. Lower fear, higher chance to score means more attracted. But I wouldn’t say it’s higher attraction per se.

@mnben87

men value personality as much as women, despite many people saying men value looks a lot more than women (which I also think is bullshit).

The difference lies I think in what is important first. Men obviously go for looks first and therefore women without looks fall under the radar. Women don’t go for looks first, (looks may get you a foot in the door) but for personality, and not really personality, but (verbal) signs of dominance. For example, being witty, being aloof, being confident, withstanding social pressure. I would not call that personality. My personality is what I think about different topics, how I handle all kinds of situations, but that can’t be assessed by a woman in a few hours (the time it takes usually to get one in bed). That’s why I’d say both genders first look at their respective signs of survival/replication value. In the case if men, that’s youth, looks. For women it’s dominance and leadership.

For men, personality is immensely important, but not for sleeping with a girl. Ask yourself: if a 9 stands in front of you and has a shitty personality but is smoking, would you not bang her and then afterwards get rid of her? Personality for men is important for giving her a relationship, for pair bonding.

For women looks is completely secondary imo. It gets a foot in the door, especially being muscular is perceived as status. But, if you don’t have the verbal and behavior that attracts her to back it up, she’ll not even sleep with you if you look like the sexiest man alive.

That’s at least my opinion on the subject of looks vs personality. I think the whole looks vs personality question is misguided.

@mnben87

Depending on the flirt I use on another woman, my wife would probably slap me every time. Is that what you mean lol?

Haha good you know your wife. No, I actually meant if I’m saying something to a girl while flirting, a specific sentence and I use the exact same words, sound, intonation on another girl, she will react exactly the same. I think that’s the basis of comedians practicing their material in small clubs, actually. They perform the same topic 40 times in front of different people, and therefore can tweak it until it kills every single time. With women I have the experience that it is exactly like that. As I said, it then gets boring because I want to see who’s in front of me and not only run down my list of jokes/flirt lines. In the end I think it’s more about mindest than words anyways. I just find it peculiar that it was so predictable when I last was in the dating market.

Edit: sorry for the derail, this was the last post on this in this thread. Please don’t start a new topic out of this haha

[mnben87]

@lordgains

Please don’t start a new topic out of this haha

I will not. I think the people I am interested in their opinions have mostly weighed in on the actual topic. Not all, but I don’t think this derail will stop the others.

@lordgains

They perform the same topic 40 times in front of different people, and therefore can tweak it until it kills every single time. With women I have the experience that it is exactly like that.

I think women could do this to guys as well if we are being fair.

@lordgains

For women looks is completely secondary imo. It gets a foot in the door

As you said, you aren’t excluded from the possibility of a relationship. I think some guys are automatically excluded regardless of personality by a lot of women though. Women want both looks and personality for sex, men care about looks just for sex, and both for a relationship. Again just in general.

[lordgains]

@mnben87

I will not.

I was talking to Chris haha

@mnben87

I think women could do this to guys as well if we are being fair.

They do. But they also generalize all day “all men this, all men that”. I think generalizing is completely fair when it comes to this topic as it is nearly completely hindbrain.

@mnben87

I think some guys are automatically excluded regardless of personality by a lot of women though.

There’s a lot of ugly guys who get hotties but there aren’t a lot of high value men with ugly women.

[mnben87]

@lordgains

There’s a lot of ugly guys who get hotties

I don’t see this that often. I generally see couples where both individuals are pretty close to each other in my perception of their looks.

I think an explanation for differing looks is changing after the relationship. Maybe the guy gets fat and bald. Maybe the woman has a kid and doesn’t bounce back. I see about as many mismatched looks couples in both ways. That is just my experience though.

I will say, I may not be the best at judging male looks though haha. To me all the guys generally look unappealing, but I try to be objective. I think we can mostly agree that Chris Hemsworth looks better than Danny Devito.

[lordgains]

@mnben87

I think an explanation for differing looks is changing after the relationship. Maybe the guy gets fat and bald. Maybe the woman has a kid and doesn’t bounce back. I see about as many mismatched looks couples in both ways. That is just my experience though.

True. You see this especially in married millionaire men. They often have ugly wifes who were once hot when the guy was not high status.

I think the probability that every nba (and nfl) player is just good looking is very low. Still, all of them get really hot chicks. Shaq (relatively ugly I’d say, no offense, great player) for example is always with younger hotter girls (or was, I’m not up to date).
For men, looks is just secondary. It makes life easier, but nothing is lost if you weren’t lucky in that regard.