Deputies Hold Down Kid for H1N1 Shot

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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“He tried to run. I looked over and saw two sheriff’s deputies holding a kid down,” Gamble said. “Mom took off, she couldn’t take it. You had one nurse with the needle, two deputies holding him, one nurse is grabbing hands - because that’s what they want to do, to go after the needle. And that’s the last thing you want.”

Gamble said as soon as the nurse gave the boy his injection and told him he was done, he hopped up like nothing had happened.

“For the most part they go very easy. As far as the shots, every once in awhile you have to hold down one or two - but that’s why mom is there or dad is there,” Gamble said.

Will they hold YOU down for your ‘life-saving’ shot?

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For one of my boys to get his immunizations when he was younger it took myself and two nurses to hold him down so he could get all the shots.

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The streets would run red if anyone tried to hold me down for shit I didn’t want.

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[quote]JLu wrote:
The streets would run red if anyone tried to hold me down for shit I didn’t want.[/quote]

This is obviously because you are an internet “tuff guy.”

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
JLu wrote:
The streets would run red if anyone tried to hold me down for shit I didn’t want.

This is obviously because you are an internet “tuff guy.”[/quote]

Obviously.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
JLu wrote:
The streets would run red if anyone tried to hold me down for shit I didn’t want.

This is obviously because you are an internet “tuff guy.”[/quote]

no, because he’s a bear-shark-o-pus.

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Me, my wife, my two daughters, my mother and father have gotten the shot we manufacture. And anyone can give me any of the conspiracy crap they want, I work on designing and validating the release tests, know everything that goes into the process and the what is in the final material inside and out for the vaccine we manufacture.

I work for sanofi pasteur, my family received the vaccine because I am considered business critical for vaccine production, so basically now you don’t have an excuse to call off at least for them having the flu.

But there are alot of employees here, that because the government is so involved with this, could not get the shot, because they are not business critical or do not fall in the CDC high risk categories, now tell me that is jacked, you helped develop it but can’t get it. All because the government doesn’t want to give the image that we are protecting our own.

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[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Me, my wife, my two daughters, my mother and father have gotten the shot we manufacture. And anyone can give me any of the conspiracy crap they want, I work on designing and validating the release tests, know everything that goes into the process and the what is in the final material inside and out for the vaccine we manufacture.

I work for sanofi pasteur, my family received the vaccine because I am considered business critical for vaccine production, so basically now you don’t have an excuse to call off at least for them having the flu.

But there are alot of employees here, that because the government is so involved with this, could not get the shot, because they are not business critical or do not fall in the CDC high risk categories, now tell me that is jacked, you helped develop it but can’t get it. All because the government doesn’t want to give the image that we are protecting our own. [/quote]

What role do you play in the production of the vaccine though? Are you a pharmacologist who genetically engineers the vaccine? Do you understand all of the interactions/side effects/mechanics involved? I ask because saying “I help make this shit so I know it’s perfectly fine” is all well and good, assuming you ACTUALLY know, and aren’t just some guy packing bottles of vaccine into boxes. I personally don’t get vaccines but I’d be interested in any scientific proof you can provide as to their safety.

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[quote]JLu wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
Me, my wife, my two daughters, my mother and father have gotten the shot we manufacture. And anyone can give me any of the conspiracy crap they want, I work on designing and validating the release tests, know everything that goes into the process and the what is in the final material inside and out for the vaccine we manufacture.

I work for sanofi pasteur, my family received the vaccine because I am considered business critical for vaccine production, so basically now you don’t have an excuse to call off at least for them having the flu.

But there are alot of employees here, that because the government is so involved with this, could not get the shot, because they are not business critical or do not fall in the CDC high risk categories, now tell me that is jacked, you helped develop it but can’t get it. All because the government doesn’t want to give the image that we are protecting our own.

What role do you play in the production of the vaccine though? Are you a pharmacologist who genetically engineers the vaccine? Do you understand all of the interactions/side effects/mechanics involved? I ask because saying “I help make this shit so I know it’s perfectly fine” is all well and good, assuming you ACTUALLY know, and aren’t just some guy packing bottles of vaccine into boxes. I personally don’t get vaccines but I’d be interested in any scientific proof you can provide as to their safety.[/quote]

I don’t think such a thing is even possible.

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So they held him down for squirming cause he was a pussy afraid of needles.

Big deal.

P.S. On a daily basis do you KNOW everything that’s gone into your body?

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[quote]JLu wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
Me, my wife, my two daughters, my mother and father have gotten the shot we manufacture. And anyone can give me any of the conspiracy crap they want, I work on designing and validating the release tests, know everything that goes into the process and the what is in the final material inside and out for the vaccine we manufacture.

I work for sanofi pasteur, my family received the vaccine because I am considered business critical for vaccine production, so basically now you don’t have an excuse to call off at least for them having the flu.

But there are alot of employees here, that because the government is so involved with this, could not get the shot, because they are not business critical or do not fall in the CDC high risk categories, now tell me that is jacked, you helped develop it but can’t get it. All because the government doesn’t want to give the image that we are protecting our own.

What role do you play in the production of the vaccine though? Are you a pharmacologist who genetically engineers the vaccine? Do you understand all of the interactions/side effects/mechanics involved? I ask because saying “I help make this shit so I know it’s perfectly fine” is all well and good, assuming you ACTUALLY know, and aren’t just some guy packing bottles of vaccine into boxes. I personally don’t get vaccines but I’d be interested in any scientific proof you can provide as to their safety.[/quote]

So it is obvious you don’t have much experience in the scientific field, I stated I design and validate the release tests. I work in a group that assesses all of the critical parameters of the process and develop and validate tests to monitor these key parameters, I also validate the use of safety tests on new vaccines and matrices. Potency tests, immunogenic response, work with the regulatory group to ensure their documents correctly state technical facts, work with the clinical group tracking the trials and new formulations.

But what do I expect from a half evolved animal, speaking of the avatar, or maybe you are just species confused.

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When I was a kid, I once had to have seven doctors hold me down for a shot.

… and they still couldn’t get it in me cause I squirmed too much.

Hated needles.

Kid didn’t want the shot.

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HH is right scientifically and statistically speaking I cannot provide proof they are safe, I can only provide evidence supporting that they are not unsafe, if that makes any sense.

What are you interested in, this mercury crap they’ll tell you, news flash, thimerosal is only added to multidose vial as preservative required by most major regulatory bodies. Or the difference between ethyl and methyl mercury, a comparison of the amounts you intake compared to tuna, salmon, fruits vegetables.

Or maybe about the fact that there is no intact virion in our vaccine that it is split whole virus, which actually purified antigen in a saline buffer.

If you have been keeping up on this topic you would have seen we are the only manufacturer on US soil for the inactivated injection, the other companies could not get licensed because they tried to get their version with adjuvant licensed, we didn’t. We stuck with a strain change, like every years seasonal flu. No process changes.

Oh maybe there are people who don’t understand that auto immune diseases are a genetically predisposed class of diseases, and any strong immune response can bring out this underlying disease. Then they wonder why guillian barre increases during flu season. It is the time of year and guess what, vaccines are designed to produce an immune response. Sorry if that comes off as insensitive, but after a while of dealing with people who read blogs and think they are experts on whatever it is, you get fed up.

I have a very strong background in genetics, immunology, immuno chem, biochem. Have worked in academic research, government research and in pharma industry primarily in biologics, vaccines, plasma derivatives, and medical device.

Does that qualify me?

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My daughter didn’t want stitches in her forehead either, but she was strapped to a board and got them, worst experience I’ve had with her. 8 internal 17 external.

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[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Me, my wife, my two daughters, my mother and father have gotten the shot we manufacture. And anyone can give me any of the conspiracy crap they want, I work on designing and validating the release tests, know everything that goes into the process and the what is in the final material inside and out for the vaccine we manufacture.

I work for sanofi pasteur, my family received the vaccine because I am considered business critical for vaccine production, so basically now you don’t have an excuse to call off at least for them having the flu.

But there are alot of employees here, that because the government is so involved with this, could not get the shot, because they are not business critical or do not fall in the CDC high risk categories, now tell me that is jacked, you helped develop it but can’t get it. All because the government doesn’t want to give the image that we are protecting our own. [/quote]

Not the point at all.

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[quote]Valor wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
Me, my wife, my two daughters, my mother and father have gotten the shot we manufacture. And anyone can give me any of the conspiracy crap they want, I work on designing and validating the release tests, know everything that goes into the process and the what is in the final material inside and out for the vaccine we manufacture.

I work for sanofi pasteur, my family received the vaccine because I am considered business critical for vaccine production, so basically now you don’t have an excuse to call off at least for them having the flu.

But there are alot of employees here, that because the government is so involved with this, could not get the shot, because they are not business critical or do not fall in the CDC high risk categories, now tell me that is jacked, you helped develop it but can’t get it. All because the government doesn’t want to give the image that we are protecting our own.

Not the point at all.[/quote]

oh i know seems to be the norm thought i’d join in.

I understand horrible hold the little kid down give him a shot against his will blahblah govenrment conspiracy blah blah. we’re all next.

If this were a grown adult that is one thing, pointless story.