Oh, and if you are that concerned about what others are gonna think looking at your transcript, join a frat or a school club and do a bunch of extracurricular shit. Look into getting a solid internship and network the hell outta it.
Someone with a 4.0 but nothing else going on will seem like a robotic buzzkill compared to the dude who got a 3.7 and had a life.
[quote]MusselQuest wrote:
OP, WHO GIVES A FUCK?
I just got an e-mail tonight saying I’m not set to graduate college in 10 days as scheduled and a fucking parking ticket. Quit your bitching, b4 I make the trip down to ATL and rip your balls off and shove them down your throat. Something tells me you can’t deadlift or squat for shit and can’t hold your own at a party, whatsoever. Please buy yourself some maxipads and thicker glasses on your next trip to CVS.
That is all. [/quote]
Sweet…just awesome.^
Only because I had something similar happen.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Oh, and if you are that concerned about what others are gonna think looking at your transcript, join a frat or a school club and do a bunch of extracurricular shit. Look into getting a solid internship and network the hell outta it.
Someone with a 4.0 but nothing else going on will seem like a robotic buzzkill compared to the dude who got a 3.7 and had a life.[/quote]
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OP it’s really not all about your GPA… I had a friend who graduated with a 3.8 GPA (bio major)… She was trying to go to the Medical School of GA and guess what, she was declined. Not because her GPA wasn’t high enough, but because thats ALL she had. She never engaged in any other extracurricular activities nor held a job while going to college.
Schools want to know you can multitask… A 3.7 GPA while having a job and participating in other stuff looks better than a 4.0 with nothing else. I’m not saying to lose focus but don’t pull your hair out over something so simple.
lol get over yourself… college is on a whole different level then high school and a 4.0 isn’t going to get you a job. Also those are basic requirements everyone short of a language arts major takes?!? not even computer engineering courses… so you better get used to getting lower grades if you’re already struggling…
Having a roommate that just graduated as a computer engineer from RIT(best CE school)… I can tell you the actual course work is pretty… um… rough.
My advice to you… get your head out of your ass, grades aren’t everything… try and accomplish something while you’re in school, and get a co-op internship because otherwise your magic 4.0 won’t even get a second glance.
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[quote]Fandango wrote:
Wouldn’t it be much more beneficial to spend this time studying instead of bitching about an “impossibly hard” physics class?[/quote]
I just saw this and had to quote it for its lawls… you’re not doing quantum physics… your class isn’t hard. You’ll look back hopefully sooner then later and you’ll feel completely retarded for struggling.
Sophomore year, OP will be waist-deep in stank pussy and weed.
Ahhh, college.
Don’t forget, a lot of the learning you do in school (and this IS learning that helps you in the real world) has nothing to do with your GPA.
3.0 and GO my friend
Interview > than GPA.
Nothing on earth is more fucking annoying than someone with a 3.8 that can’t reconcile cash. Fucking kids spend 4 years memorizing shit for tests, and never LEARN shit. So when they come here, I end up making them cry, when I ask how he got a 4.0, but he can’t do tasks that are the equivalent of lacing one’s shoe.
Dude, you are a freshman, and from the sounds of it, very coddled.
Relax, keep your GPA over 3.25 and enjoy your fucking life…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3.0 and GO my friend
Interview > than GPA.
Nothing on earth is more fucking annoying than someone with a 3.8 that can’t reconcile cash. Fucking kids spend 4 years memorizing shit for tests, and never LEARN shit. So when they come here, I end up making them cry, when I ask how he got a 4.0, but he can’t do tasks that are the equivalent of lacing one’s shoe.
Dude, you are a freshman, and from the sounds of it, very coddled.
Relax, keep your GPA over 3.25 and enjoy your fucking life…
[/quote]
I was walking a staff member through a PAJE and he totally wasn’t picking it up. I broke it down to the simplest questions and started with “This account is an asset, does it have a debit or credit balance?” He looked at me wide eyed, didn’t even take a guess and said “I don’t know.”
Jesus Christ.
All good advice previously. Remember there are 100’s of thousands of kids satisfied with 3.5s in creative writing and art and all the other majors that don’t necessarily lead to employment.
You are in an extremely practical major. You will be fine.
I think the difference in my study skills and time management between my freshman and senior years at college and laugh. In four years you get pretty good at college. Another piece of advice…Chat with your professors. Schedule a visit during office hours. Ask questions.
Can you get a tutor? If they’re an upper classmen in your field they will probably be pretty helpful.
Join a study group?
And of course CHILL the fuck out. Its hard to study when you are having a panic attack. Deep breaths and perspective.
Get lots of excercise.
Schedule time for blowing off steam however you choose to do that.
Get lots of sleep.
Good luck.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3.0 and GO my friend
Interview > than GPA.
Nothing on earth is more fucking annoying than someone with a 3.8 that can’t reconcile cash. Fucking kids spend 4 years memorizing shit for tests, and never LEARN shit. So when they come here, I end up making them cry, when I ask how he got a 4.0, but he can’t do tasks that are the equivalent of lacing one’s shoe.
Dude, you are a freshman, and from the sounds of it, very coddled.
Relax, keep your GPA over 3.25 and enjoy your fucking life…
[/quote]
I was walking a staff member through a PAJE and he totally wasn’t picking it up. I broke it down to the simplest questions and started with “This account is an asset, does it have a debit or credit balance?” He looked at me wide eyed, didn’t even take a guess and said “I don’t know.”
Jesus Christ.[/quote]
LOL! Welcome to working with interns.
I would have choke slammed that kid…
ha ha ha, thanks I needed that laugh today.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3.0 and GO my friend
Interview > than GPA.
Nothing on earth is more fucking annoying than someone with a 3.8 that can’t reconcile cash. Fucking kids spend 4 years memorizing shit for tests, and never LEARN shit. So when they come here, I end up making them cry, when I ask how he got a 4.0, but he can’t do tasks that are the equivalent of lacing one’s shoe.
Dude, you are a freshman, and from the sounds of it, very coddled.
Relax, keep your GPA over 3.25 and enjoy your fucking life…
[/quote]
I was walking a staff member through a PAJE and he totally wasn’t picking it up. I broke it down to the simplest questions and started with “This account is an asset, does it have a debit or credit balance?” He looked at me wide eyed, didn’t even take a guess and said “I don’t know.”
Jesus Christ.[/quote]
LOL! Welcome to working with interns.
I would have choke slammed that kid…
ha ha ha, thanks I needed that laugh today.[/quote]
Unfortunately, this was a full time employee with a BA in accounting. I don’t even know how he pulled that shit off with such a crappy understanding of accounting.
And I’d be laughing, too, except that’s a real story and it happened to me.
I looked at him and said “This is your life. You need to know this.”
take an econ class, learn about diminishing marginal returns, and realize all that time you spent studying to bring your grade to an 95 over an 85 was a huge waste of time.
whats more important is having an internship and getting experience, ive never been asked for my grade, im also in sales though so experience and having a ‘clubhouse feel’ is more important too. work isnt all about work, you develope social skills in college that are very important too.
You are going to be working for the next 40 years or so after your graduate, and then you will be too old to enjoy life. calm down, drink a beer, sleep through your friday classes and realize its not the end of the world. if you are that highs strung you are going to crack under all the pressure. enjoy your life man.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3.0 and GO my friend
Interview > than GPA.
Nothing on earth is more fucking annoying than someone with a 3.8 that can’t reconcile cash. Fucking kids spend 4 years memorizing shit for tests, and never LEARN shit. So when they come here, I end up making them cry, when I ask how he got a 4.0, but he can’t do tasks that are the equivalent of lacing one’s shoe.
Dude, you are a freshman, and from the sounds of it, very coddled.
Relax, keep your GPA over 3.25 and enjoy your fucking life…
[/quote]
I was walking a staff member through a PAJE and he totally wasn’t picking it up. I broke it down to the simplest questions and started with “This account is an asset, does it have a debit or credit balance?” He looked at me wide eyed, didn’t even take a guess and said “I don’t know.”
Jesus Christ.[/quote]
LOL! Welcome to working with interns.
I would have choke slammed that kid…
ha ha ha, thanks I needed that laugh today.[/quote]
Unfortunately, this was a full time employee with a BA in accounting. I don’t even know how he pulled that shit off with such a crappy understanding of accounting.
And I’d be laughing, too, except that’s a real story and it happened to me.
I looked at him and said “This is your life. You need to know this.”
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You both have me terrified of working in public accounting. But I know I’m not THAT clueless with something as basic as what accounts have debit/credit balances.
Don’t most accounting firms send their newbies to a training program before they start? I know all the larger firms I applied to do.
You mention interview > GPA. I know a good GPA will get you the interview, but I admit my interviewing skills suck donkey balls. I get way too nervous. Plus they all ask really stupid questions like: “Tell me about a time when you led a project with a diverse group of invdividuals to reach a deadline and accomplish the goal. Then tell me how you felt about it?”
I mean, how are you supposed to answer shit like that?
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
You both have me terrified of working in public accounting. But I know I’m not THAT clueless with something as basic as what accounts have debit/credit balances.
Don’t most accounting firms send their newbies to a training program before they start? I know all the larger firms I applied to do.
You mention interview > GPA. I know a good GPA will get you the interview, but I admit my interviewing skills suck donkey balls. I get way too nervous. Plus they all ask really stupid questions like: “Tell me about a time when you led a project with a diverse group of invdividuals to reach a deadline and accomplish the goal. Then tell me how you felt about it?”
I mean, how are you supposed to answer shit like that?[/quote]
Large firms do the training and ask the stupid ass questions, smaller firms will be like interviewing for any non giant corporation.
Just have a firm grasp of the debits and credits and you will be fine. No one expects someone to know everything off the street, but you have to know what a journal entry is or people will get frustrated. I mean, the bare bone basics is fine… And keep your text books and go home and look shit up you’re unsure of. My first week I went home and re-read my intermediate book that weekend.
I actually have a couple experienced staff under me now that I can communicate with, and they communicate with the the new staff. Shit like Lanky explained would result in me hulk smashing the kid. It is more and more difficult to communicate on that basic of a level every year. Not to be a douche, but I don’t have time for that shit.
Just listen more than you speak, and grow everyday.
You should be fine, particularly if you have some exam experience under your belt.
I would probably avoid hiring the guy with a 4.0 GPA knowing what I know now.
I was obsessed with grades to a degree as well seeing as I had to in order to get into either med/dental school and the competition is high. Unless you have goals if grad school, it makes little sense to be that hung up on a GPA.
I have actually heard of some from admissions committees not accepting some students with 4.0’s because they lacked any other social experience through out college other than going to class.
A well rounded resume will beat a single focused 4.0 with no extra-curriculars any day.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
3.0 and GO my friend
Interview > than GPA.
Nothing on earth is more fucking annoying than someone with a 3.8 that can’t reconcile cash. Fucking kids spend 4 years memorizing shit for tests, and never LEARN shit. So when they come here, I end up making them cry, when I ask how he got a 4.0, but he can’t do tasks that are the equivalent of lacing one’s shoe.
Dude, you are a freshman, and from the sounds of it, very coddled.
Relax, keep your GPA over 3.25 and enjoy your fucking life…
[/quote]
I was walking a staff member through a PAJE and he totally wasn’t picking it up. I broke it down to the simplest questions and started with “This account is an asset, does it have a debit or credit balance?” He looked at me wide eyed, didn’t even take a guess and said “I don’t know.”
Jesus Christ.[/quote]
LOL! Welcome to working with interns.
I would have choke slammed that kid…
ha ha ha, thanks I needed that laugh today.[/quote]
Unfortunately, this was a full time employee with a BA in accounting. I don’t even know how he pulled that shit off with such a crappy understanding of accounting.
And I’d be laughing, too, except that’s a real story and it happened to me.
I looked at him and said “This is your life. You need to know this.”
[/quote]
You both have me terrified of working in public accounting. But I know I’m not THAT clueless with something as basic as what accounts have debit/credit balances.
Don’t most accounting firms send their newbies to a training program before they start? I know all the larger firms I applied to do.[/quote]
Yeah, but the trainings are more geared towards what procedures to perform on different audit cycles, the accounting basics should already be known at that point. And besides, training can’t hold a candle to actually being in the field and doing the work.
If you get so nervous, look into taking beta blockers to feel more at ease. I’ve never had to use them so I don’t know much about them, but I know a few people who use them during stressful situations.
Another tip - if you’re working and you have a basic question and you feel like you SHOULD already know the answer, a quick google search will probably help you out. You look more intelligent and your senior never even realizes you had a dumb question.
[quote]Plus they all ask really stupid questions like: “Tell me about a time when you led a project with a diverse group of invdividuals to reach a deadline and accomplish the goal. Then tell me how you felt about it?”
I mean, how are you supposed to answer shit like that?[/quote]
Lol, interviews are 90% lies. You already know the standard questions they’ll be asking (a quick google search will give you every possible question). Have an answer for each question before the interview and practice reading them out loud before hand. By the time the interview rolls around these answers should be 2nd nature.
One thing I’ve learned so far earning my civil engineering degree is it’s not WHAT you know, but WHO you know. Your communication skills are far more important than a high GPA. Not saying you can fail class and still succeed, but someone who is outgoing with some experience and extra curriculars with a 2.5 GPA is gonna get hired over the guy with a 4.0 that doesn’t know how to introduce himself to a complete stranger.
[quote]ashylarryku wrote:
One thing I’ve learned so far earning my civil engineering degree is it’s not WHAT you know, but WHO you know. Your communication skills are far more important than a high GPA. Not saying you can fail class and still succeed, but someone who is outgoing with some experience and extra curriculars with a 2.5 GPA is gonna get hired over the guy with a 4.0 that doesn’t know how to introduce himself to a complete stranger. [/quote]
Ouch, a 2.5 is pretty low. I don’t know about engineering (so you could be right) but many firms won’t hire someone with a GPA below 3.0.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]ashylarryku wrote:
One thing I’ve learned so far earning my civil engineering degree is it’s not WHAT you know, but WHO you know. Your communication skills are far more important than a high GPA. Not saying you can fail class and still succeed, but someone who is outgoing with some experience and extra curriculars with a 2.5 GPA is gonna get hired over the guy with a 4.0 that doesn’t know how to introduce himself to a complete stranger. [/quote]
Ouch, a 2.5 is pretty low. I don’t know about engineering (so you could be right) but many firms won’t hire someone with a GPA below 3.0.[/quote]
True. A GPA that low means you barely went to class. You won’t be getting into any grad schools with that no matter how well you talk to people unless you aced the entrance exams.
GPA of 2.3 or greater is acceptable for engineering. Seeking out internships and developing connections with other engineers will have the biggest influence on getting hired. The classes are very important, but as an engineer in training, you will also learn a lot more on the job from senior engineers.
However, if you are in any other faculty, I would say that anything less than a 2.7 is questionable.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]ashylarryku wrote:
One thing I’ve learned so far earning my civil engineering degree is it’s not WHAT you know, but WHO you know. Your communication skills are far more important than a high GPA. Not saying you can fail class and still succeed, but someone who is outgoing with some experience and extra curriculars with a 2.5 GPA is gonna get hired over the guy with a 4.0 that doesn’t know how to introduce himself to a complete stranger. [/quote]
Ouch, a 2.5 is pretty low. I don’t know about engineering (so you could be right) but many firms won’t hire someone with a GPA below 3.0.[/quote]
True. A GPA that low means you barely went to class. You won’t be getting into any grad schools with that no matter how well you talk to people unless you aced the entrance exams.[/quote]
id say in the ballpark of 3 is pretty decent, 4.0 is being OCD and antisocial, or taking wayyy to many BS classes. or being at a BS school in the first place.