Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Implicit association test - people generally associate good things with whites and bad things with blacks even when they say they have no racial hatred towards other races. I first read about it in Blink by Malcolm Gladwell.
I can’t find the video Gladwell did on it, but apparently anderson cooper did a show on it
You can take the test yourself
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/takeatest.html
I haven’t watched the AC vids myself[/quote]
Wow I am a piece of racist shit according to this test, guess I learnt something new about myself.
I took 3 tests:
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african american vs european american test: I got a moderat preference for european americans. ( surprised )
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Muslim arabs vs other people: I got a moderat preference for arab muslim. ( surprised )
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Reagan vs Obama: I got a strong automatic preference for Obama. ( not surprise LOL )
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]
LOL.
There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me.
Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show.
This country is still growing. The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Why is this so important to you Doc? I’m not even necessarily saying it shouldn’t be for now. I’m list askin.[/quote]I haven’t even logged in for about 5 days. I honestly don’t understand why anyone would be concerned enough about why I posted in a thread to post just to ask the question.
I already wrote why this topic interested me on the first page. I even mentioned that my dad was a history teacher. Are you reading this stuff or just looking for things to analyze?[/quote]Come on Doc. It’s been a while, but you know me pretty well no? Have I ever toyed or played games with you? I was wondering why you find it so dire that many people can’t trace their heritage beyond the 18th century. How good do you feel the record keeping was where these folks came from anyway? The point is, wouldn’t you rather define yourself than be defined by your progenitors. I’m speaking generally. Not just about black people. Genealogy is certainly interesting, but how is your life diminished in the absence of long knowledge in this area?
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I actually already addressed this as well…which again makes me wonder if you are actually reading all of this.
It doesn’t have anything to do with just knowing your familial roots to the 18th century. Someone who grew up in a culture that catered to their race specifically would OBVIOUSLY feel little need for a reliance on base roots as there would be no feeling of displacement.
Why would anyone avoid acknowledging this?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]
LOL.
There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me.
Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show.
This country is still growing. The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.[/quote]
Or it could Tirib is exactly right because there is more black on black violence than white on black violence. And black people not being stupid understand.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]
LOL.
There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me.
Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show.
This country is still growing. The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.[/quote]
Or it could Tirib is exactly right because there is more black on black violence than white on black violence. And black people not being stupid understand.
[/quote]
How does this even address what I wrote?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]
LOL.
There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me.
Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show.
This country is still growing. The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.[/quote]
Or it could Tirib is exactly right because there is more black on black violence than white on black violence. And black people not being stupid understand.
[/quote]
How does this even address what I wrote?[/quote]
You like to play pretend don’t you?
WTF seriously?
Hahahahahahahaha
The shit “smart” people come up with.
Black people scared of black people?
God damn it. Im gonna shit on myself from laughing so hard…or is it out of fear that the dude next to me in class is about to pop a cap in my ass?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]
LOL.
There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me.
Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show.
This country is still growing. The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.[/quote]
Or it could Tirib is exactly right because there is more black on black violence than white on black violence. And black people not being stupid understand.
[/quote]
How does this even address what I wrote?[/quote]
You like to play pretend don’t you?[/quote]
Uh, no. I mentioned the Cosby Show which defined a specific period of time to the present in media influence. Your comment doesn’t address this at all. There is nothing to play pretend about.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]
LOL.
There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me.
Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show.
This country is still growing. The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.[/quote]
Or it could Tirib is exactly right because there is more black on black violence than white on black violence. And black people not being stupid understand.
[/quote]
How does this even address what I wrote?[/quote]
You like to play pretend don’t you?[/quote]
Uh, no. I mentioned the Cosby Show which defined a specific period of time to the present in media influence. Your comment doesn’t address this at all. There is nothing to play pretend about. [/quote]
This is what Tirib said:
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My comment was LOL because he failed to acknowledge any role of media/society in that finding and ONLY placed the blame on “environment”. I must be typing too fast.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
^?
My comment was LOL because he failed to acknowledge any role of media/society in that finding and ONLY placed the blame on “environment”. I must be typing too fast.[/quote]
Actually, you are typing too fast you should slow down and think BEFORE you post.
The media (chuckle) has NOTHING to do with black on black crime.
[quote]Professor X wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Local polling here in Detroit shows that blacks themselves will be more suspicious of a black person they encounter on the street than a white person. By far. This is because of what they see every day and being sensible folk would prefer not to have their head shot off. I have addressed this dynamic in detail elsewhere. It has NOTHING innately to do with race.[/quote]LOL. There is a large segment of the population who grew up remembering when they used to ALWAYS find the most illiterate black person in the area to “interview” for the news of what just happened. It had gotten comical by the end of the 90’s. With crap like that in our current history, that “finding” does not surprise me. >>>[/quote]I just know they ask alotta black people and that’s what they say. [quote]Professor X wrote:<<< Your impression of what other races are like is shaped by media as well as local environment. >>>[/quote] My “impression” of black people is from spending the vast majority of my time worshiping, praying, working, eating, and playing with them. [quote]Professor X wrote:<<< It would be dishonest to avoid admitting that there was a huge lapse in the public representation of educated financially stable functional dark skinned black people before The Cosby Show. >>>[/quote] Here’s a clue. The very large number of black people I know very VERY well couldn’t care less what was on TV then now or ever. They define themselves as men (and women) created in the image and likeness of almighty God first. Husbands second. Fathers next and black somewhere in there too. If you’re ever in town, I’ll introduce you. They will show you how badly you’re cheating yourself. [quote]Professor X wrote:<<< This country is still growing. >>>[/quote] No actually this country is dying. In case you haven’t noticed. [quote]Professor X wrote:<<< The fault would be in avoiding acknowledging that it still is and hasn’t grown up yet.[/quote] The fault is continuing to look to a far away government to make your life what it is. You’ve been conned Doc. People like me are your friends. Not those whores in DC.
[quote]Professor X wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Why is this so important to you Doc? I’m not even necessarily saying it shouldn’t be for now. I’m list askin.[/quote]I haven’t even logged in for about 5 days. I honestly don’t understand why anyone would be concerned enough about why I posted in a thread to post just to ask the question.
I already wrote why this topic interested me on the first page. I even mentioned that my dad was a history teacher. Are you reading this stuff or just looking for things to analyze?[/quote]Come on Doc. It’s been a while, but you know me pretty well no? Have I ever toyed or played games with you? I was wondering why you find it so dire that many people can’t trace their heritage beyond the 18th century. How good do you feel the record keeping was where these folks came from anyway? The point is, wouldn’t you rather define yourself than be defined by your progenitors. I’m speaking generally. Not just about black people. Genealogy is certainly interesting, but how is your life diminished in the absence of long knowledge in this area?
[/quote]I actually already addressed this as well…which again makes me wonder if you are actually reading all of this. >>>[/quote] Actually no. I haven’t read the whole thread so if I missed something please forgive me. [quote]Professor X wrote:<<< It doesn’t have anything to do with just knowing your familial roots to the 18th century. Someone who grew up in a culture that catered to their race specifically would OBVIOUSLY feel little need for a reliance on base roots as there would be no feeling of displacement. [/quote] We just look at life differently you n I Doc, that’s all. You allow external factors to define and govern you. I am defined, as are my very black brothers and sisters, not by my skin, but by Jesus’s blood and resurrection. I love my country. I will vote again and I will work and pray for her best. She will however NEVER hold me in bondage like she does you. No matter what happens or who’s elected or what idiotic scheme comes outta DC next. I AM just fine. [quote]Professor X wrote:<<< Why would anyone avoid acknowledging this?[/quote] I don’t avoid anything Doc. You oughta know that. Your point is simply not valid. You have allowed your skin in relation to what you think others think of it to run your life. Stop it. Stop it today. You’ll thank me.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
We just look at life differently you n I Doc, that’s all. You allow external factors to define and govern you. I am defined, as are my very black brothers and sisters, not by my skin, but by Jesus’s blood and resurrection.[/quote]
That is all well and good…and it sounds great on post cards. The reality is, everyone on the planet defines themselves in part by external factors. That goes along with peer influence and guardian influence. I am not sure what the “holier than thou” attitude is for, but there is no way in hell, you, as a human being, on’t allow external factors to affect who you are at all.
At least be real.
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I love my country. I will vote again and I will work and pray for her best. She will however NEVER hold me in bondage like she does you. No matter what happens or who’s elected or what idiotic scheme comes outta DC next. I AM just fine.[/quote]
WTF? Bondage? I served for this country. Where were you?
Uh, my point is valid. Environment, social aspects and media affect your view of the world. Anyone denying that is lying to themselves.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:<<< Black people scared of black people? >>>[/quote]Come visit Detroit. I’ll drop ya off on the east side. They will teach you wadda tough guy you really ain’t. They will kill you for your clothes. Or because they’re bored. Reports of racism in this city are a bit misleading. They actually don’t really care what color anybody is. They kill each other every day. Not because they’re black. Because they have no families. Except the liberal destroyers who have succeeded in turning them onto nursing dependent zombies. Don’t need to be black for that. Could happen to me just as easily. That’s why I WILL NOT take their so called “assistance” despite the fact that I qualify for it all. No thanks. I see what it’s done to my city. I’ll pass.
I read an article recently that the Cops have basically “given up” in Detroit.
Crazy shit.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:<<< Black people scared of black people? >>>[/quote]Come visit Detroit. I’ll drop ya off on the east side. They will teach you wadda tough guy you really ain’t. They will kill you for your clothes. Or because they’re bored. Reports of racism in this city are a bit misleading. They actually don’t really care what color anybody is. They kill each other every day. Not because they’re black. Because they have no families. Except the liberal destroyers who have succeeded in turning them onto nursing dependent zombies. Don’t need to be black for that. Could happen to me just as easily. That’s why I WILL NOT take their so called “assistance” despite the fact that I qualify for it all. No thanks. I see what it’s done to my city. I’ll pass.
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LOL. Actually, I would be judging someone by their gait and other cultural signs than someone’s skin color to observe a threat. The idiot who would lock their door on a “black” guy but not on a “white” guy with that as the only deciding factor deserves to get mugged.
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Why is this so important to you Doc? I’m not even necessarily saying it shouldn’t be for now. I’m list askin.[/quote]
I honestly don’t understand why anyone would be concerned enough about why I posted in a thread to post just to ask the question.
Are you reading this stuff or just looking for things to analyze?[/quote]
? Even for you this is a little snarky. Trib was just asking an honest question.
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I do not think so, he already stated at the beginning why he thinks it is celebrated. How is he supposed to answer that question, “Because I am Black” ?
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You have to understand they think the rest of us don’t see that. That is why they are now arguing about why someone is posting instead of what was actually posted.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I read an article recently that the Cops have basically “given up” in Detroit.
Crazy shit. [/quote]
The rest of the country has.
[quote]Professor X wrote:<<< Uh, my point is valid. Environment, social aspects and media affect your view of the world. Anyone denying that is lying to themselves.[/quote] I didn’t say anything about viewing the world. I’m talking about viewing YOU. I’m not being holier than thou. I am simply telling you that you place an inordinate, unhealthy and unproductive emphasis on race and ethnicity that is not now nor will it ever serve you well. I’ve known you here a long time. We used to spend a lot of time talking. Remember? Went through some battles. Fought for some of the same stuff on this site? I actually needed to talk you about something in private regarding the T-Cell, but PM’s don’t work and I lost my mail server when we lost the house so I don’t have your address anymore.
Anyway. I’m just telling you what I see Doc. Like I always have. Because I’d like to think we’re still friends. Ya know what’s funny? I bet I think much higher of the black people in my life than you do of most of the ones in yours. When I am hurtin, down and not sure what to do. Yes, that happens sometimes. The man I turn to first is a 63 year old black Vietnam veteran (purple heart) whose word is pure 24kt gold to me. He is my brother and he is wise. I love him and I trust him more than I have ever trusted any man in my life. When everything in my life was coming apart. I knelt face down at the altar of that church sobbing like a baby. I became aware of an arm around me and a man praying for me with all his heart. After like 20 minutes I looked up and saw his face for the first time. He didn’t even know my name, but I saw the love of Christ in his eyes. He had this soft caring look on his face as if I was his own son. I would take a bullet for him without a second thought.