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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am sure there is more about Black History Month because it is more popular more than likely due to its actual need in regards to helping a disenfranchised group of people regain a sense of culture and accomplishment. Just like what was said about Jewish Month, if those cultures already have or feel no need for a deeper understanding of their heritage, then OBVIOUSLY there would be less focus on a month dedicated to the understanding of it.

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30,000+ people celebrate St. Patrick’s Day in Butte MT each year. There is clearly a strong interest in Irish culture and history.[/quote]

You aren’t very good with this debate stuff, huh?

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Just because somebody has a different opinion than you…does not make them less equiped at this “debate stuff”

I don’t mind Black History month…it probably serves a valid role in our society, but you have not refuted a single point the other posters have made.

All you have done is agree with the two people who agree with you.

Maybe you are just not cut out for this forum.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

That just means there is a strong desire to get fucked up and drunk.

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Exactly. A strong interest in Irish culture and tradition.

No, it’s not like saying that. Christmas has become a secular holiday for a significant proportion of the population. St. Patrick’s Day is very important to people of Irish descent the world over.

That’s racist!

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They aren’t loading up on Irish historical info.[/quote]

My point about St. Patrick’s Day in Butte was that there is a large number of people of Irish descent, interested in Irish culture and traditions. The fact that they aren’t studying Irish history on St. Patrick’s Day is kind of meaningless.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am sure there is more about Black History Month because it is more popular more than likely due to its actual need in regards to helping a disenfranchised group of people regain a sense of culture and accomplishment. Just like what was said about Jewish Month, if those cultures already have or feel no need for a deeper understanding of their heritage, then OBVIOUSLY there would be less focus on a month dedicated to the understanding of it.

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30,000+ people celebrate St. Patrick’s Day in Butte MT each year. There is clearly a strong interest in Irish culture and history.[/quote]

You aren’t very good with this debate stuff, huh?

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Just because somebody has a different opinion than you…does not make them less equiped at this “debate stuff”

I don’t mind Black History month…it probably serves a valid role in our society, but you have not refuted a single point the other posters have made.

All you have done is agree with the two people who agree with you.

Maybe you are just not cut out for this forum.
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All I have done?

LOL

I linked at least three threads going into much detail and scientific study about this topic. I would say that was more than just agreeing with two people.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

No, it’s not like saying that. Christmas has become a secular holiday for a significant proportion of the population. St. Patrick’s Day is very important to people of Irish descent the world over.[/quote]

LOL.

It is also a “secular holiday” for a significant proportion of the population to just put on green and drink alcohol.

Your point is weak.

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I have not seen this great significance that is being placed on st. Pats by Irish people that you talk about.

It’s nothing more than a day to drink at 11am and wear green. At least from a Canadian perspective it’s really not true

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If you got rid of st. Pat day and made it drink early and wear green Day i doubt there would be any outcry.

Maybe a 1 day news story

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I want to add the founding fathers of Canada are English, Scottish, Irish and French. So when you teach CDN history you are in a sense teaching the history of people’s of these ancestries

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

No, it’s not like saying that. Christmas has become a secular holiday for a significant proportion of the population. St. Patrick’s Day is very important to people of Irish descent the world over.[/quote]

LOL.

It is also a “secular holiday” for a significant proportion of the population to just put on green and drink alcohol.

Your point is weak.[/quote]

My point was that a lot of people who celebrate Christmas have no interest in the nativity story or Christianity. Whereas I contend that there is significant interest in Irish culture and tradition amongst the diaspora community.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Why is this so important to you Doc? I’m not even necessarily saying it shouldn’t be for now. I’m list askin.[/quote]

I honestly don’t understand why anyone would be concerned enough about why I posted in a thread to post just to ask the question.

Are you reading this stuff or just looking for things to analyze?[/quote]

? Even for you this is a little snarky. Trib was just asking an honest question.
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I do not think so, he already stated at the beginning why he thinks it is celebrated. How is he supposed to answer that question, “Because I am Black” ?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

That just means there is a strong desire to get fucked up and drunk.

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Exactly. A strong interest in Irish culture and tradition.

No, it’s not like saying that. Christmas has become a secular holiday for a significant proportion of the population. St. Patrick’s Day is very important to people of Irish descent the world over.

That’s racist!

Guy, you are not American you have no idea what you are talking about. St.Patricks Day is like Cinco De Mayo or what many call it Drinko De Mayo. A day to get fucked up. Interested in Irish culture and traditions? Are you kidding me? People dress up in green clothing and drink green beer.

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

Guy, you are not American you have no idea what you are talking about.

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How do those two things relate to each other? i.e. not being American and having no idea what I’m talking about.

Yes, I know and have already said so. Getting drunk is an Irish tradition. I don’t need you to tell me about St. Patrick’s Day or getting drunk sonny.

Clearly you haven’t read/understood my posts. As I have already explained, I mentioned the St. Patrick’s Day parade in Butte merely to demonstrate that there are numerous people of Irish descent who live there.

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Why is this so important to you Doc? I’m not even necessarily saying it shouldn’t be for now. I’m list askin.[/quote]

I honestly don’t understand why anyone would be concerned enough about why I posted in a thread to post just to ask the question.

Are you reading this stuff or just looking for things to analyze?[/quote]

? Even for you this is a little snarky. Trib was just asking an honest question.
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I do not think so, he already stated at the beginning why he thinks it is celebrated. How is he supposed to answer that question, “Because I am Black” ?
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No it was an innocent, politely asked question…no need for snarky sarcasm.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

That just means there is a strong desire to get fucked up and drunk.

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Exactly. A strong interest in Irish culture and tradition.[/quote]

I really hope no one missed how funny and true both these statements are. (There is a hint of irony in there as well.)

But anywho… For what it is worth, being Irish is a fairly big deal in Boston. Boston is also the most racist area in the nation hands down, so take that for what its worth. And no, it isn’t just the Irish hating blacks, everyone hates everyone.

I think things like Black History month are good. With that said, once we (yes all races) don’t need things like this to be both proud and aware of who we are and comfortable that others are different than we are, then we will have accomplished something.

I think what OP was getting at is he feels we’ve gone so far left into ultra PC land and now things are just as fucked up because we have media heads like Chris Mathews and Bill Mahr basically telling white people they are default racist. (In this particular instance they insist you must be racist if you don’t vote for obama, or that romney has momentum right now not because obama has run a shitty campaign, shit 4 years and bombed debate one, but rather because white America “changed the rules”…) He blames progressives. I feel like it is more insecurity, but I do see where he is coming from on some levels with the “whack a mole” take on liberal policies.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Why is this so important to you Doc? I’m not even necessarily saying it shouldn’t be for now. I’m list askin.[/quote]I haven’t even logged in for about 5 days. I honestly don’t understand why anyone would be concerned enough about why I posted in a thread to post just to ask the question.

I already wrote why this topic interested me on the first page. I even mentioned that my dad was a history teacher. Are you reading this stuff or just looking for things to analyze?[/quote]Come on Doc. It’s been a while, but you know me pretty well no? Have I ever toyed or played games with you? I was wondering why you find it so dire that many people can’t trace their heritage beyond the 18th century. How good do you feel the record keeping was where these folks came from anyway? The point is, wouldn’t you rather define yourself than be defined by your progenitors. I’m speaking generally. Not just about black people. Genealogy is certainly interesting, but how is your life diminished in the absence of long knowledge in this area?

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Take note everyone, professor X ain’t got a clue. He just wants to AGITATE.

Whiny. Needy. Agitate. Repeat. Add Needy. Rinse. Repeat.

Here’s some more Agitate:

It’s quite common when you take time to search for the Whiny, Needy White folk don’t love me crowds.

Here’s a pointer professor X, everyone ain’t gonna love you so get over it and quit calling it racism. Sometimes people don’t like you because you aren’t their type. Ain’t the world a sad place?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Pure gold!

Mike Wallace: “How are we going to get rid of racism?”

Morgan Freeman: “Stop talking about it”.
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The Op said that “liberals changed history” and implied this was for the worse. I am asking why anyone would take that stance when it is very clear that early history books in this country were extremely biased?

Why would someone so concerned with succeeding in current society be focused on “getting rid of Black History Month” INSTEAD of "getting a more rounded look at history for all people?

I am not “Pro Black history month”. I just don’t see the big issue with it. Some of you are cheering for teams and shit instead of looking at reality.[/quote]

And the reality of it is exactly what Morgan Freeman stated. And that’s why I posted it.

Take a deep breath…[/quote]

No, that was one ACTOR’S opinion…and while I think Freeman is one of the best actors around, I put as much weight into his political opinion as I do Tom Cruises’. You only cheer this on because you think he is agreeing with you.

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By the way I listen to actors. Kelsey Grammar and Clint Eastwood.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, it needs to be understood that before the late 70’s, most of the mass media in this country only focused on the majority. This left an entire segment of the population with absolutely no role models in the public eye that were not athletes or local criminals.[/quote]

Absolute HORSESHIT that one has to be the SAME color or even the same GENDER to be a role model. In other words an African American couldn’t set his eye on any other race or gender to lift HIS ideals. That says a lot from your heart about black single mothers being role models.

[quote]That is why early studies conducted showing a black doll and a white doll to kids during those years revealed responses that the kids believed the black doll was “ugly” or “bad” in comparison.

Remember, there didn’t even used to be black Barbie dolls or GI Joes. Blacks seen in media were usually degraded…even in cartoons.[/quote]

Professor you are as brainwashed a dude as I’ve ever met or you are just trolling. Either way I don’t think many take you seriously. Get away from daddy the African American History teacher and you may open your mind.

Anytime there’s a buck to be made retailers find that buck. Maybe there’s another reason besides what you spout about Black Barbies etc… but you don’t care, you know it all:

I would like a doll that picks it’s nose and eats it’s boogers but I can’t find one because they are PORTRAYED as “ugly” or “bad” in comparison to regular dolls. That’s DISCRIMINATION.

It of course has nothing to do with whether THAT DOLL would be a MONEY LOSER for the retailer.

Professor X why not explain the phenomenon in terms we can all relate to: Why DO black men prefer white women? Are black women PORTRAYED at home as “ugly” or “bad” in comparison to the white family? Please… Inquiring minds want to know!

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Professor X needs to come to my church. Where I as a pale skinned white man am in the vaaast minority and my brothers and sisters love me and I them because we are created in the image of god no matter what color we are. Take a look at my facebook friends Doc. Redirecting... There are some men there your horizons would be very productively broadened by meeting. God made you black and me white. He wouldn’t have it any other way and therefore neither would I. That’s a good thing.

However the amount melanin in the skin carries zero weight with us either way when assessing what kind of human being we are dealing with. Again. Genealogy is fun and interesting and there’s nuthin wrong with it. Dare I say though my old friend that your life is not being enhanced by giving it more than it’s due. The various ethnicities and the different ways they make us look are God’s design. I praise Him for it.

Elevating THAT aspect of being human over His image which knows no color is idolatry. I hope ya knock it off. Getting up in the morning will be a lot more pleasant if ya do. If you see so much as one particle of “racism” in anything I’ve said? Then it’s even worse that I thought.

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Implicit association test - people generally associate good things with whites and bad things with blacks even when they say they have no racial hatred towards other races. I first read about it in Blink by Malcolm Gladwell.

I can’t find the video Gladwell did on it, but apparently anderson cooper did a show on it

http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/04/17/are-you-impartial-to-a-certain-race-take-the-implicit-associate-test/

You can take the test yourself

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/takeatest.html

I haven’t watched the AC vids myself