Yeah, eugenics used to be a pretty popular idea. But its very easily manipulated for evil.
They can be limited. Poor people should not have the disposable income to own iPhones. Welfare is cash benefits while foodstamps are for food.
That might cause an even bigger problem:
Agreed. Maybe issue welfare money that is only redeemable at welfare stores where the only thing stocked are childrens food, clothes, and learning products.
Problem? that is a godsend for the planet.
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Itās a disaster waiting for humanity. Read the article.
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There are mandatory arrest laws, in at least some States, in cases of domestic violence in which a primary physical aggressor can be identified.
Homeless shelters usually(at least, around here) wonāt accept a drunk. Many homeless drunks hate the homeless shelters. Homeless encampments are often in places that prohibit trespassing. That belligerent, drunk(and often mentally disturbed), homeless person is either going to jail anyway, or going to be permitted to continue shitting in the streets, alleys, and parking garages.
It doesnāt matter what skills they have. They have to be hesitant to use them. Itās difficult to handle anyone that doesnāt want to be handled, while making not using any force that could possibly be deemed excessive your priority.
People get charged for assaulting the dog though. I know I couldnāt sit still with a dog biting me, I would try to kill the fucking thing. Gouge out his eyes and crush his throat or something.
I donāt think dogs really need to be used in police work anymore. Even for drug detection, they make lots of mistakes.
Agreed, K9 dogs are weapons not officers. An officer is firing a semi-guided less-lethal furry bullet at a suspect when the dog is released. Its just as unethical to use the dog as a weapon against dangerous suspects as it is to harm that same dog when it attacks you.
You say that but a bite from a dog like that can be debilitating. If you fight, it will hurt more. I look at my German Shepherd Dogās incisors and there is no way I want them tearing my flesh off.
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I donāt see anything wrong with using them for drug detection, the problem is when they have dogs biting people. You can see videos where the cops are just standing around the upect while the dogs is tearing him apart, no excuse for shit like that.
How is it unethical to defend yourself from a dog? With a cop you could surrender, the dog is going to bite you no matter what you do.
Maybe you have a point, I guess I would have to find out for myself and I would rather not.
Search and rescue, crowd control, cell and room extraction, engaging an armed suspect to keep from using lethal force, taking a bullet so the officer doesnāt, bomb detection. K9s do a lot of different tasks that humans canāt.
IIRC, the error rate that the dogs have is quite high. I have also heard that it is somewhat common for an officer to queue the dog to bark, so they have a reason to search.
Can agree with that.
I donāt see much of an advantage in efficiency using a dog over a human.
I donāt know if I support this or not. It seems unethical to put a dog at risk for this. I would need to see data on how well this works out. I am guessing often the dog gets lethal force.
I donāt think we should use animal shields for police work. Body armor if the situation calls for it seems smarter than relying on a dog.
Agree with this use.
It would be illegal. And why was the dog been deployed? Is it ethical for a criminal, who did something that warranted deploying a dog, to fight that dog?
If you surrender, the dog is a non issue.
Itās because of poor handling. Even K9s and more importantly, their handlers, need more training but that costs money. Itās also not a permanent job as far as I know so there is turnover.
A dog is a deterrent. For cell extraction, you can send in officers but with a dog, often the threat alone can end the situation. If there is an armed person in a house, you can send in SWAT who might not know exactly where he is and could be entering an ambush or send in a dog who will be able to detect where the suspect is and engage him and give SWAT the advantage and a better chance to arrest the suspect instead of killing him. In other words, you can send the dog in on a suicide mission to try and prevent police and even suspect deaths.
The dog doesnāt think so. In our society, as much as we love dogs and value some animalsā right to life more than others, we still value human life, even criminals, more than dogs.
But a dog is smarter than body armor. If a dog takes a bullet itās because things have gone to shit.
Everything has an error rate, the dog can only give probable cause, not reason for a charge. And if the cops are getting the dog to bark like that then the problem is the cop, not the dog.
Yeah, itās illegal. Usually from what I have seen they send the dogs after people running from the cops, so technically the suspect is at fault but at the same time should they be expected to subject themselves to being bitten by a dog? Getting tackled and restrained by a cop, maybe punched or kicked a few times too, doesnāt sound half as bad as getting chewed up by a big dog.
Do the dogs actually back off if you give up or they just attack regardless? I have never seen a police dog get within range of the suspect and not bite him, but I could be wrong.
I have seen robots used too. I prefer that over a dog as I really like dogs.
That is true.
Depends on context. If it is my dog, then I would rather a stranger take the bullet and die. If it is between my dog and family or friends, the dog goes.
hahaha no. the dog is supposed to stay engaged and keep you down. this means its teeth are still in you or your clothing. then there is the problem of the dog not releasing immediately and the handler having serious problem getting the dog to disengageā¦ and then stay disengaged when it sees its handler āplayingā with the suspect to handcuff him. Police/military/sheepā¦ really any working dogs are breed for very strong instincts, and then trained to enhance those instincts. It can be a problem because in states of high arousal (like chasing and talking down a suspect) the dog cant help itself from following instinct over learned commands.
If a suspect has a half decent lawyer they can usually win a civil settlement against the PD for the dog using too much force/not releasing on time/etc. ESPECIALLY if that dog has had a similar accusation made against it before.
I think working dogs are great tools. I just think its BS to extend rights and privileges afforded a human let alone a cop.
Well thatās what Iām saying, no matter what I did for the police to be after me, if I have a dog with his teeth sunk into me Iām not going to lay there and wait for the cops to get him off me. All I know is if a dog bites you and wonāt let go then go for his eyes and throat.