Bust yo strap and blam em!
[quote]Makavali wrote:
The key to being a good troll is being consistent. I thought your GF was an ex-lesbian stemming from abuse from her father and you were the first guy she slept with? Except her dad, of course.[/quote]
I mess with more than one girl.
And I didnt say im the first guy she slept with. She got a 3 year old daughter and a baby daddy who stay down the street or around the block, one of those.
And I never said this was my gf, it not the point of the girl its the principle of the whole thing. Why am I gone just disappear because another man get mad? So because he mad I supposed to run and hide somewhere?
[quote]facko wrote:
Knuckle up man…seriously…when I first started dating my current girlfriend…her ex wouldn’t stop calling her etc and even came to my job …which I wasn’t there …but out of principle, I had to fight him for coming to my job to start shit.
No guns needed…just fight one on one…preferably at night…in a secluded parking lot…noone else there but you and him, so noone can stop it. Or you can be more mature than I and just confront him in a verbal non violent way. To be honest, I would have never let it slide as far as you did…no matter what the girl said…the first day he was out there I’d immediately go outside and be like WHAT THE FUCK IS UP?![/quote]
Yea but you can whoop someone ass and they can come back and retaliate, a gunshot puts an end to it all then and there. Plus, if he comes after me and I shoot him, MI law says I committed no crime. If I go to fight him and it results in me shooting him, then I committed a crime. In MI law I can use deadly force if: 1. I believe im in danger of great bodily harm 2. I believe my life is in danger 3. Defending myself from sexual assault (please hold the jokes).
op, to be honest, i guess you were fired up when you wrote that, but you sound like much more of a threat to society than the stalker
I dont do nuthin to no one that dont deserve it. If you just walk down the street and mind your business im harmless as a dove and you got nothing to fear from me.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
facko wrote:
Knuckle up man…seriously…when I first started dating my current girlfriend…her ex wouldn’t stop calling her etc and even came to my job …which I wasn’t there …but out of principle, I had to fight him for coming to my job to start shit.
No guns needed…just fight one on one…preferably at night…in a secluded parking lot…noone else there but you and him, so noone can stop it. Or you can be more mature than I and just confront him in a verbal non violent way. To be honest, I would have never let it slide as far as you did…no matter what the girl said…the first day he was out there I’d immediately go outside and be like WHAT THE FUCK IS UP?!
Yea but you can whoop someone ass and they can come back and retaliate, a gunshot puts an end to it all then and there. Plus, if he comes after me and I shoot him, MI law says I committed no crime. If I go to fight him and it results in me shooting him, then I committed a crime. In MI law I can use deadly force if: 1. I believe im in danger of great bodily harm 2. I believe my life is in danger 3. Defending myself from sexual assault (please hold the jokes).
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AND if you have no other alternative. The law wants you to remove yourself from the situation. But I guess that’s not a problem because you live in some primitive backwater where “snitching” gets you/your family/your property messed up, so im sure you wont have to be worried about getting caught
[quote]clip11 wrote:
Yea but you can whoop someone ass and they can come back and retaliate, a gunshot puts an end to it all then and there. Plus, if he comes after me and I shoot him, MI law says I committed no crime. If I go to fight him and it results in me shooting him, then I committed a crime. In MI law I can use deadly force if: 1. I believe im in danger of great bodily harm 2. I believe my life is in danger 3. Defending myself from sexual assault (please hold the jokes).
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Well I hope you’re not as vocal in real life about shooting someone in cold blood as you are on the internet. Otherwise there won’t be a legal loophole big enough to get you off a murder one charge.
Then you’ll really need to be packing heat, 'coz you’ll be in for a whole world of sexual assault in prison.
clip11, you do realise that when everyone takes matters into their own hand like you suggest thats called anarchy and is a fast downward spiral right?
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
clip11 wrote:
facko wrote:
Knuckle up man…seriously…when I first started dating my current girlfriend…her ex wouldn’t stop calling her etc and even came to my job …which I wasn’t there …but out of principle, I had to fight him for coming to my job to start shit.
No guns needed…just fight one on one…preferably at night…in a secluded parking lot…noone else there but you and him, so noone can stop it. Or you can be more mature than I and just confront him in a verbal non violent way. To be honest, I would have never let it slide as far as you did…no matter what the girl said…the first day he was out there I’d immediately go outside and be like WHAT THE FUCK IS UP?!
Yea but you can whoop someone ass and they can come back and retaliate, a gunshot puts an end to it all then and there. Plus, if he comes after me and I shoot him, MI law says I committed no crime. If I go to fight him and it results in me shooting him, then I committed a crime. In MI law I can use deadly force if: 1. I believe im in danger of great bodily harm 2. I believe my life is in danger 3. Defending myself from sexual assault (please hold the jokes).
AND if you have no other alternative. The law wants you to remove yourself from the situation. But I guess that’s not a problem because you live in some primitive backwater where “snitching” gets you/your family/your property messed up, so im sure you wont have to be worried about getting caught[/quote]
This new law doesnt they rewrote it in 2006. I dont have to remove myself if im anyplace that I have a lawful right to be.
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21869
http://legislature.mi.gov/(S(bjypanalnemu4njbolgmthjl))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-780-972
[quote]roybot wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Yea but you can whoop someone ass and they can come back and retaliate, a gunshot puts an end to it all then and there. Plus, if he comes after me and I shoot him, MI law says I committed no crime. If I go to fight him and it results in me shooting him, then I committed a crime. In MI law I can use deadly force if: 1. I believe im in danger of great bodily harm 2. I believe my life is in danger 3. Defending myself from sexual assault (please hold the jokes).
Well I hope you’re not as vocal in real life about shooting someone in cold blood as you are on the internet. Otherwise there won’t be a legal loophole big enough to get you off a murder one charge.
Then you’ll really need to be packing heat, 'coz you’ll be in for a whole world of sexual assault in prison.
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Not really, I know ppl whove been to prison, even had several uncles do time. The more violent your crime is, the more higher up on the totem pole you are.Even if someone can overpower you for the moment they arent likely to try if they know youll retaliate by murdering them. They would rather pick on someone who they know or believe wont retaliate violently.
[quote]roybot wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Yea but you can whoop someone ass and they can come back and retaliate, a gunshot puts an end to it all then and there. Plus, if he comes after me and I shoot him, MI law says I committed no crime. If I go to fight him and it results in me shooting him, then I committed a crime. In MI law I can use deadly force if: 1. I believe im in danger of great bodily harm 2. I believe my life is in danger 3. Defending myself from sexual assault (please hold the jokes).
Well I hope you’re not as vocal in real life about shooting someone in cold blood as you are on the internet. Otherwise there won’t be a legal loophole big enough to get you off a murder one charge.
Then you’ll really need to be packing heat, 'coz you’ll be in for a whole world of sexual assault in prison.
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Plus how can it be in cold blood if im attacked first? Its not like I just picked a target and went on a spree. Its just the fact that one thing I dont tolerate is another man putting his hands on me,no matter what I say or do, if I dont attack you physically, you have no reason to attack me physically. Plain and simple. If you dont ever do that you dont have a thing to worry about with me.
Im peaceful with ppl that are peaceful with me, but im not going to go out of my way to be peaceful with you when you show you want to be violent. I can cuss out your wife in front of you (not saying d randomly do it, it has to be for a reason), but if you put your hands on me you take your life into your own hands. I may or may not pull a trigger depending on how I feel at the moment, but I wouldnt gamble with it.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
roybot wrote:
Plus how can it be in cold blood if im attacked first? Its not like I just picked a target and went on a spree. Its just the fact that one thing I dont tolerate is another man putting his hands on me,no matter what I say or do, if I dont attack you physically, you have no reason to attack me physically. Plain and simple. If you dont ever do that you dont have a thing to worry about with me. [/quote]
When I say ‘cold blood’ I’m referring to the way you’re talking openly about shooting someone at the slightest provocation.
If you announce your intention to shoot someone before you do it, that’s considered premeditation, and there’s no way you can claim self-defense then, even if you’re attacked first.
That argument won’t stand up in a court of law if and when you do end up killing someone. You’ve already said that you were prepared to gun down you girl’s ex, even though he didn’t pose a physical threat to you or your ladyfriend. All he did was sit outside her house and phone her. You might not like it, but it’s no reason to kill the guy.
If you’re prepared to kill him for that, I wouldn’t exactly describe you as ‘peaceful’. Peaceful people don’t typically go around prepared for war.
You’re definitely a unique human being - a murderous pacificist.
Wow. Stupid thread.
Maybe I’ll start airing out all my fucking problems here on T-Nation.
After all, testosterone negates common sense.
Or maybe you just want everyone to know how bad-ass you are.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
I been messing with this woman since the beginning of summer, shes 3 years older than me (she’s 25 im 22).Just this past week an ex boyfriend of hers pop back up into the picture, but she dont want nothing to do with him. This guy is 31, too old to be acting lie this. Anyway he be sitting out watching her apartment and calling her phone 1000 times. So on Friday I go to pick her up and he was sitting out in the lot.
So she comes and gets into my car and we drive off and this guy follows us. I keep a 40 caliber pistol in my armrest and a 20 gage shotgun in my trunk. When i realized he was following us I wanted to pull into a gas station and hoped he would stop too so I could go put that guy in check, but the woman i was with didnt want me to and she wont tell me where her ex stays at, so I cant go over his house thats out.
Any tips on handling this legally and nonviolently?
Last time I was over there he was sitting out in the parking lot. I was ready to go out there and let off a few hollow points into his car, but she say it aint that serious and she dont want me to get locked up.[/quote]
Be very careful in this situation. I would notify the police and make sure you are legal if you need to carry a weapon. Forget about the shotgun, a concealed pistol looks more reasonable to me. having both seems to indicate you’re looking for trouble.
[quote]roybot wrote:
clip11 wrote:
roybot wrote:
Plus how can it be in cold blood if im attacked first? Its not like I just picked a target and went on a spree. Its just the fact that one thing I dont tolerate is another man putting his hands on me,no matter what I say or do, if I dont attack you physically, you have no reason to attack me physically. Plain and simple. If you dont ever do that you dont have a thing to worry about with me.
When I say ‘cold blood’ I’m referring to the way you’re talking openly about shooting someone at the slightest provocation.
If you announce your intention to shoot someone before you do it, that’s considered premeditation, and there’s no way you can claim self-defense then, even if you’re attacked first.
Im peaceful with ppl that are peaceful with me, but im not going to go out of my way to be peaceful with you when you show you want to be violent. I can cuss out your wife in front of you (not saying d randomly do it, it has to be for a reason), but if you put your hands on me you take your life into your own hands. I may or may not pull a trigger depending on how I feel at the moment, but I wouldnt gamble with it.
That argument won’t stand up in a court of law if and when you do end up killing someone. You’ve already said that you were prepared to gun down you girl’s ex, even though he didn’t pose a physical threat to you or your ladyfriend. All he did was sit outside her house and phone her. You might not like it, but it’s no reason to kill the guy.
If you’re prepared to kill him for that, I wouldn’t exactly describe you as ‘peaceful’. Peaceful people don’t typically go around prepared for war.
You’re definitely a unique human being - a murderous pacificist.
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If I wanted to do it it would be done! Since I dint do it then it doesnt matter. And for the record he did threaten me to her which made me respond the way I did.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
clip11 wrote:
I been messing with this woman since the beginning of summer, shes 3 years older than me (she’s 25 im 22).Just this past week an ex boyfriend of hers pop back up into the picture, but she dont want nothing to do with him. This guy is 31, too old to be acting lie this. Anyway he be sitting out watching her apartment and calling her phone 1000 times. So on Friday I go to pick her up and he was sitting out in the lot.
So she comes and gets into my car and we drive off and this guy follows us. I keep a 40 caliber pistol in my armrest and a 20 gage shotgun in my trunk. When i realized he was following us I wanted to pull into a gas station and hoped he would stop too so I could go put that guy in check, but the woman i was with didnt want me to and she wont tell me where her ex stays at, so I cant go over his house thats out.
Any tips on handling this legally and nonviolently?
Last time I was over there he was sitting out in the parking lot. I was ready to go out there and let off a few hollow points into his car, but she say it aint that serious and she dont want me to get locked up.
Be very careful in this situation. I would notify the police and make sure you are legal if you need to carry a weapon. Forget about the shotgun, a concealed pistol looks more reasonable to me. having both seems to indicate you’re looking for trouble.
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I usually keep the gage at home. But sometimes I take both of them to the range to fire so I have it on me.
[quote]roybot wrote:
clip11 wrote:
roybot wrote:
Plus how can it be in cold blood if im attacked first? Its not like I just picked a target and went on a spree. Its just the fact that one thing I dont tolerate is another man putting his hands on me,no matter what I say or do, if I dont attack you physically, you have no reason to attack me physically. Plain and simple. If you dont ever do that you dont have a thing to worry about with me.
When I say ‘cold blood’ I’m referring to the way you’re talking openly about shooting someone at the slightest provocation.
If you announce your intention to shoot someone before you do it, that’s considered premeditation, and there’s no way you can claim self-defense then, even if you’re attacked first.
Im peaceful with ppl that are peaceful with me, but im not going to go out of my way to be peaceful with you when you show you want to be violent. I can cuss out your wife in front of you (not saying d randomly do it, it has to be for a reason), but if you put your hands on me you take your life into your own hands. I may or may not pull a trigger depending on how I feel at the moment, but I wouldnt gamble with it.
That argument won’t stand up in a court of law if and when you do end up killing someone. You’ve already said that you were prepared to gun down you girl’s ex, even though he didn’t pose a physical threat to you or your ladyfriend. All he did was sit outside her house and phone her. You might not like it, but it’s no reason to kill the guy.
If you’re prepared to kill him for that, I wouldn’t exactly describe you as ‘peaceful’. Peaceful people don’t typically go around prepared for war.
You’re definitely a unique human being - a murderous pacificist.
Prepare for war in the time of peace. Did you know in MI with all the layoffs happening the requests for ccw’s skyrocketed because as ppl lose their jobs and bills go unpaid ppl are going to become more and more desperate. People are going to do things they didnt think theyd ever do or things they used to do they didnt think theyd go back to.
Im not announcing id shoot someone before id do it, thats stupid. They wouldnt even know im armed. Therefore not knowing, why would you try to be violently aggresive towards me. Now if youre saying I should be the one to back down, I wont if im in the right.
Like I said if I wanted to do it, I wouldve did it, but I didnt.
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Good to see you’re still working on your street cred clip. Your avatar is appropriate as well.
Instead of shooting the guy, why not just hit him over the head with a 140 lb dumbbell after a vigorous bench workout?
Oh wait, wrong thread…
[quote]clip11 wrote:
If I wanted to do it it would be done! Since I dint do it then it doesnt matter. [/quote]
It matters if you don’t want to spend the rest of your life in jail. Also, going around acting the way you do may very well end up with someone putting a bullet in you first.
You didn’t say anything about him making threats until now. A restraining order would be a far better solution to your problem than putting a bullet between his eyes.
Still, if your happy to use extreme violence to solve a problem that could be resolved otherwise, then go for it. It’s a choice that only you can make.