I have not found a direct carry over from my deadlifting to stone lifting.
While I am only a mediocore deadlifter I was able to lift the 230lb Atlas stone (completly round)with ease, up to the platform in a local contest,at a body weight of 188lbs.
While I am not stating that this is any great feat, it is far and away more impressive than a one time 405lb deadlift at the same body weight.
A 230 stone load is pretty light for a deadlift of 405. You should be able to do at least 265, and probably 285 with a 405 deadlift. But, there are other exercises that are also important. Your particular weekness will determine the most effective exercises to bring your stone lifting up.
i have found the opposite true though. the more i do the stones, the heavier my deadlift gets. the increased rom of the stones really targets those pesky low back fibers
by the way-i went to the NASS Nationals at myrtle beach this weekend. it seems that a Lightweight got ALL 10 Stones-INCLUDING THE 365!!!
Excuse me while i go cry in my beer, then it is off to the garage gym!
kirk weighed in at about 220-225, and I’m pissed because I was sure I would get the 365, having done the 370 easily a few weeks earlier. As far as the deadlift carryover with stones, I think as long as your willing to modify your deadlift technique, there isn’t a better exercise to help with stones. I’ve been deadlifting heavy for about a year, constantly being told that my 650 dead was a stiff leg, but after three months of strongman training I got the 370 stone. I owe it all to my deadlift, that “I’ve been doing wrong”?
Would deadlifting with a “shrug bar” be better than a straight bar if you are trying to raise your stone lifting strength?
With this bar you are forced to take a vertical, as opposed to a horizontal grip. You also stand over it which mimics the stone lift a bit closer.
Second question, it seems that T-Bar rowing would also help with stone lifting as you are also standing over the T-Bar in a similar fashion as the stone. And you also are able to take a vertical grip.
Zeb-There is a flaw in your calculation. In theory it works. However, the diameter of a 230 stone, as opposed to a 370 stone, is much smaller. Since the larger stone is so much more out in front of you, it becomes exponentially heavier.
Regarding the trap bar vs. straight bar, I would go with the straight bar. Again, the stone is out in front of you. The trap bar (shrug bar) allows you to keep the weight ver close to the center of gravity, very much unlike the stone lift.
Ahh, what a fertile mind…BUT, we have another problem! Leverages do not necesssarily improve with greater size/weight (though with greater height you do not need as much hip extension). As you get larger your waist gets larger (generally) and the stone is still further away from your center. Trust me, they get way heavier as the size increases. Brad and myself are both about your height too, 5’10, give or take.
Yes, maybe. But, at 6’5 my pull from the floor would be much more difficult. Just like deadlifting 650 for Brad would be much less do-able if he were pulling the off a 7" platform (I’d wager the weight wouldn’t leave the floor). In the case of the stone, if it doesn’t leave the floor then it’s impossible to load no matter how good your leverage is once you lap it. Height/weight increases don’t always help in certain lifts, strongman or otherwise. There are too many variables to single out one, be it height or DL ability.
True, I supposed it’s a parabolic curve, when at a certain point the leverages become less or more optimal.
Either way, get out there and takle a 265 or 285 stone for christ sake!