Well, this is not a max, going mainly for form, could anybody tell me if I am deadlifting correctly? And if there is something I can do to make it a superior form, could you please tell me?
A deadlift isnt a squat so dont try to get your legs to paralel.
Pull like that.
Hey man,
If you’re going to be pulling for lower reps, I suggest you get a video of you doing that. Most people have quite good form when pulling fresh and with a weight that is relatively light for them. Form tends to break down during the struggle.
That being said, I can’t exactly see what you’re wearing for shoes. Take a look at today’s “Cool Tip” for more info on that. Other than that, don’t sit in the bottom position for too long. Get your grip, dip your hips down and lift the weight. Hanging out in that squat position just likens the chance that your lower back will be rounded at the start of the lift.
Happy pullin’
-Matt
Yes, Im going to get some CT later, wearing vans right now -.- Harder soled than other shoes, with little support. Alright, Ill pull quicker, and wont try and go parallel. I’ll try and get another video of this on Wednesday.
[quote]n3wb wrote:
A deadlift isnt a squat so dont try to get your legs to paralel.
Pull like that.
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Tell Mikhail Koklyaev you aren’t supposed to get your legs to parallel. Although he’s not a powerlifter he is without a doubt one of the best deadlifters in the world. He goes right down into a clean starting position. That’s what works for him.
I realize that Andy Bolton is the world record holder, but different things work for different people. It could be argued that if Mikhail Koklyaev trained for deadlift only he would have a chance at breaking the record. If someone has strong enough legs, the lower they get the more they’ll recruit that power.
[quote]SlothGuy wrote:
n3wb wrote:
A deadlift isnt a squat so dont try to get your legs to paralel.
Pull like that.
Tell Mikhail Koklyaev you aren’t supposed to get your legs to parallel. Although he’s not a powerlifter he is without a doubt one of the best deadlifters in the world. He goes right down into a clean starting position. That’s what works for him.
I realize that Andy Bolton is the world record holder, but different things work for different people. It could be argued that if Mikhail Koklyaev trained for deadlift only he would have a chance at breaking the record. If someone has strong enough legs, the lower they get the more they’ll recruit that power.[/quote]
I assume you’re referring to this video,
If you watch the video again, you’ll notice that he doesn’t begin pulling the bar until his legs are at 45 degree angles, essentially the same position that Bolton pulls from.
In reference to his squatting down before the lift, he’s not statically maintaining a low squat position. At the bottom, it appears that he is completely resting his thighs on his calves, thus not wasting energy by keeping his hips up.
Also, his preparation for the pull might be different if he were not using straps. When using them, the lifter typically has to have his hands on the bar longer, so sitting down is one way to conserve energy, physically, and mentally prepare once your hands are “tied” to the bar.
There are people who may pull the way you were talking about and move good weight, but the above clip was not a good example of it.
-Matt
It looks like you hyperexted your back a bit.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
It looks like you hyperexted your back a bit.[/quote]
Okay, you mean the part at the end? where im pulling back?
I’m no expert (Cressey’s latest article made that clear to me…I had to watch a few of the videos over again because I missed the mistake the first time), but a few things I noticed:
The good part is your back stayed neutral during the concentric phase and it seemed like your arms weren’t bent although it was hard to tell.
The bar seems like it is too far away from your shins and your shoulders are over the bar when you start pulling, not behind the bar. (They actually were behind the bar, but right before the pull you leaned over.)
Your weight at the beginning of the pull is on the balls of your feet. You actually come up off of your heels. Keep your weight back and stay on your heels and I bet a lot of other problems will be solved as well.
It looks like you try to extend the back rather than extend the hips after the bar clears the knees. Focus on thrusting your pelvis forward rather than leaning back.
So weight on heels, extend hips. Worry about other stuff later.
Edit: I looked again and I don’t think you came up on the balls of your feet, part of your shoes are just the same color as the floor and I didn’t notice because I was looking at it frame by frame.
[quote]smallmike wrote:
I’m no expert (Cressey’s latest article made that clear to me…I had to watch a few of the videos over again because I missed the mistake the first time), but a few things I noticed:
The good part is your back stayed neutral during the concentric phase and it seemed like your arms weren’t bent although it was hard to tell.
The bar seems like it is too far away from your shins and your shoulders are over the bar when you start pulling, not behind the bar. (They actually were behind the bar, but right before the pull you leaned over.)
Your weight at the beginning of the pull is on the balls of your feet. You actually come up off of your heels. Keep your weight back and stay on your heels and I bet a lot of other problems will be solved as well.
It looks like you try to extend the back rather than extend the hips after the bar clears the knees. Focus on thrusting your pelvis forward rather than leaning back.
So weight on heels, extend hips. Worry about other stuff later.
Edit: I looked again and I don’t think you came up on the balls of your feet, part of your shoes are just the same color as the floor and I didn’t notice because I was looking at it frame by frame.[/quote]
Alright thanks, tomorrow i will be maxing my squat, ill post that and ill do another deadlift video with this new info, thank you very much.
You leaned forward at the beginning of your pull. That tells me you weren’t in your ideal “start” position to gop straight up. As you go up in weight that little lean can throw your line off and be a real limiting factor. An effective way of correcting this is to use light weight do a few reps…at the bottom of the second rep you’ll finds yourself in the proper starting position because your body will naturally come straight down with the weight…catch thast moment…“the end of the rep is the best position for the start of your next rep” Try to simulate that position and your gold. Good luck
You are at a significant disadvantage having to pull with those plates.
The fact that the weight rests on a flat surface makes breaking the floor by pulling back almost impossible. You pretty much have to pull straight up.
If you don’t have access to round plates at your gym, pull from the lowest pin height. This will help you to sit back better.
Regardless of hip height, etc. what you want to strive for is the hips always moving towards the bar. In your video you break the floor with upward hip travel.
You need to sit back more and drive the heels with your chest up. As soon as you feel the weight break the floor thrust your hips towards the bar.
so sort of like the first part of a clean? I do think we have some round plates at the gym, ill grab those next time.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
so sort of like the first part of a clean? I do think we have some round plates at the gym, ill grab those next time.[/quote]
Well, not really. Typically when we take on a new lifter who has been doing cleans for sports and not much deadlifting we have to unlearn the bending the arms thing and teach them to pull back instead of up.
One thing that will help you to sit back is curl your toes upward as you are setting up and don’t let them come down until you start to pull.
was maxing squat today, disappointed myself with 275(could of hit 285, but got greedy and went for 300, failed). Anyway, went deadlifting after that, found it hard to keep my shoulders behind the bar. Used the round plates, felt a bit nicer but decided to try and pull from pins.
Knocked the 45’s off, one was doing the flopping movement, and landed on my big toe, so that pissed me off, not being able to concentrate. Should be getting a movie on friday. If i cant get it down by then, i should be going to a powerlifter gym(American Iron), so hopefully I can get some help.