[quote]waelkd wrote:
French Foreign Legions are bad asses,the best i think[/quote]
Australian SAS have been the best for along time
Have they done anything on the mongols ? those guys were nuts
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
waelkd wrote:
French Foreign Legions are bad asses,the best i think
Well obviously…I mean…why wouldn’t they be the best. Plus those white hats are hardcore.[/quote]
lol. got nothing on Task Force 121.
lets get real here people
I am surprised that Navy Seals haven’t been added to the challenge, Lord knows they can do some damage.
Navy seals are over rated, Australian clearance divers ftw. I am so biased arnt I but we keep whipping your butts in the war games we have had so its hard not to be!
The show is entertaining, what drives me mad is the way the internet is plastered with people taking issue with all the mistakes and outcomes. The show is entertaining, but their criteria suck ass, the outcomes are often ridiculous. Watch it, enjoy it, be pissed off by the result if you want to be but don’t waste 20 minutes on youtube videos complaining about it.
(ya, I know)
IRA vs Taliban is coming up soon. As an Irishman I reckon it should be worth a few chuckles.
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
I hate the show. I enjoy seeing the damage done to the dummies and the weapon demos, but the rest of the show is just awful.
The “experts” are absolutely painful to listen to. They’re so fucking jazzed up about it and take everything personally…they remind me of the animal “experts” that were on a similar show about pitting different animals against each other.
The idea that they have “data” and run a thousand “simulations” is just fucking laughable as well, and don’t get me started on the battle they play out at the end.[/quote]
I just started watching it and caught 3 episodes on Spike’s site. My gripes are about the same as yours. I like the weapon demonstrations and the sensors tracking the speed/power of the hit to get an idea of the force used.
The experts got on my nerves going back and forth with each other, with the exception of the Maori vs Shaolin Monk. I also liked the mini history concerning fighting styles of the two as well, which were missing from the other eps I saw.
I also thought some sides should’ve been switched. Like have the Apache fight against the Maori.
[quote]shutupnlisten wrote:
IRA vs Taliban is coming up soon. As an Irishman I reckon it should be worth a few chuckles.[/quote]
they should do a comparison between the IRA and HEZBOLLA,they gave the ISRAELIES(4th strongest ARMY) hell during the 2006 WAR
William Wallace, 63% of the time. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
claymore > ostrich feathers
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am watching the Green Beret vs Spetnaz matchup, and its kinda funny. The Russians are doing somersaults and body rolls while shooting LOL. I was happy to see the Mafia beating the Yakuza 58% of the time. [/quote]
I couldn’t watch it when I found out all that happened. The green beret missing static targets from a few yards away? A long range weapon, Dragunov with a four MOA accuracy? What a piece of crap.
all that rolling around bullshit will get you killed.
I like the show, but as others said, the fact that they don’t take the physical size and strength of the warrior into question is a joke. A 6’ 200lb Viking who was raised on meat and fish is going to dominate a 5’4" 130lb Samurai who was raised on rice every fucking time. Same with comparing warriors armed with steel weapons vs. warriors with stoneage weapons.
On the other hand, I kind of like the cheesiness of the “experts” talking trash.
The Zulu got his ass handed to him by Wallace. That Claymore was probably the coolest weapon I’ve seen yet on the show. A bit surprised though that the ball and chain sucked so badly.
I wonder about next week…IRA vs. Taliban. How are they going to get a Taliban “expert”? I think there might be passport/border issues to consider…LOL.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
The Zulu got his ass handed to him by Wallace. That Claymore was probably the coolest weapon I’ve seen yet on the show. A bit surprised though that the ball and chain sucked so badly.
I wonder about next week…IRA vs. Taliban. How are they going to get a Taliban “expert”? I think there might be passport/border issues to consider…LOL.[/quote]
True, haha! I don’t think these guys always get it right.
Yakuza vs Mafia,a nd Mafia uses a molotov cocktail? why not good ole dynamite. Beats a balc powder grenade anyday. And there’s the old car bomb thing.
And the Sten being accurate? Every gun guy knows the Sten was a cheap easy to make pos and nowhere near a tommy gun, even the the tommy won.
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
The idea that they have “data” and run a thousand “simulations” is just fucking laughable as well[/quote]
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Hated it. [/quote]
The Apache was the worst.
host of the show asks “what arrow do you prefer”
Apache answers “Whichever goes through your heart”
It’s a friggin tv show. You don’t need to act like a badass.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I like the show, but as others said, the fact that they don’t take the physical size and strength of the warrior into question is a joke. A 6’ 200lb Viking who was raised on meat and fish is going to dominate a 5’4" 130lb Samurai who was raised on rice every fucking time. Same with comparing warriors armed with steel weapons vs. warriors with stoneage weapons.
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i think it is assuming that all physical attributes of the warriors are equal, to compare the weaponry and skill rather than size and strength.
Why didn’t they put Army Delta Force against Spetznaz? In any case, in real life the Green Berets would win.
And the “Green Berets” they got for the show were a joke. Missing a stationary target with a 9mm is just sad. Any Green Beret worth his salt would be packing a 1911 .45 ACP anyways, not some shitty 9mm girly gun. An M-4 Carbine? What a joke, that’s standard infantry crap. Special Forces use what ever rifle they feel will get the job done and it sure as shit ain’t gonna be some .223 varmint round. I’m tired of pussies not able to handle the recoil of .308s. If you can’t handle a .308, then you don’t have any business soldiering in the U.S. Army, especially if you’re SF.
Haha the Maori “Warrior” was amusing to watch. I wouldn’t take something like that seriously on a battlefield, especially when they’re doing that stupid cheer leading chant… and of course the classic 2 year old tongue protrusion… Nyaaahhh!!! Neener neener neener! I’d be embarassed to claim Maori heritage after seeing that.
Wanna know what’s even more pathetic? During the fight with the Monk and Cannibal… The Monk made a critical error in the opening engagement, whereas if it would have been in real life… The Maori would have killed the Monk and had himself some Chinese Take out for dinner. Hahaha. So much for thousands of years of training…
Pirate vs. Knight? Are you kidding me? How is that even remotely fair? Everyone knows a gun will pwn a sword. Take the gun away from the pirate and see what happens.
Oh boy, this one was the worst… Viking vs. Samurai this is face-palm material. Everyone seems to think Vikings were just some big slow innacurate brainless brute, when infact, they were smarter than anyone else in that age when it came to tactics and technology. How is a Katana faster than a longsword? It weighs about 2 1/2 pounds and the longsword weighs 3 pounds. A mere half a pound more and the Viking is only using one hand as opposed to two.
Sword technique for the Vikings has been around longer than that of the Samurai. I didn’t see the Viking using his shield like the Spartan did, which all Vikings who had shields used it offensively and defensively. Ont he show he just sorta held it infront of him… And a Viking isn’t going to throw his shield down after it gets a little damage. Vikings made their shields out of wood specifically so when a weapon such as a sword, axe or even a club hit it, it would get stuck in the shield and give the Viking an oppurtunity to give his opponent a death blow.
lmao… ok what ever… How is a 5’ 140lbs man going to knock a 6’4 200lbs man around with a stupid stick? A historically accurate Viking would have bashed his shield against the club using his superior strength and size to counter the attack and plow the samurai like a bull dozer and gone in for a gut stab.
They argue the Samurai is just so quick and has accurate technique, okay… well… I didn’t see any of that in the battle… most of the time the samurai was trying to use brute force against… a Viking… >_>… The Vikings were masters of the sword and were notorious for making extremely well ballanced blades.
People didn’t fear them because they sucked and didn’t know how to fight. People feared them because they usually had smaller numbers and still managed to kill their opponents with relative ease. They are infact the only warrior culture where such a high number of cities have just given up when they had word of the Viking’s arrival. Another thing, the Vikings covered more ground than the Samurai did, therefore fought many different types of warriors of different cultures. The samurai only fought samurai.
How about Berserkers? Men who were so ferocious and skilled in battle that they wore NOTHING in combat. No shirt, pants or armor of any kind. Just their weapon. Anyways… Don’t get me wrong, I’m a pretty big fan of the Samurai too… but when it comes down to Viking vs. Samurai… the Viking has a better chance of winning. (Fights won usually depend on the fighter, but the Vikings clearly had an advantage over the Samurai.) I believe in all reality, the only true match for a skilled Viking Warrior, would be a Templar.
A computer can’t tell who is gonna win a battle. The only way to find this out would be to have an actual REAL spar. I can tell you right now, If you gave me some chainmail, a Viking Shield and Longsword and put me up against a samurai with a katana… I’m gonna have me-self some fun… Hell… just give me a Dane Axe and I’ll still pwn that little jap with his stupid two handed saber.
i agree with drakkar viking, there was even a viking contingent in the byzantium royal bodyguard!
and that show is a bunch of crap anyway. blunderbuss and knights? not even the same time period!
Heh. And I wonder why they chose Vikings for the Royal Bodyguard. Fact of the matter is, so many people don’t know shit about Viking culture. Not all of them went around raping and killing who ever. You had your assholes and then you had your good guys, just like any other culture. When watching the Viking vs. Samurai, the Samurai wannabe acted like Samurai never did anything wrong when infact, they actually bullied peasants around and expected everyone to bow before them. They acted as if Vikings never thought or calculated, which if false.
If you didn’t show a Samurai respect, alot of times they would kill you or try. Also, you had to be born into the Samurai class, whereas a Viking earned his status through proving himself in combat. If you bumped into a Viking on accident and if you apologized right after, most of them would accept it and go on about their business. A Samurai on the other hand, would not be so forgiving, they were not very nice people, I’m sure some were… But there were quite a few bad apples.
As far as killing women and children go… It was considered EXTREMELY dishonorable to kill an un-armed opponent or someone who was not a match for them. Vikings were skilled in Archery but bows were looked down upon. They would have considered the Samurai to be dishonorable if they were aware of the Samurai practicing seppaku simply because they couldn’t man up to the fact that they had failed or made a mistake. The Vikings would have been disgusted by this behavior and would have considered the Samurai to be savage and barbaric.
Vikings and Knights OWN Samurai 6 ways from Sunday Bwaha!