Dead Bodybuilders: An Autopsy Report

100% correct.
Get a job offer in a country where I don’t know the language, the culture is 180 degrees different from my own, I don’t know anyone, and I don’t completely know the details of the job? Sure! Been there, done that and would do it again. Pack up and drive 18 hours to a job I’m not certain that I’ve got. Step out on prayer and faith? Yep, did that too.
But jump out of an airplane? Voluntarily? I don’t understand why I’d even consider it.

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As we used to say in the Navy, “Keep your head on a swivel”

Yep. There are a lot of odd happenings that the mainstream media and the power structure (together known as the matrix) is working very hard to either distract us from or get us to ignore.

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Wow… now that’s brave. I wouldn’t want either but I’d pick plane over that. Bravo.

Not really

There are too many studies, meta analysis (highest level of validity re hierarchy of evidence) etc looking at the safety of + long term effects of covid shots.

Yes… they’re riskier than many vaccines… but quantatively those risks are still vanishingly small.

To look to the tiny minority of anti vax doctors and weigh their discredited (with valid scientific theory) evidence as being equally valid relative to that of scientifically proven principles is disingenuous and conspiracy like.

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Literally what Andrew Tate’s followers (and anyone residing on fringe spectrums of the political compass) always say

“It’s the matrix! It’s tyranny!” Meanwhile most who perpetuate this BS actually promote tyrannical ideologies and censorship.

So many armchair experts nowadays.

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And at the end of this discussion, not ONE mind was changed.

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Not sure if this side track was supposed to be moved somewhere else, but I will ask my question:

Why do you characterize the vaccine as gene therapy? When you saw the claim made, did you attempt to check it’s veracity by looking at other sources?

When I employ my google skills to research the question, sites that I consider credible all say that it is factually incorrect to characterize the vaccine as gene therapy. For example, this comes from a site that exists to educate health care workers and the public on issues related to genomic medicine, Here is their response to your claim:

Development of COVID-19 vaccines utilizing gene therapy technology

Their vaccine, NVX-CoV2373, is a recombinant nanoparticle vaccine composed of trimeric full-length SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoproteins and adjuvant.

https://academic.oup.com/intimm/article/33/10/521/6194108

Head of Pharma at Bayer admits that the mRNA vaccines are gene therapy

https://rumble.com/vwg9b5-head-of-pharma-at-bayer-admits-that-the-mrna-vaccines-are-gene-therapy.html?fbclid=IwAR3POEzhEMSYtOBQEp-O1kq7hSEe_uQPvckp_wz6_LC5shhRQsPMvPCTPbE

Researchers at two Harvard-affiliated hospitals are adapting a proven form of gene therapy to develop a coronavirus vaccine, which they expect to test in people later this year, they announced on Monday.

COVID mRNA Vaccines are a Form of Gene Therapy

Posted on 01/25/2021

https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/83947/covid-mrna-vaccines-are-a-form-of-gene-therapy/amp

Except this is a deliberately disingenuous statement. If it isn’t deliberately disingenuous (via creators of the video you’ve linked), then these people don’t understand basic maths, statistics or epidemiology.

Vaccination status of cases, hospitalisations | covid19data.com.au

The death rate per capita (per 100,000) for those with 0 doses is as of late 2022 24.54 per 100,000. With one dose it is 4/100,000 (one dose is intermediary between getting two doses), with two doses it is 40.04/100,000, for 3 doses it is 29.81/100,000 and for 4 doses it is 1.6 per 100,000.

If someone doesn’t think about epidemiological concepts they’d say “more vaccinated people are dying and that’s that”.

New COVID-19 data shows unvaccinated have ‘triple’ the risk of death compared with fully jabbed - ABC News

Except NINETY SIX percent of the Australian population aged 16+ has had two doses. The death rate of the unvaccinated is roughly 40% lower than those who are vaccinated… Yet they comprise four percent of the population. They are far, far more likely to die from covid. The reason the per capita statistics are skewed towards vaccinated people dying more often is because there are 20x more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people.

If vaccines really didn’t work, you’d see a mortality rate somewhere around 20x lower for unvaccinated Australian’s. Anyone who doesn’t get this doesn’t understand basic maths. If vaccines were causing more deaths, you’d see an even higher disparity… This is not the case…

Except Vaccination numbers and statistics | Australian Government Department of Health and Aged Care

The reason bitchute isn’t a reliable source 90% of the time is BECAUSE there is no vetting process to combat misinformation. People can harp on all they want about censorship, but the distinct and total lack of censorship allows for misinformation to be published and pushed en masse.

There’s a reason why anti vaccine videos are continually pushed on bitchute… that’s because bitchute is one of the last surviving media outlets that has absolutely no moderation. This enables those who reside on fringe spectrums to take up use of the platform (similar to parlor… which is an outlet for predominantly the alt-right). I can go on bitchute and publish whatever the hell I want to publish. Bitchute has legitimate content, but there’s also so much bullshit that I outright avoid linking bitchute in debates because the website is seen as something of a joke BECAUSE it hosts so much conspiracy content. Chances are I can prove my point without resorting to bitchute and if I can’t… there’s a good chance I’m into far left or far right dynamics and conspiracy theories.

Almost everyone I’ve ever met who continually posts bitchute abides by the “We are trapped in the matrix” ideology and “everyone else just doesn’t see what I see” dogmas.

At which point the question begs… is it really the matrix trying to stifle someone’s voice? Or is there a reason as to why deliberate misinformation akin to the video you’ve linked has been censored on other platforms?

Inb4 someone responds “but youtube also hosts some bullshit”. Yes it does… however when bullshit is posted on youtube it is typically met with immense backlash, conspiracy theories on bitchute tends to be met with praise because of the demographic the platform overwhelmingly tends to accomodate. Depends what battles one wants to pick.

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So your saying the whole video and anything else posted on Bitchute is misinformation?

Even if you can criticise some elements of his approach, it doesn’t dismiss, the rest of the information,/propaganda and gaslighting from the media and the govt. Quotes from the Horse’s mouth and not conveniently forgotten by people that still have at least half a brain.

The censoring that occurred on other platforms wasn’t based on science either. they didn’t even look at the issues,nor did they have the time to assess them. They automatically banned everything that didn’t agree with pro vax, or asked inconvenient questions. Lock step all the way from official sources.

Misinformation has been so abused as a term in the last couple of years. Straight from Orwell’s 1984, Ministry of Truth style. Just like Ardern’s " we are your sole source of Truth." Its a broad theme, covid/vax is only one of many, instances that gaslighting about misinformation has been used on. Its the basic operating system of those that say they represent us, in politics, and the media. They just want to have control over everything you do.

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There are some things you just can’t say. Publicly, privately or otherwise.

That is one of them. The blowback of a claim like that could be hurricane like.

So you just don’t do that.

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What excuses…if it makes you feel better then go for it…the facts still remain that steroids kill and so does couch potatoes.

So whats your endgame with this campaign of yours?

Like, lets say “You’re right! Oh no!” and five years from now we have and unimaginably bad, phantasmogoric worst case scenario, a body count in the billions. Like >50% of the earths population is wiped out.

Then what?

Are you going to stand on a mountain of billions of bodies and raise your hands in victory?

Proclaim the fact that you told everybody on the internet that would listen all about it?

Flesh it out for us, once and for all. What do you want this to be?

Then, for gods sake, just shut the fuck up.

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You are twisting my words here…

And you are proving my point with what I said about linking bitchute and concommitant “we live in the matrix” viewpoints.

You are using sampleship bias in a field where immunologists and scientists overwhelmingly disagree with you (experts who aren’t bound by the constructs of university politics to begin with) are presenting.

You’ve also done nothing to refute my counterarguement about your covid vax death rate fiasco being untrue.

Blanket statements of your opinion with no scope or supporting facts are basically as worthless to this conversation as you probably are in the gym. Just joined and this is your first post? What real handle are you hiding?