Yup, those were the Livespill days with the introduction of Indigo-3G and eventually the Indigo Project. That was a blast!
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Great timing then! That weight gain is strange btw! Have you been low carb prior?
I meant to post that fisrt post on the Surge thread but realised i was still on your log.
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Not at all, actually. Weight has been 229-231 last two weeks. I haven’t taken creatine in a few years, can’t remember if that’s in Surge Workout Fuel? My calories have been between 2,500 and 2,800, which now I’m just shy of 4,000.
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6/15
Day 2
Shoulders pump
Overhead bar hang 40 seconds
Lateral raises 10x20lbs
Upright Row 10x115lbs
Stimulate
BB OH Press 10x115lbs - Absolutely brutal
DB Lateral Raise 10x20lbs - The slow eccentric was killer
Farmer’s Walk - 75lbs each arm (most the gym has)
BB Shrug - 225lbs
Flutter
Lateral Raises 15lbs - 60 seconds… My thoughts: this isn’t too bad > oh wow, this starts to hurt > F 15 more seconds
Lats
Pump
BB Row 8x185
Darden Pullover 8x50
Sup. Lat Pulldown 8 reps
Stimulate
Darden Pullover 8x50lbs - Probably should do more
Flutter
Darden Pullover 50lbs for 20 seconds
Biceps
Pump
NG Curl 8x60lbs
Chin up - I don’t know how the hell I could do these after doing lats before. I did controlled negatives
WG BB Curl 8x60
Stimulate
Zotterman Curls 10x25lbs
Hammer Curls 10x20lbs
Curl 10x20
Flutter
Curls pink dbs (15lbs) for 60 seconds
Calves - were a bit tricky. I don’t have machines, so did BBs
Pump
Seated BB Raises 12x225
Standing BB Raises 12x225
Slow Standing BB Raises 12x225
Stimulate
Leg Curl, Toes Pointed 8 reps
Standing Calf Raises 12x225
Flutter
Calf Raises 225lbs for 30 seconds
Woke up this morning with biceps and shoulders super sore. Getting more efficient in gym.
Leftover Chinese food from lunch. Put a cup of rice on top after. Any guesses on calories?
Post workout pump - Need to lean out soon. My arms have less than definition than gender does.
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Wife surprised me this morning with dinner plans and baby sitter tonight. I’m finishing a work event week, so can’t get off early to workout. Naturally, I can’t just say ‘sorry honey, have to hit the gym tonight’… so, I’ll get after it tomorrow.
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6/18
Surge workout #3. I’ll post workout in morning. Got to gym around 930 and too tired to type. The pump was almost as good as the lighting.
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Ya… sorry. Three day weekend followed by redeye flight back to Oregon… exhausted, more on that later.
6/18
Pump
Incline BB Bench 10x155
DB Fly 10x35s
Bands 10 seconds
Pushups 10
Stimulate
Incline Bench 10x135
Flutter
Incline Bench 20 seconds of pain
Pump
NG Curl 8x60lbs
Chin up negatives 10
WG BB Curl 8x60
Stimulate
Zotterman Curls 10x25lbs
Hammer Curls 10x20lbs
Curl 10x20
Flutter
15lbs for 60 seconds
Pump
Tricep Pressdown 10 reps
Dips 10 reps
Tricep Pressdown 10 reps
Stimulate
OH Tricep Ext 8x50lbs -Waaay to brutal
OH Tricep Ext 8x40lbs
Flutter
OH Tricep Ext 20 secs with 40lbs
Pump
Wide Leg Press 8 Reps
Narrow Leg Press 8 Reps
Med Leg Press 8 reps
Stimulate
Sissy Squat 10x135 - F*ck. This was brutal
Flutter
Sissy Squat 20 seconds w/135
Felt sick after legs. This workout was brutal.
6/20
6am Sand Volleyball for 1.5 hours
6/21
Had to take two days off after 6/18 workout, then caught a flight back to Oregon and didn’t get home until 1:30am (PDT), 3:30am CDT, and fell asleep after 2am (4am in my head). Then, had to get up and get to work early. 
Pump
BB Row 8x185
Darden Pullover 8x50
Sup. Lat Pulldown 8 reps
Stimulate
Darden Pullover 8x50lbs
Flutter
Darden Pullover 50lbs for 20 seconds
Pump
Tricep Pressdown 10 reps
Dips 10 reps
Tricep Pressdown 10 reps
Stimulate
OH Tricep Ext 8x50lbs -Waaay to brutal
OH Tricep Ext 8x40lbs
Flutter
OH Tricep Ext 20 secs with 40lbs
Forearms and Calves after.
Couple of notes/Thoughts:
- I haven’t had a bad workout while using Surge
- The pump is great every workout
- I had no business doing that Chest/leg workout on 6/18. I felt so depleted afterwards and next morning.
- Yesterday’s workout was dumb. I didn’t eat well, was way too tired and had no motivation. After the first Tricep exercise I felt the pump and was zoned in.
- Might be too early to say, but based on above, I likely won’t workout again without Surge. If it does nothing beyond making every workout productive and able to get a good pump it’s beyond worth it. I’m too old and busy to push through like I did 10 years ago.
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How are you feeling about overall back development on this style of training? Are you seeing the progress you were hoping to?
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It might be too early to tell, I’m 5 workouts in. Back was the area I initially was concerned wouldn’t be enough volume or movements to target the whole back. I trust Darden to put together a complete program, and honestly, my back has felt pretty full. My lat pump has been better than anything I’ve experienced. I’ll likely repeat this training for 2 cycles and assess the movement selection and possibly change out pullovers with another back movement.
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6/23
Workout #5 was brutal. I’m at my home gym this week (which is my AirBnB house) so don’t have access to leg press. Instead to Zercher Squats.
Pump
Zercher Squat 8x135
Goblet Squat 8x52.5lbs
Zercher Squat 8x135
Stimulate
Zercher Squat 10x135 - ok, absolutely brutal on the negatives and holding bottom half for 10 seconds at first and last rep
Flutter
Goblet Squats for 20 seconds
Pump
Incline Bench 10x175
DB Flies 10x35lbs
Bands 10 reps
Pushups 11 reps
Stimulate
Incline Bench 9x135 - failed the last rep. Embarrassing! ha
Flutter
Incline Bench 20 seconds with 95lbs - I was smoked
Pump
NG Curl 8x65lbs
Negative Chines 8 reps
WG Curl 8x65lbs
Stimulate
DB Zott Curl 10x25
Hammer Curl 10x25
DB Curl 10x15
Flutter
DB Curl AMRAPx15lbs
Forearms
Combination of legs and chest was incredibly difficult. I threw up in my mouth after doing the legs. The short rest and holding the position was unlike my normal rests and lazy lifting. haha. My 4y/o woke me up around 2am and I stood up and nearly fell, my legs were weak and sore.
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Yep. I have found it’s challenging to find that correct weight, because if you miss it too light the workouts are not challenging enough. But adding even a small amount too much (which still seems light compared to typical workouts for many of us) means throwing up in your mouth. Luckily I haven’t done that. Today I swapped out the thighs and calves block for olympic lifting and front squats, and did the chest/ shoulders block as prescribed. I liked that approach.
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It’ll be fun to play with this type of training when challenge is done. I’ve never done anything like this and it has my head spinning with ideas. Hang Cleans are something I really like doing and might incorporate.
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6/25 - #6
Pump | Sissy Front Squat 10x95lbs, DB RDL 8x105lbs, Sissy front Squat 10x95lbs
Stimulate | Sissy Front Squat 10x95lbs - Absolute Torture
Flutter | Goblet Squat 25x52.5lb DB
Pump | 40 second hang, Lat Raises 10x25lbs, DB Upright Row 10x40lbs
Stimualte | BB OH Press 10x95lbs, DB Lat Raises 10x20lb, DB Farmer Walk, DB Shrugs
Flutter | DB Lateral Raises AMRAPx15lbs
Pump | BB Bench 10x155lbs, DB Fly 10x35lbs, Bands 10 reps, Pushups 12
Stimulate | BB Bench 10x135lbs
Flutter | BB Bench 18x105
Calfs | admittedly just very repetitive raises as I don’t have much equipment
Legs, Shoulders and Chest was a lot. Especially the way I did legs. I did this in the morning, then threw my cowboy boots on and went to a wedding for 12 hours. My legs were sore af.
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A little behind. Missing logging my favorite workout bis/tris/lats/forearms. Such a good pump.
Was supposed to do workout 8 yesterday, but will have to do it tomorrow. Yesterday and today have been terrible on my allergies. Headaches, plugged ears, congested and burning eyes. Essentially, can’t hear, see, breathe or smell well.
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Hey Chris, looking forward to seeing your results on the program. It looks like you’re no less of a busy man than when I was caught up on your logs 1+yr(s) ago, but still finding a way to get the work in. I hope all is well!
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haha I might be lying to myself when I say my life is getting simpler. My job is much simpler, max of 45 hours a week and work from home.
We should be finalizing adoption of our three kids this year, which will allow us to put my previous state in the rear-view mirror. Until then, I have to fly back every other month. Although, I have go back next month now to testify in a trial. Somehow I’ve maintained my ‘looks like he lifts while wearing a shirt’ physique. I’m in a good rhythm now and hope to look good shirtless, especially with out much time I’m spending at the pool.
7/5 - Alright, feeling much better. About 7 days of intense allergies. First time my eyes don’t burn and ears aren’t completely useless with pressure.
On 7/1 I did the arms/lats/forearms workout and felt incredible. I’ll get to workout 8 tonight and back in routine. I’ve been drinking Surge throughout and ready to get after it again. Also happy to see more workouts dropped. I’m going to keep this going as long as I there are workouts dropping.
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Did you finish your house?
Shoulders pump
Overhead bar hang 40 seconds
Lateral raises 10x25lbs
Upright Row 10x50lb DBs
Stimulate
BB OH Press 10x115lbs -
DB Lateral Raise 10x15lbs
Farmer’s Walk - 75lbs each arm (most the gym has)
BB Shrug - 225lbs
Flutter
Lateral Raises 15lbs - 60 seconds
Pump
WS Leg Press 10
NS Leg Press 10
MS Leg press 10
Stimulate
Goblet squat 10x75lb - switched it up to get a deep slow and controlled squat
Flutter
Goblet squat
Pump
Incline BB Bench 10x175 - 20 more lbs than normal
DB Fly 10x35s
Pushups 5 - made up for benching here
Stimulate
Incline Bench 10x135
Flutter
Incline Bench 20 seconds
Pump
Seated BB Raises 12x225
Standing BB Raises 12x225
Slow Standing BB Raises 12x225
Stimulate
Leg Curl, Toes Pointed 8 reps
Standing Calf Raises 12x225
Flutter
Calf Raises 225lbs for 30 seconds
Felt good to get back in the gym. Legs showed more tear drops while squatting which was cool.
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A bit more on this, yesterday was a prime example of a typical day.
12:30am - Bed
7:50am - woke up (naturally)
7:52am - work
10:00am - breakfast - two eggs, two toast, one with avocado one with mixed nut butter
10:15am - work
2:00pm - quick lunch, assorted meats, cheese, bread with mix nut butter
2:05pm - work
3:30pm - pool with kids
5:00pm - made dinner | 1lb Ground bison, 1.5cp rice and cauliflower
6:00pm - kids relaxing before bed and back to work
8:30pm - watch some tv and build furniture for wife
11:00pm - read
12:00am - asleep
Also sipped on Surge (1.8L) and a flavored water mix (1.8L).
Today will mostly be the same, except have a meeting from 5:30-6:00pm today. Then will go to gym around 8:30pm for Lats, Bis, Tris and Chest… not sure there is a better ego workout.
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