Dchris's Grappling with Age

Monday………..

Cold Plunge for 5 minutes. It was cold this morning, sub 50F outside.

Pullups - 3x3+25lbs

Mid-Day BJJ

  • Just me at class again
  • Worked back attacks, if opponent doesn’t fall to a side.
  • Rolled with my coach twice. First round was a playful, sweep, invert and roll round. Second was a bit more serious, but still flow’y. I ended up passing his guard via butterfly sweep, with two undercooks. I was able to shelf the arm as part of the sweep and went for the Darce. He defended it, so went NS choke. It was tight, and was hurting his shoulder, but could tell he would toughen it out. So, held the arm and sat him up. Threw the leg over his head, then my other leg over his body and got the armor.
  • Sad day tho.. this will likely be last week of midday class. It’s just me coming consistently and with wrestling season starting shortly, it’s not worth his time to just train me.. which leads me to needing to find a new school. :confused:
  • I’ll still take my kids there, because I really like him as a coach and the gym. It’s just a business decision.. and my schedule doesn’t work with his night classes, except for Tuesday. I’ll try and workout a deal where I coach Tuesdays for my kids classes so I can continue going to 10 round Tuesday… but, now I’m starting over again with a new gym, if I can find one that works schedule wise. Only other gym that has midday is 30 minutes away. MWF it’s from 1230-2 and T/TR from 1130-1. I could reasonably make T/TR, maybe. Gonna try it out this week..
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Ten round Tuesday

  • Small group. Only five other people as the main large brown belt is out of town. That caused 4 people to skip.
  • Got some good subs, but didn’t try too hard. 2 of the others weight less than 140 and one of the other three was a woman who rightfully didn’t want a round with me.

Thursday Night

High incline bench

10x10x135

Tricep pulldown

100 reps

  • Checked out a new gym on Friday. I’ll give it a run. Not much choice as it’s really only one I can reasonably make. It’s a Gracie name school, so interviewed the main coach a bit. He was cool with me cross training and wearing my own unbranded gear. Only thing I didn’t ask was whether belt promotions require testing. If it does, I’ll never bother.
  • Had a bit of a cold lately so haven’t trained last few days. If it wasn’t for shortness of breath, I’d get something in but walking up steps gets heart rate up and breathing hard.
  • I’ll try and get back in tonight. Then 10 round Tuesday on Tuesday, new gym on Wednesday and Friday. I’m going to keep kids at same place, I just can’t make it work for my schedule.
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Sunday night

Pull-ups

10BW, 3x3x25lbs, 8BW

KB Rows

3x15x60lb KB

Lateral Raises

3x15

Cable Curls

3x15

Monday Morning

515 wake-up and 37F cold plunge. Was also 37F outside

Pull-ups

3x10

KB Farmer Carry

3 sets of 2x Down and up driveway x 60lb KB in each hand

KB Rows

3x20x60lbs

  • Feeling really agile with pull-ups, I could probably easily do a muscle up if the curling was tall enough. Pull-ups are very easy, using wide grip and pulling my body back and then up with lats
  • Need to push more agility work for lower body. Legs are feeling slightly clunky
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Tuesday Morning

Cold Plunge: 37F, outside temp 39F

Pullups 3x10

Med Ball OHP 3x10

OH Raises 3x25x25lb

Med Ball Farmer Carry 120yards up/down hill with 150lb ball

Pullups 1x14

  • Good Morning Workout, felt strong and got after it
  • Might do some OHP work with the barbell tonight. I’d like to knock out Grace, but I really don’t think my wrists can handle cleans
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Tuesday Night

Seated OHP: 10x135, 5x155, 3x1x175

Sauna: 20 minutes

  • Couldn’t make 10 round Tuesday due to late night meeting
  • Somewhat happy with pressing. For some reason barbell OHP makes my triceps and shoulders ache really bad when I rack the weight. The pain goes away after a minute or two, but usually have to stretch my back after each set. It doesn’t happen with DBs, cables, KB or med ball presses. I may put a pause on it for awhile. @T3hPwnisher, have you ever experienced this?
  • I’ve cleaned up diet and feeling pretty good on that end. It took me a few weeks to get to this point, but replaced carbs with protein. I have been eating the most carbs for the day in the morning, which is where my trouble has been. Essentially by 830a, I was getting very weak and a bit nauseous. Then lunch and dinner are protein and veggie with ninja creami at night. The creami is about 56 grams of protein and 10 grams of fat, with negligible carbs.
  • I can’t make bjj class today, so will have to leave it to Friday.
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When you say “when I rack the weight”, do you mean when it’s in the rack position on your clavicles, or when you put the bar back in the rack?

Happy to hear about the nutritional front.

Ahh, sorry. When I put weight back on rack.

I haven’t experienced it with my triceps and shoulders but I HAVE experienced it with my hips when it comes to squatting. I’d be just fine unracking and squatting the weight, but when I returned it to the rack I’d be in agony. I figured that the weight was compressing something in my spine, and the rapid unloading of that weight was rapid decompressing triggering some sort of nerve pain. You having to stretch your back is similar to the fix I had: I’d hang from my chinning bar between sets.

I’d suspect this speaking to some sort of pinched nerve in the vertebrae or somewhere in your system. Less that the pressing is causing the issue, and more that it’s revealing it.

I wonder if a standing press would cause similar issues.

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I could certainly see this being the case.

I’ll give this a try, and then try with seated DB presses to see if sitting causes it. It’s funny, now that you say that, I stand for cable, KB, DB and med ball presses, but sit for barbell. Similarly, all my benching is at an angle, relieving my hips/spine of the pressure.

Makes sense, appreciate the insight. It’s now clear why my OHP sucks. :wink:

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Wednesday Night

Farmers carries down and up hill, wearing 40lb vest and 60lb kb in each hand. I measured it out to be 100 yards down and back up the hill.

  • I walked down and tried to ‘run’ up. Which is more like a fast walk, as I don’t really know that you can run with an extra 160lbs.
  • I did it three times
  • Not sure what was worse, the burning in my lungs or weakness in my legs as I got halfway up the hill.
  • BW was 241 when I did this. So equivalent of a 400lb man doing hill sprints
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Thursday - Went a concert with wife and some friends. Decided to take day off.

Friday - Went to new gym.

  • Good instruction on lasso sweeps from 4 stripe brown belt. The owner was out of town and arrived while we were doing live rounds
  • Live rounds were good. I did two rounds, I missed first two to go over rules and sign waiver
  • Rules were good and interesting. Firstly was the basic don’t rip subs, be kind, no ego, etc. Roger that. I’m good there. The next was no leg locks on white belts. Roger. Then, only the catch for leg locks on blue belts. No finishing the sub. All leg subs are on table. Hmm.. whatever. I’ll just knee bar purple belts then.
  • We had to bow in before class. I completely fucked this up. Being new, I went to end of line. Then people awkwardly rearranged around me until someone grabbed me and pulled me to the middle where blue belts with stripes were
  • Loved the music choice: Slightly Stoopid. Also rounds are 6 minutes
  • First round was a bigger 4 stripe blue belts. I just sat to guard and reacted for four minutes to defend and retain. With a few minutes left I started setting up chois. I took 3 runs at it but he locked up his arms when I brought my leg over. Time expired
  • 2 round, I did same thing. This guy was also a 2 stripe blue belt and was very aggressive. I retained guard except for one time when he started to pass so I pushed into N/S and inverted up to take his back but he turtled. I then pushed him over and took side control. I quickly shelfed his near arm but couldn’t get under hook on far arm. I was going to work the N/S choke from there but he started doing some bullshit buggy type stuff, so stepped over his head to get the shot gun arm bar. He did some kind of punch choke thing and for 20 seconds we battled it out before I conceded the choke. I wouldn’t have in a tournament, but the punch to neck was really annoying and hurting my neck. All good , the head coach was watching that round and gave me some good feedback after to finish the armbar
  • Fun to wear the gi again. I didn’t use grips much and primarily worked new things which was fun. I never really went to A game. I can tell that my game is very different from what they’re used to. I’m sure it’ll present some good matchups and challenges going forward.
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Saturday

Low Incline Bench - 10x135, 10x155, 5x175, 5x185, 5x3x225

OH DB Lat Extensions - 3x15

Tricep Rope Cable Ext - 3x15

Sunday

@burien_top_team, attempted the challenge. I got through 2x10 on pull-ups in 1.5 minutes, then went for third and my left elbow was pissed. Too Many weighted pull-ups lately. I’m going to try again next week.

WG Pullups - 2x10

Bent Over Cable Row - 4x12

Cable Pulldown - 4x12

  • Pullup strength has been great lately. I have done a minimum of 20 weighted pull-ups every morning, either with 20lbs (3-5 reps) or 40lbs (1-2 reps). Also likely why my elbow isn’t happy.
  • Weight wants to hang around 233 every morning I did see 231 on Saturday, but Sunday/Monday right back to 233.
  • Today (Monday) I did cold plunge first thing, then warmed up sauna and sat in that for 15 minutes. Hoping to make it to training this afternoon, at lunch break.
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Monday….

Well, not how you want the training session to go.

  • instruction, good teaching on 3 sweeps: Lasso, John Wayne and half guard to deep half sweep
  • First round, with the owner. I went to pass, he got me in closed guard, he locked in a cross collar while I was framed against his neck. I stood up, put my knees behind his butt to scrape him off and he climbed up. I gently put his head down and he finished it. One of those moments a slam or PGF rule set for raised head above waist would have saved me. Then spent rest of 5.5 minute round retaining guard. He did pass at end.
  • Second round was against 4 stripe blue. We basically just scraped for a while. I did a guard retention move where my right leg bends in and frames across his hip. He was holding my lapel, I was on my shoulders pushing my legs against him while I reverse crunched… and… my rib popped like a mofo. Ended round and stood up, it popped again. I then took shallow breaths for 20 minutes before I went to Urgent Care. I essentially sprained my rib and messed up cartilage. It’s incredibly uncomfortable and slightly painful. If I move funny, I feel the cartilage move around
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Hope for a speedy recovery

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Appreciate it.

Last night was a bit rough. I slept fine overall, but twice I moved my arm odd causing cartilage to pop out. If I don’t move it back within a few seconds it starts to hurt when I breathe and I get the sweats. Depending on how forceful the ‘pop’ is, it sends a jolt through the body. I sneezed earlier and holy shit that sucked.

I’m working from my bed today, might jump in ice bath if I feel I can easily get out. Exercise wise, leg extensions might be only thing I can do atm. Hopeful once inflammation reduces, I can get back to lifting a bit.

I’m essentially walking like I have a broken collarbone. My arm hangs across my chest, with hand on my rib. I can prevent it from popping up if I maintain pressure.

A few thoughts here:

  • I wonder if those DB pullovers stretched my abs, core more than usual and fatigued those muscles so they couldn’t support that guard retention move. I’ve done this sooooo many times while sparring and never once had an issue. Whereas, I haven’t done these pullovers in a few years.
  • @T3hPwnisher Alternatively, as you indicated last week, perhaps my ribs were already compressed and that’s why my OHP has been causing pain.
  • In the end it doesn’t really matter. Need to recover and get through this time period. I ordered BPC last week to just have on hand, so good timing on having it handy.
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I wonder if those DB pullovers stretched my abs, core more than usual and fatigued those muscles so they couldn’t support that guard retention move.

This is another instance where you and I are “same but different”, because I stopped directly training my obliques about 16 years ago because I noticed that, literally EVERY time I would start, the very NEXT training session I’d hurt my back. Without fail, do one training session with saxon side bends, blow out my back on the next, recovery for 3 months, train for a year, do 1 session of roman chair side raise, blow out my back.

And actually, I had something similar happen during COVID as well. I was getting back into stretching, because I was teaching my kid Tae Kwon Do and wanted to be able to kick higher, and on a squat session I most likely squatted lower than my body was used to and ended up tearing something in my groin.

It could have been fatigue, or it could ALSO be that you just opened up more ROM and dug into an area that hadn’t been properly strengthened yet.

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It’s funny. Our body has found homeostasis with how we train, then we try to implement something new to bring up a weakness and it just unravels everything. I’ve mentioned in the past, I do zero direct ab training. I started doing more about 3 weeks ago and just forget to log it, but leg raises, windshield wipers, etc. I’m almost certain this is the cause.

And this is why I will not do any back training if my hamstrings are tight, and I will never do legs and back the same day. It always results in my back tightening up and feeling like discs compress.

I sneezed and it popped out earlier and was probably the most painful I had felt. I just laughed through the pain, it’s another instance of earning the damage you have on your body. I had my wife and one of my kids feel pushing my rib back in place, so they could feel how absurd this is. Right next to the ball of hamstring I have on left leg, right shoulder and elbow clicking and both ankles

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Ugh! Brutal. What’s the prognosis, if you’ve got one?

Slipping Rib Syndrom. My rib cartilage continuously pops out and I push it back down into place. It started as very painful, now it’s just a nuisance. It happens every time I move. I’m taking some otc NSAIDs, but I don’t feel terrible pain anymore. The doctor was willing and offered three times to open up the prescription book. I don’t need pain pills.

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