for a steroid virgin, and dbol, how much, how long. Or is it not worth it on its own?? what kind of gains to be expected? safety precautions/ side effects
You need to do more research before you make posts like this.
Read.
Use the frikken search engine.
yeah dbol by itself is great, run a cycle for a few weeks! Then post your gains quick, before they disappear and you shrivel up into nothing.
cmon buddy, use the search, you’ve MUCH to learn. Oh yeah, and whoever said no question is a stupid question, obviously himself asked many a stupid question in his life and just wanted to make himself feel better.
Ah, the infamous dbol only cycle. If you’re gonna use aas, do it right. Get over the fear of needles. Let me refer you to Steroid Newbie Thread.
i thought that there was a good group of guys who like to help out guess i was wrong. I realise i have to research but i was hoping you might have some good sites for me so i wouldnt waste my time.
this is a good site bro. You have to be willing to put in some effort yourself though and READ. You can’t expect to be spoon-fed.
As for wasting your time, if you just did some reading, you would realize that the whole IDEA of a dbol only cycle is a waste of time. Look up how many times this has been asked before and you’ll realize how frustrated people can get by answering it over and over and over…
Now I have read a fair bit on the subject, but nowhere can I find a definitive reason for not using D-bol alone if you used a good anti-estrogen i.e. arimidex. Then any weight you gained wouldn’t be water.
Excluding the economics of using a good synergystic stack.
The only reason someone came up with seemed a bit vague, something about the half-life of orals being so short so the endocrine system goes up and down too much.
Anyone got a definitive answer?
Christ Almighty. I gave the same advice to “orange juice” once. I asked him to do his OWN research, and I got my face shit on. Either we ALL start helping guys around here, or we tell all the newbies to fuck off, plain and simple. I’m going to choose to start helping.
The guys are correct in saying that a sole D-bol cycle would be wrong. Alot of what you would gain would be water weight and you are bound to lose all your gains once you come off. And another good point made… don’t be afraid of needles. Trying taking more than one steroid at a time. For example, you might want to use your D-bol with some Fina/Tren to help harden up your gains.
This advice can go on forever, so I’ll ask you to research on your own about Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, and HCG. These are NECESSARY! If you do not add these drugs (1 or 2 of the above mentioned atleast) to your steroid cycle, then don’t bother starting at all.
Your dosage will depend on what you plan on stacking your D-bol with. Your dosages could end up ranging from 15mg daily to 60mg daily. As for any oral, I wouldn’t go more than 6 weeks in length. If you ask why, then this is where you need to research. I’m just giving you the straight forward answer to your question.
Tons of bodybuilding sites exist to give you indepth drug profiles. A good start could be meso-rx. If not, go buy a reference manual such as the Anabolic series books (ie. 2000, 2002, 2004). Good luck!
Cripe. You know, someone needs to go do a Dbol only cycle and report back so we can settle this once and for all.
Twisted, you’re the man, you’ve been volunteered. Run a Dbol only cycle incorporating Arimidex and keeping some Nolva on hand for during cycle. Use Clomid for your PCT.
If I can make size and strength gains off Creatine, then 6 weeks of Dbol should do something for a newbie in my book. Now it won’t be as effective as a real stack, but it will produce some results, possibly permanent.
Warhorse
I asked this because I have a willing guinea pig who I’ve managed to convince to use anti-E’s but can’t/won’t have anything to do with needles. They’ll be doing 40mg daily for 6 weeks with 0.5mg arimidex EOD and Clomid PCT.
They baulked at the price of the ancillaries (twice the price of the D-bol) but managed to talk some sense into them but not enough to use injectables.
They’ll be starting in a couple of weeks, and I shall be reporting back when all is done and dusted.
i have no interest in doing a cycle as im only 18 years old and am making good gains naturally. I was just talking to a guy who is starting a cycle of dbol only and nothing else not even clomid etc. So i was wondering what to expect from him. When i do make the leap to juice i will be doing more than my share of research before hand, which im starting now and im not going to be scared of needles. Before you guys tell me im way too young dont worry im waiting until im in my 20’s and then i will decide. Thanks massnutrition, helping newbs is something that people should do more, i may be completely green to steroids but i do know quite a bit about training and get approached alot while working out. It gets annoying but i think in the long run its worth it because thats how i learned. Not saying i know everything but i know the basics and some advanced training techniques… i think im going to look into westside style training as everyone seems to be doing it. peace
Creed:
The half life of Dbol is 4-6 hours, so some people (including Bill Roberts I think) once advocated taking Dbol in the morning believing it would not suppress endogenous Test production. Whether or not that actually works I don’t know.
I also don’t know if fluctuating androgen levels are any worse for your endocrine system than steady levels of exogenous androgens. Anyone know the answer???