Hmmm grape fruit juice my friend your a genious!!
Any who i really don’t think milk thistle would hinder gains if that is what you suggest.
Has any one ran with and with out the thistle noticed any thing different.
[quote]judgeroybean wrote:
Hmmm grape fruit juice my friend your a genious!!
Any who i really don’t think milk thistle would hinder gains if that is what you suggest.
Has any one ran with and with out the thistle noticed any thing different.[/quote]
I was just curious because I had heard/read that it downregulates androgen receptors whereas SAM-E doesn’t, you can get SAM-E at any grocery store in the US, idk about other countries. The SAM-E is also better for you in terms of getting your liver in good shape, it supposedly helps with overall mood too…
I’m not positive but if you search around for supplements and find anything with the abbreviation DHB or “dihidryoxybergamottin” (i think) then you can get that because it is the extract from grapefruit juice that works its magic. It’s not too expensive either.
How much grapefruit juice would you have to drink to get an effect? lol
DG
As far as I understand, the halflife of the furanocoumarins (thought to be the active component) is fairly long, ie a couple of days, so it should be fairly easy to build up a large amount without going nuts on grapefruit juice!
I suggest caution for anyone else who’ll be trying this though, deaths have occured from grapefruit/medication interactions, believe it or not!
Another word of caution
The effects of Caffeine and Ephedrine are both potentiated by grapefruit juice.
Considering the longish halflife of the furanocoumarins, grapefruit might be something to avoid if you occasionally use/abuse either of these stims.
Oh and I’ve done some reading, and found something of interest re: grapefruit and E levels
Shouldn’t be a problem on cycle though I imagine, what with AIs and such.
Sorry to completely derail your thread, OP.
Dave