How many of you had gyno problems with dbol?
Were you more prone to gyno?
liquidex and nolva sufficient to combat?
Thanks
Dbol aromatizes to methylestradiol. It’s more potent than estradiol.
I have slight gyno from puberty, and after all I’m reading its starting to make me think I should just cycle with the test alone…
I have found liquid preparations from research chem companies to be… less effective. I can’t say how or why, but even UGL caps are preferred in my book.
why is likely underdosing
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Yup. Saps is so damn smart.
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If your gyno prone Dbol is to be avoided.
I am not, I can run high dose test with minimal issues using lower than average AI doses. Although generally I like my estrogen borderline low and tend to run high AI doses, just personal preference, but I have run lower before.
Dbol seems to give me sensitive nips even on moderate doses of letro as my AI. Not gyno, just nipples are more sensitive than normal.
Ive tried playing with the dosages to prevent any nipple sensitivity, even at what we would consider a pretty high dose of letro for estrogen control it was still noticeable to some extent.
Dbol’s estrogenic compounds are trouble causers for many users, If you decide to use dbol in your cycle, Id recommend 20-30mg preworkout at most, and judge from there.
Smartest thing to do would simply be raise your test dose a bit and forget the dbol, not worth the risk.
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If your gyno prone Dbol is to be avoided.
I am not, I can run high dose test with minimal issues using lower than average AI doses. Although generally I like my estrogen borderline low and tend to run high AI doses, just personal preference, but I have run lower before.
Dbol seems to give me sensitive nips even on moderate doses of letro as my AI. Not gyno, just nipples are more sensitive than normal.
Ive tried playing with the dosages to prevent any nipple sensitivity, even at what we would consider a pretty high dose of letro for estrogen control it was still noticeable to some extent.
Dbol’s estrogenic compounds are trouble causers for many users, If you decide to use dbol in your cycle, Id recommend 20-30mg preworkout at most, and judge from there.
Smartest thing to do would simply be raise your test dose a bit and forget the dbol, not worth the risk.
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Thanks for the advice, I was leaning in that direction as well. Now I have it, so what do you think about low dose, 15mg for something like 8 or ten weeks? Or should I replace it with something else? I wanted to stack and get some great results for my first cycle, although I need to flip this before I can buy anything else haha
You can get very good results in a first cycle that is test only. With your gyno problem already you still can choose to run it with the test you just better have your AI’s in full effect.
Agreed.
Run your AI boarderline too high.
Its risky, but since dbol’s half life is so short, you can play around with the dose and notice immediately if things start going wrong, and drop it.
Try 10-15 mg preworkout and if that doesnt cause any problems after a week, try 20-30.
If you get itchy nips or any pain, or swelling, up the AI a bit for a few days after and drop the dbol and dont play with it agian.
I believe the my gyno wasn’t developed via estrogen, but the cause was prolactin related, many of my blood tests show high prolactin. I’m not positive about this, but I’ve never had any e2 problems, so it makes sense.
Do you think I can stop worrying so much about the addition of Dbol to my test cycle? I’m contemplating that question all day, it’s making me crazy.
While all that might be true its still wise to properly control your estrogen even with prolactin induced gyno. Don’t go crazy over the dbol issue. If its that big a deal drop the dbol. Otherwise follow westclock’s advice and try it. At the first sign of danger drop the dbol it will be gone from your system in a day and ride your AI at a higher dose for a few days. Shoot you can even run your nolva with your AI, even if it is sub-optimal. You won’t have a bad cycle because you didnt run dbol