Hey guys. So I’m thinking of doing a 4 week cycle of dbol at 40mg per day split into 2 daily doses. From what I’ve been reading stacking it with test e is an option to help achieve my goals. My problem being is that I have to travel for work and I can’t be crossing borders with illegal substances. So my time frame is limited. Is there a point in taking 500mg of test E for the 4 weeks with the dbol and then jumping on a pct for the remaining 4 weeks before
I need to leave the country? Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks a lot
Yeah I’d wait until you have a better window. There are a few problems here.
- The test will just be getting to peak levels at 4 weeks and will pretty much be pointless
- Test at 500mg and dbol could be fine but could also cause estrogen sides as both aromatics.
- The dbol by itself isn’t the best option either.
I’d do something like 200 test, 600 eq for 12- 16 weeks. You could throw the dbol in for the first four weeks if you tolerate it ok. Then pct with nolva 40/40/20/20
Sorry but I think your window is too short
Exactly right. I don’t understand it when one of these “I’m traveling soon” posts come up from time to time. It’s an artificial deadline my man. Why not wait until you have the proper time to do it right. As far as the cycle goes I like test and dbol but you need more time. Even if you ran Test Prop instead it’s not an ideal timeline to screw up your HPTA for. If you want to run long ester test plan for at least 10 weeks on plus pct. If you want to run short ester test you need at least 6 weeks plus pct.
So you have a total of 8 weeks before you leave?
PCT is four weeks and that can only start after the esters clear your system. With enanthate the ester takes two weeks give or take to go down low enough to start PCT. A short ester like propionate takes a couple of days. So if you used test propionate then you could run it for three and a half weeks then you would have to stop. That is just not enough time to do anything worth the risk, trouble or cost of PCT. It’s literally just throwing money away hoping you might get to gain and keep a pound by the time it is all done. Then there is the possible damage to your hpta loop. There is only so many times that thing will get back up and going before it says “hey fuck you this is on and off shit is pissing me off, you don’t even buy me dinner before you fuck me!”
So in conclusion just wait until you have a proper amount of time. The shortest I would recommend is 8 weeks for a propionate cycle plus the four weeks for PCT, add in an additional week for the waiting period between the end of the prop and start of PCT, you only need a couple of days though. That makes a total of 13 weeks, really 12 and 1/2 weeks minimum time to run and PCT a prop cycle. Enanthate you can do for 10 weeks even though it should really be minimum of 12. So 10 weeks plus the 2 you wait for the enanthate to clear out plus 4 for PCT brings a total of 16 weeks minimum that you have to be able to use and carry illegal things.
Hey thanks for the response I appreciate it. You seem to know your stuff. If I could ask another question though that would be great. Any insight on sarms? The GW seems almost to good to be true. Any thoughts?
Continuing the discussion from Dbol and Test E Cycle :
Hey I really appreciate the quick response. Thanks a lot. I’ve always been All natural and am pretty new to entertaining the thought of using any helpers in the gym. There’s a lot of information out there but it’s hard to actually separate the good from the bad. I’m in Canada and leaving the country at the end of February. Is there anything I could consider taking, (safely) for my 8 week window. As I understand it a stand alone dbol cycle is a no go. I’m 31, 6’2” and 265, and low 20’s body fat. I was just looking to put on a few lbs of muscle in the next 4 weeks and then cut hard for the vacation. Anyways thanks for all you help on here. Appreciate eh. Thanks
In my opinion SARMs are for folks who want a “legal” alternative or if they don’t want to inject themselves. If you are already willing and possibly have already used injectable estered hormones then SARMs would be a step back. Even if you get the absolute best response to SARMs it will pail in comparison to the results of a simple Testosterone cycle so you will in no way feel satisfied.
Only thing you can do in that short of time is some sort of T3 or clenbuterol cut. That’s it you only have time to burn fatt.
GW works great for someone with reasonable expectations. It won’t make a knock a person’s mile time from 10 to 4 or anything.
Carcinogenicity
Yea, but he could still take it.