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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Location, location, location.

The closer you are to public transportation, the better.

The closer you are to good food, the better.

If people basically have to drive to get to your club, it will be an issue.[/quote]

thats a hard one, because the blueprint for the city is awful, nothing connects and it seems so random, and public transpotation here sucks, buses stop at 10 pm which would do nothing for our club

but maybe we could switch cities and move it to Columbus or the Natti

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
sounds good

i would go.[/quote]

dude, Live I know you’d show up and try to fuck my girl lol

you dont care about the club, you just want to tell T-Nation that you got some bragging rights over me

but for real man, glad to have your support

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[quote]bpeloquin wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
sounds good

i would go.

x2,

but I actually will go. I’m in Ohio for Uni.
whereabouts you thinking ?

BP[/quote]

Toledo,Columbus,or Cinnci

looking more toward Columbus because that city has the mot enthused youth in the sate

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[quote]Aragorn wrote:

  1. Know your location like the back of your hand.

  2. Know your competition, both local (location oriented) and theme-wise (looks like there isn’t any)

  3. Don’t throw money at problems if you can put some sweat and blood into it to fix them. Most all small businesses that start up fail because they are under-capitalized and/or use those funds in-efficiently.
    [/quote]

we are loving the fact that we have no competition lol and definitely motivated to put in the time and tears to put the night scence where it should be

In The Dark!

good advice

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
be nice to your security[/quote]

for sure , I’ve worked at a few clubs with bad owners that would stiff us at the end of the night-leave without paying us

I’d never do that EVER!

I actually plan on doing some security stuff there because I love being in the crowd and mingling

plus, nobody is gonna protect you stuff better than you, right?

lol

thanks friend

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[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
One of the biggest concerns if something bad were to happen such as someone dying in the club due to illegal drugs or someone getting injured. There could be some liability there, this is where insurance comes in and is extremely important. There have been cases where insurance still does not cover all the claims and it comes out of the owners pockets.

It would be an EXTREMELY good idea to incorporate and form an LLC. It’s not hard to do at all. You can do it directly yourself and just follow directions, no lawyer or accountant needed (this is just for the formation). Read up on it and you’ll see why it is a good idea.

I’d become an expert in the bar/night club industry before I spent any cash. By this I mean try to figure out what makes them flourish or fail, etc. If you know anyone who runs a successful bar it would be beneficial to sit down with them. Probably not a bad idea to locate it closely next to a college (although land will be worth more near there).

Yes, I’d come, but the key is to have people keep coming back.[/quote]

Insurnce is a must!

I am not ignoring the fact tht illegal drugs will be present- I mean I love X and and wouldnt stop people from doing it if they wanted to

as a college kid, I definitel get that putting it near campus will no doubt be the best thing for the bar

and we are doing interviews with current owners to see if they can guide us, or even want in on the venture

thanks alot

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[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
I’ve always wanted to open up a bar/club right by a college. I’d call it “Coug’s”.

Drink specials for guys with college ID’s and for single women over 35.[/quote]

man! that is a really good idea, probably better than mine

but i think sabretooth is a better name

After we get up and running, I’ll shoot you something and try to help you start that up

I mean, with th popularity of Milf porn, your place would be pcked all week

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[quote]schultzie wrote:
I’ve always wanted to open up a bar/club right by a college. I’d call it “Sabretooths”.

Drink specials for guys with college ID’s and for single women over 65. [/quote]

i have actually seen some Gilfs in my city lol, thats not bad idea either may you can have a Gilf night with Elbow Strike

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
with us being psych majors, we have a passion for messing with people’s heads lol, that’s one of the reason why we think “vampiritic appeal” is a good idea, we understand that everyone has a DarkSide" to them, but people arent willing to explore that part because they feel its too taboo-so mixing it up with some mainstream will influence them to take the plunge into the life- even if its only once or twice a month

putting people in a state where they think they are doing something wrong is when they are most excited, and if you can keep up the dangerous/dark mindset you can keep up the excitement

we love breaking rules,comfort zones, and mixing extremes

between our group, there is so musch diveristy

" we rock and got people from Ghetto to Heavy Metal"

[/quote]

I think you should keep it as close to a rave scene as you can, rather than adding all this “Vampiritic Appeal” crap to it. Maybe it’s different there, but people who are actually into the goth/dark type of scene around here would see this as a bastardization of their scene for the sake of money, and wouldn’t go most likely. They would be the biggest market for a club like that, as the majority of the clubs out there don’t cater to them. Then you have the mainstream crowd, which I would assume will get tired of it after the fad wears out, in favor of clubs that are more specific to what they enjoy.

Pick a niche, and go with it. If you want a rave style club, make it a rave style club. If you want a darker type of club, then learn what people into that scene like, and model it after that. If you really want to, pick one theme for each night. But I can’t see a club that tries to pull in everyone from ghetto, to ravers, to metalheads, to goths actually working.

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[quote]Rattler wrote:
I’d go if it were actually more of a ‘rave’ club rather than just a club. I can’t stand cheese house and cheese trance.
However, if you put a club together focused mostly on the rave scene, and had a room for Drum & Bass, I’d so be there.[/quote]

the actual idea is to have a two floor st up, where there is had trance upstairs intermediate on the ground floor, so yes we have something for the begiiners and for the experienced

we are making sure we touch all bases before we get into this

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[quote]counterfeitsoda wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
with us being psych majors, we have a passion for messing with people’s heads lol, that’s one of the reason why we think “vampiritic appeal” is a good idea, we understand that everyone has a DarkSide" to them, but people arent willing to explore that part because they feel its too taboo-so mixing it up with some mainstream will influence them to take the plunge into the life- even if its only once or twice a month

putting people in a state where they think they are doing something wrong is when they are most excited, and if you can keep up the dangerous/dark mindset you can keep up the excitement

we love breaking rules,comfort zones, and mixing extremes

between our group, there is so musch diveristy

" we rock and got people from Ghetto to Heavy Metal"

I think you should keep it as close to a rave scene as you can, rather than adding all this “Vampiritic Appeal” crap to it. Maybe it’s different there, but people who are actually into the goth/dark type of scene around here would see this as a bastardization of their scene for the sake of money, and wouldn’t go most likely. They would be the biggest market for a club like that, as the majority of the clubs out there don’t cater to them. Then you have the mainstream crowd, which I would assume will get tired of it after the fad wears out, in favor of clubs that are more specific to what they enjoy.

Pick a niche, and go with it. If you want a rave style club, make it a rave style club. If you want a darker type of club, then learn what people into that scene like, and model it after that. If you really want to, pick one theme for each night. But I can’t see a club that tries to pull in everyone from ghetto, to ravers, to metalheads, to goths actually working.[/quote]

makes alot of sense, but as someone who is in the goth life I can defitely agree with the way its exploited, we really arent in it for money because all of us have access to plenty of it, whenever we want

and I dont know if you’ve read any of my other threads about my parties, but the ghetto to heavy metal actually works- thats where the idea comes from, We bought a house and started running the same type of thing out of it, and parties are fierce! so taking it to a lager scale shouldnt be a problem, as long as we promote it the right way

it works because, once you break a person;s mind down everyone operates the same

and as far as this being a fad, i cant see that as a possbibilty, because the idea is still around, and its been with us throughout our history, the seductive vampire is pesent in any culture you look at

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[quote]dirtbag wrote:
OK first off when you run a club you need connections to get people to play there. Special nights where if your going on trance or psy-trance or what ever your doing. You need big name headliners. Local DJ’s will not cut it.

Next you need a sound system that is very very very good. Most people don’t know that when you hear trance it has to be on a world class system or else you miss nearly half the sounds.

Next is lighting and atmosphere. If you want to get your place bang’n you need some kinda visual stimulus.

Make sure your place has parking. Nothing worst then a club that does not have parking near by.

I am not sure about in the states but here you need a liquor license to run a bar. If you get your license taken away your out of biz. Unless of course you make your money selling insider party favors.

Also people are really naive about this. But your going to step on someone toes. And if they are connected to any type of mobsters/bikers. You need permission from them to be up and running. If your not sure who this might be, I am pretty sure they will contact you and arrangements will be made.

If I can think of more I will let you know. [/quote]

good tips man, i never thought of that part lol

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[quote]G87 wrote:
IMO 7 people is be too many, unless some are content to be sleeping partners. I’m thinking of starting a business between 2 or 3 people this year, and am already apprehensive about everyone wanting to take the business in different directions, know what I mean? [/quote]

we’ve been doing this kinda thing with a house we bought a few months ago, and we’ve had a real good turn out, we are committed to this and really dont want any other type of thing,

but i get what youre saying, good look with your business

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[quote]Toledo,Columbus,or Cinnci

looking more toward Columbus because that city has the mot enthused youth in the sate
[/quote]

If you get somethin going in Columbus I’ll be there. Sounds awesome.

BP

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  1. Read. Everything. Like, literally, everything.

  2. Talk to bar/club owners and others in the biz, take them out for lunch and learn.

  3. Plan for everything - don’t expect to make much money the first year(s)

  4. Promotion is enormously important - know the scene, the key players, be willing to suck up and make “investments” when need be.

  5. Make sure you have people working for you with a diverse number of talents. Legal and accounting issues are too important to overlook.

Good luck

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Hey, if you’ve got some Hard Dance, namely mah man Yoji Biomehanika the OSAKA OZ!!! and decently priced booze. Then I’m down Rockula!

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If you want to make a lot of money, disable the taps in the bathroom and so everyone has to buy your $9 bottled water.

needless to say the police/ local hospitals thought it was less of a good idea.

Not my idea by the way. but i went to a place that did that.

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[quote]stevo_ wrote:
If you want to make a lot of money, disable the taps in the bathroom and so everyone has to buy your $9 bottled water.

needless to say the police/ local hospitals thought it was less of a good idea.

Not my idea by the way. but i went to a place that did that.[/quote]

huh? you can just get water out of the soda gun…

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If where you are is anything like Houston you’ve got about 3-4 months of actual money making [assuming marketing and word of mouth do their jobs and you’re appealing to your core audience], then the next new club takes over and you’ve got to resort to specials and “urban night” to get people in. At this point the club’s on it’s last legs and will be closed within a year from start to finish if you’re lucky. With that you can make some absurd money for those few good months. Absurd money. Also, the word is “vampiric”.

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Did somebody say legal botanicals incorporated in a night club? cool…