Dani's Rebel Log

[Chris_Shugart]

My results from the Peterson test:

What’s cool about the test is that it further breaks down each of these “top 5” traits. When you finish, you get a pretty personalized PDF about what each means.

What’s interesting is that there’s no real good or bad trait. Each has pros and cons. For example:

“Agreeableness is a very complex trait, with marked positive and negative elements all along its distribution. Because of this, higher scores and lower scores need to be explained at the same time. People high in agreeableness are nice: compliant, nurturing, kind, naively trusting and conciliatory. However, because of their tendency to avoid conflict, they often dissemble and hide what they think. People low in agreeableness are not so nice: stubborn, dominant, harsh, skeptical, competitive and, in the extreme, even predatory. However, they tend to be straightforward, even blunt, so you know where they stand.”

It goes on. And each trait and subtrait gets into how the average man or woman scores, and even where that puts your political leanings.

Another snippet from mine:

[Dani_Shugart]

@TrainForPain

I always liked DISC because the instructor has to call me a “giant D” in front of corporate rooms

I hadn’t heard of that one! Very interesting.

[Dani_Shugart]

@Chris_Shugart

People low in agreeableness are not so nice: stubborn, dominant, harsh, skeptical, competitive and, in the extreme, even predatory. However, they tend to be straightforward, even blunt, so you know where they stand.”

Yeah that’s actually a little confusing. Because at home, you’re extremely thoughtful, nurturing, attentive to my needs and desires, kind, trusting, and all the things that would make you highly agreeable. I see these warm characteristics in you even among certain populations like our closest friends and family.

So I’m actually not sure how you scored moderately low in that.

[anna_5588]

Since we’re talking about personality tests, there’s apparently research into a 6th dimension: honesty/humility

I took this test for shites and giggles (I don’t take these things too seriously)

https://hexaco.org/hexaco-online

[tlgains]

I’m late, but Happy Birthday!

[Dani_Shugart]

@anna_5588

there’s apparently research into a 6th dimension: honesty/humility

That sounds really cool! I’ll look into it for sure.

Yeah, I’ve had a lot of doubts about personality tests too, until taking the Jordan Peterson one, and it was actually scary accurate. If I could guess though, I bet you would score extremely high in industriousness, intellect, and aesthetics, just based upon things you’ve posted here and in various threads.

[Chris_Shugart]

I think the password is selective. I didn’t like seeing these results either:

I’m very swayed by cuteness, but mainly dogs.

I’d really rather not make others experience negative emotions, unless they deserve it.

I don’t mind sacrificing for certain people.

But I do admit that I have split-second reactions that are compassionless. Like, when someone tells me about a problem or worry that I think is no big deal, my brain says, “That’s silly! Get over it!” But a combination of life experience and taking this test taught be to check that, recognize the tendency, and NOT say the first thought that pops into my head.

I wish we could go back and see what questions on the test were related to the compassion trait.

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

Welp, I took it

Surprised openness wasn’t any higher. I don’t advertise myself openly, but I’ll talk about pretty much anything with anyone. Very few topics are off limits for me; probably more willing to share than most.
Agreeableness is not a surprise. I’m a stubborn bastard.

IDK, I could take this again in a week and see where it lands me - it will be slightly different. I think it’s an ADHD thing.

[alex_uk]

Hey @Dani_Shugart - I’ve just spent the last hour going through your journal to find that book we discussed, was a fun hour (I ended up reading pretty much every post rather than skimming) now got a half hour video to watch as a result, but still didn’t find the book, sorry could you let me know the title again please? (Yes I’m starting the Christmas shopping, it’s actually pretty early for me!).

[Dani_Shugart]

Oh my goodness you had to scroll through all that old stuff? You can always just ask and I’ll get right back to ya! Hahaha

It’s called Complement by Jamie Ivey. And you’ll definitely want to go through it together.

Let me know if this link doesn’t work; I’m on mobile right now and tried to grab the Amazon page for it.

https://www.amazon.com/Complement-Seeing-Marriage-Through-Scripture/dp/153599780X/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?adgrpid=111049826850&hvadid=657213485406&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9029018&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=7609401790910693394&hvtargid=kwd-1350036149192&hydadcr=29452_14726206&keywords=complement+jamie+ivey&qid=1702644367&sr=8-2

[alex_uk]

Awesome thanks Dani, ordered! The link worked fine, thanks (and tip for any UK users if you copy and paste an amazon.com link and change the .com to .co.uk it almost always works still).

I’ll let you know how we get on!

[Dani_Shugart]

@Andrewgen_Receptors

Surprised openness wasn’t any higher. I don’t advertise myself openly, but I’ll talk about pretty much anything with anyone. Very few topics are off limits for me; probably more willing to share than most.

That is surprising. Maybe the report will give you more details on that. I think JP defines certain character traits differently than what pops in mind for most people. Or maybe, like you said, it can change based on how you’re feeling on a given day.

@Andrewgen_Receptors

Agreeableness is not a surprise. I’m a stubborn bastard.

Your zero score was surprising to me, but maybe you’re like Chris and you have selective agreeableness. It seems like people are naturally more agreeable toward those they respect. Or if they disagree on something, they figure out a way to find some semblance of common ground… or to accept differences of opinion, which almost seems like a form of agreeableness.

If you were absolutely disagreeable, you probably wouldn’t have as much of a community here as you do. And yet people here know and like you.

Here’s mine:

Most of my report was pretty good, but there was a part that seemed almost the opposite of my disposition.

I scored extremely low in industriousness (which is half of the category of conscientiousness – the other half is orderliness, which I got a “typical” score in).

And according to the report, my low industriousness means I didn’t do well in school and am considered either unintelligent or an underachiever. That’s very weird because I was suma cum laude in college, English student of the year, an RA, and an Orientation Leader, the latter two both required extensive rounds of interviews and were hard AF to get accepted into. (But maybe I’m just not that person anymore.)

Then there’s a part that says those who are low in industriousness don’t judge themselves harshly and are resistant to guilt, self-contempt, etc. Well, my psyche must’ve missed the memo on that one because half of my personality is guilt, harsh self-judgment, and self-contempt… to the point that it eats me alive on occasion.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have that particular feature of low industriousness, but unfortunately that’s very much not the case.

[Chris_Shugart]

“Openness” is one of those parts of the test that’s confusing because “openness” isn’t the right word really. The PDF gets into detail.

[Dani_Shugart]

Full-ish Body Minus Back

Tri-Set:
Machine Chest Press: 4 x 10-12
Banded No Money Drill: 4 x failure
Lateral Raise: 4 x Failure

Superset:
Booty Machine (long length partials): 4 x Failure
Loaded Walking Lunge: 4 x out and back

Single Exercise:
Dip: 5 x 5-7 reps, EMOM

Good workout, obviously no PRs, but this was challenging!

[Dani_Shugart]

Today’s Workout

• Leg Press
• Booty Machine (long length partials)
• Walking Lunge
• Bench Press
• Arnold Press (with pauses at the bottom)
• Machine Lateral Raise (with burnout partials at bottom range)

Still no back training. Maybe this has been a good thing though. The pinchy pain near my right scap is completely gone, my traps have loosened up a bit, and I don’t feel the constant need for a professional back massage.

Oh, hey! I completely forgot to update something on here.

Months ago I posted about how there was a constant pain in one of my molars whenever I would chew with it. It was bad enough that the endodontist (who did the root canal under it) said it could be trigeminal neuralgia. It would cause pain that’d shoot up into the right side of my head and face.

Well, that’s fixed now. My crown just needed to be adjusted. It’s crazy to think about, but I literally avoided chewing on the right side of my mouth for YEARS. And now it’s fine (after getting it basically sanded down a bit), which means I can eat like a normal person.

Apparently if a dental crown is too big for your mouth, it can cause damage/bruising to the tissues under there; even if you got it root canaled.

It also means that I most likely got a root canal for no reason. The pain caused by the crown that was too big made us all think I needed a root canal even though my X-rays showed that the root was fine. LOL fun times in dental chairs, am I right?!

So, health wise, things are great, despite unnecessary procedures.

Chris’s B-Day Brunch

Since his birthday fell in the middle of a snowy week, we saved our fancy meal for the weekend.

That is “salvacado toast” which was a huge chunk of salmon, plus two eggs, plus avocados, on sour dough toast, and it was mind blowing. But I ought to have gotten it with a runny yolk. Someone please teach me the correct egg terminology.

[unicornsandrainbows]

That looks amazing! Love the fish to bread ratio.

This is the best egg representation I could. Unfortunately, it didn’t include descriptions. I like mine over medium, the yolk is still runny, but the white is cooked though. Over easy ends up having a runny white as well.

[Dani_Shugart]

@unicornsandrainbows

I like mine over medium, the yolk is still runny, but the white is cooked though.

That’s exactly what I wanted! Thank you for finding that picture; I’m going to use it for reference now!

[Dani_Shugart]

Today’s Full-ish Body Workout

• Loaded Walking Lunges (holding a plate overhead or in front), intentional incomplete rest between sets

Superset
• Dips
• Lateral Raises

Superset
• Hammer Strength Chest Press
• Overhead Plate Raise

Superset
• EZ Bar Curls
• Tricep Pulldowns w/rope attachment

One of The Best Interviews I’ve Ever Seen

Our friends, family, peers, and even those we follow online influence us to do and want what they do and want. This is wild!

Mimetic Desire: Why Do We Want? - Luke Burgis | Modern Wisdom Podcast 344

If we’re so easily driven to mimic those around us, then should we keep people at arm’s distance (or avoid their content online) if we don’t want to adopt their desires and priorities? I honestly don’t know.

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

@Dani_Shugart

If we’re so easily driven to mimic those around us, then should we keep people at arm’s distance (or avoid their content online) if we don’t want to adopt their desires and priorities? I honestly don’t know.

Disclaimer: I did not watch the video.

Old saying goes “You are a combination of your 5 closest friends”. To a degree, I agree with this.

I also have almost no friends as I’m so selective over who I keep in my life. 3 of them are on this forum, ironically.

I do advocate that people don’t keep their high school friends as a general rule, but sometimes people have incredible high school friends that are nothing but positive influences in their lives. I think that, in most cases, people will be held back by their friends. No one wants to be out-done, and often times you will see friend groups turn into crabs in a bucket. This is particularly true for female friend groups.

The few friends I have - are people who have characteristics I wish to emulate. They are people that can have an open dialogue with me and teach me; I hope that I provide value to them as well. It is a bit transactional, but so is literally everything in life.

[Dani_Shugart]

@Andrewgen_Receptors

Old saying goes “You are a combination of your 5 closest friends”. To a degree, I agree with this.

The adage makes a lot of sense. People’s influence over us is so powerful and those who study mimetic desire are taking the idea even further.

They’re saying that you begin to want what everyone you’re exposed to wants; and if I understand correctly, they don’t even have to be your friends. It’s like a contagion that you can’t really control.

One of the examples Luke Burgis (who was interviewed in the video you didn’t watch lol) used plastic surgery as an example. There’s a reason why social media influencers – and their followers – are all starting to look the same: they’re inadvertently mimicking one another.

@Andrewgen_Receptors

I also have almost no friends as I’m so selective over who I keep in my life. 3 of them are on this forum, ironically.

I feel this. It’s hilarious that your friends are on here! That’s awesome. Since we’re talking about the influence of other people, is it possible you’re selective because you subconsciously don’t want other people to “rub off” on you?

Maybe as we get older, we develop an instinct about our natural tendency to mimic those we spend time with, and as a result, we hold back from getting close to those who have vastly different values and desires.

@Andrewgen_Receptors

I do advocate that people don’t keep their high school friends as a general rule, but sometimes people have incredible high school friends that are nothing but positive influences in their lives. I think that, in most cases, people will be held back by their friends.

Very possible, and if mimetic desire is true, they’d be inadvertently persuaded to live differently (perhaps even becoming more successful) than they would with an entirely different friend group. We end up conforming to whatever is most prominent around us.

Some say that if your friends are all divorced, it’ll make you more likely to also get divorced, or at least be more open to the idea. If your friends all have numerous children, it’ll make you more likely to follow suit. You could probably think of a lot more examples.

@Andrewgen_Receptors

The few friends I have - are people who have characteristics I wish to emulate. They are people that can have an open dialogue with me and teach me; I hope that I provide value to them as well.

Enjoying someone’s company is value for sure. And it’s even better if you improve because of their influence. Sounds like you’ve got some great friends.