Dani's Rebel Log

It’s always something.

It’s actually a running joke in our house that I never stay completely healthy or injury-free for long. If I’m feeling fantastic, it’s only a matter of time before something happens.

So this isn’t surprising:

On Monday morning (before we hit the gym) Chris and I were walking the dogs and I looked up to see if we could let them loose at an open field in our neighborhood. But the moment I took my eyes away from the uneven sidewalk, I tripped and my entire body kinda dove forward.

I can’t remember the last time I took a spill this hard, but it felt like my left femur came out of socket from my hip. The pain was unreal. I think maybe my left leg went forward to try and save me but failed. It kinda feels like I sprained my butt and have a minor hamstring strain.

So that morning I just hit upper body. No biggie… and luckily the hip/hamstring pain has been getting better every day since.

Then yesterday I tried to test things out and see what I could do for lower body, and it was kind of bizarre.

Out of all the exercises I tried, walking lunges and the seated adductor (booty machine) were the only things that didn’t hurt. Anything where there’s tension in the hamstrings while they’re in the lengthened position is off the table right now.

Yesterday’s Workout

Adductor Machine: 4 x 15 full ROM and 15 partials
Walking lunges: 4 x out and back with pauses at the hardest part

This is part of the reason why I have to train like a hippie, rebel, or whatever you want to call it. If you’re injury-prone or have a history of chronic systemic problems, you can’t really follow someone else’s program. Not for long at least.

You have to work out intuitively, challenge yourself in ways that won’t make the problem worse, and figure out how to stay consistent.

Why do so many trainers crap on people who can keep themselves physically fit without following their rigid idea of fitness and lifting?

Most experts poo-poo the idea of working out without a pre-made plan. But there’s a world full of obese and under-muscled people who aren’t consistent in the gym. And if you’ve learned how to avoid those two conditions – regardless of what you’re doing – then that’s a win.

Sometimes I get the impression that there are experts who don’t want others to succeed unless it’s with their pre-approved methods.

I like this article from Lee Boyce about training plans. I think the title is a little more bombastic than his main point, but regardless, it’s worth a read.

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*cough*
Mark Rippetoe
*cough*

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HA! Does he give you that impression? I saw a couple headlines from SS earlier this year that made me chuckle. I think one was about how you can’t possibly build muscle using machines or how going higher rep with lighter weights is completely useless. Stuff like that.

But I’ve gotten this impression over the years mainly from just seeing what people post on social media. It’s discouraging. If I’ve been lifting since age 16 and feel discouraged from hypercritical social media posts, imagine what a beginner feels like.

It makes me appreciate the professionals who’ve tested out tons of training styles themselves, and who just want people to do whatever works for them.

T Nation has a lot of voices like that. Go us!

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Pretty sure I’m not alone with that impression lol.

This one?
I was going to start ripping apart this article, but I only got a few paragraphs in before I realized that my rebuttal would be longer than the original article.

Wait, I think i found the real one.

The next Awful Truth is that training for hypertrophy is not dependent on high-rep sets with little rest . It is dependent on muscle growth, which is facilitated by forcing the use of heavier weights over time, and far more efficiently accomplished with sets of 5 reps. Muscles get stronger by increasing their cross-sectional area, by adding contractile protein. I’m not interested in the precise mechanism, because I don’t have to understand the details of the mechanism to observe the phenomenon. But I’ve observed the process of getting bigger for decades – if you drive your squat up from 135 to 405x5x3 and your deadlift from 185 to 495x5, you got a lot bigger. Because if you didn’t grow bigger by eating enough protein and calories, you never got to these numbers. And these are not crazy numbers that require the use of drugs, but rather normally accessible progress for normal males with a couple of years of correct training on sets of 5.

Okay, I agree with his sentiment here, but numerous - repeated data indicates 6-12 is ideal for hypertrophy and 1-5 is ideal for strength. That doesn’t mean you can’t grow at higher or lower reps, it simply isn’t ideal. Those ranges are typically better served with a specific purpose, be it ‘pump work’ or perhaps during a strength meso-cycle.

I wonder how John Meadows would feel about Rippetoe’s thoughts on high rep work being useless. :thinking:

Sorry, I derailed your thread again.

If this industry couldn’t make money, I think there would be more fit people in the world to be honest. It’s outright information overload, mostly from folks trying to sell a gimick.

Okay I lied, one more pile of poo to throw:
Why do these Starting Strength Coaches all look like they need coaches?
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Maybe they hid all the jacked coaches in the back?

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Judging by much of the content on this site, I’d say you’re right. I just didn’t want to call anyone out in particular. Also… I was baiting you a bit. It’s fun for the rest of us when you’ve got stuff to share.

Is this a sign you need to write an article? It wouldn’t be a rebuttal but more like an article expressing the values of doing XYZ for muscle growth.

John Meadows and every other bodybuilder who I’ve ever gotten the chance to see work out. The guy in my gym, who’s about to get his pro-card, can’t squat due to a knee injury, but he can leg press. He also uses ultra-high reps and light weight on occasion. The dude went from super skinny to monster. But maybe I should tell him to stop what he’s doing and instead use starting strength to prep for his next competition. lol

You didn’t. I’d rather my log be an exchange of ideas and good conversation than a record of numbers that nobody cares about.

I think it’s narcissism overload. If professionals could share information respectfully and admit that different things work for different people, the fitness world would be cooler. I’m super guilty of having dogmatic opinions in the past but I’ve softened my approach quite a bit and have learned that I was wrong on several things.

The thing is, when people start belittling other methods, and those who’ve gotten great results using them, fitness gets overwhelming.

That’s reason number 387 that I don’t spend time on Insta. The sharing of information is often just adults telling other adults what to do.

And one thing I don’t love is being told what to do with my own body. Especially if my body has improved by doing the things they say not to do.

Now if someone I trust has a recommendation, then I’ll take their advice seriously and really consider it. But dogmatic blanket statements from narrow-minded people will go in one ear and out the other.

Baggy clothing? I don’t think they look bad, they just have a different goal. It’s actually refreshing meeting performance-driven people when you’ve spent too much time around looks-driven people.

But the truth is, when you’re in the gym around people in real life, most of them are somewhere in the middle and they seem happier and more well-rounded than anyone who’s obsessed with one extreme or the other.

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As a fellow injury prone all-star, this is true. I’ve found I can usually follow the progression model of a program, but I always have to change some of the exercises.

I’ve had three shoulder repairs and it gets incredibly cranky when placed in a fixed, overhead, externally rotated position. So I just swap in something else that meets the intent.

Does it really matter if I don’t do any barbell overhead presses? I swap out for dumbbell single arm presses that allow my shoulder joint to rotate as it naturally wants to - or I just completely cut out overhead pressing if my shoulder is extra cranky.

Hope you heal up quickly.

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This seems perfectly reasonable.

So many lifts can be swapped for others if the main goal is muscle growth or aesthetics.

The last time I followed a program to a T was during competition prep a few years ago. It actually made me hate the gym because the lifting portion alone took 2 hours every day, it was full of redundant exercises, and the prep coach said there was no room for improvisation.

That’s when I realized how arbitrary a lot of training plans really are.

There are a billion ways to get great results. Consistent effort is what seems to matter the most.

Oh wow. It’s awesome that you’ve found ways to work around that shoulder!

Nope, it doesn’t matter. Your results speak for themselves. You’re proof that the overhead press isn’t absolutely necessary for a jacked physique. And those who claim that it is are just plain silly.

Haha at this point my goal is just to be adaptable in whatever situation my body puts me in. Thank you for dropping by!

I made these.

Get the recipe here: Apple Jacked Muffins

Today my friend Candace is coming over and we’re going to make a strawberries and cream frozen dessert for a Fourth of July party we’re attending. I got the recipe from my mom and it is PURE CRACK.

I’ve seen firsthand how people act around it. They’ll have a small serving and then repeatedly come back for more and more. My mom’s recipes may not be high protein or low carb, but they’re always crowd-pleasers.

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Aw shucks, I bet you say that to all the guys lol.

Thanks for the compliment. Really. Means a lot at this moment.

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Obviously I can’t see a John comment without pretending I have some insight… He’s a perfect example of “it all works.” Dude came from a football/ track background, then he was kind of a combo Westside/ bodybuilder - with a 600lbs squat, and by the time he won his pro card he wasn’t even putting a barbell on his back. I can’t stand the “this is the way” attitude. I like this forum because we have a lot of really successful folks giving really varied advice.

Hope your hip is improved!

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This is a great point. I hadn’t thought about that before!

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Same and same! I understand liking one particular way of lifting, but I don’t understand those who claim that all other forms of lifting are subpar or useless. We know that’s not true because we have eyes.

Thank you! It was on the mend, but then we did a spontaneous hike over the weekend with friends, and hadn’t prepared (wrong shoes), so I ended up slipping on some loose sand/rocks coming down a mountain… totally re-injured it.

I think this is going to be a slow-healing injury.

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Upper Body

I had really wanted to start doing full body workouts, but with my sprained butt, I’m not sure that’s possible. Especially since I keep taking steps backward in the healing process.

Cable Straight Arm Pulldown (Tricep Focus)
4 x 10-12 then drop set several times to failure

I walked into the gym with minor elbow irritation and this exercise got rid of it. Plus it gave me a killer tricep pump. Plus-plus, this is going to sound super shallow, but when I’m shooting, I want the triceps to pop. So yeah lots of reasons to build the arms and slap some definition in cool places.

Girls with guns holding guns is a fun aesthetic.

Hammer Strength Chest Press: 4 x 8 (failure)
Banded External Rotation: 4 x 12 each side

These were fun. I’m not as strong as I was on them but I used to be, but used 140 pounds and had to do rest-pause to get all 8 reps.

T-Bar Row: 4 x 8 (no reps in reserve)
Dumbbell Lateral Raise: 4 x failure
Band Pull-Aparts: 4 x failure

Machine Lateral Raise: 3 x tons of full ROM reps, then partials

We hiked on Saturday, somewhat spontaneously with our friends Jeff and Candace, and I wasn’t wearing the right shoes, so of course, I reinjured my hip/high-ham. But it was gorgeous and so worth it.

Love the crap outta them!

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Well done @Chris_Shugart - keep it real!

Yikes! Way to just get right after upper body - finding a way! I just saw a headline where a father of five fell off the trail at Multnomah Falls and died. We use to live a few minutes away and did that one all the time. My dad had the funniest take: “5 kids? He jumped.”

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Thanks for the encouragement! I’ll probably test out more lower body stuff on Wednesday and see how it feels.

That story about the father is so sad. Wow. Yeah good, grippy hiking shoes are a must. I was able to keep myself from slipping too far but at the cost of that hip joint.

Your dad is hilarious!

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That was a fun little adventure. It’s almost a mile walk to the staircase at the base of the falls, then 224 steps up the staircase. Saw a lot of tourists getting murdered by those steps. (We’ll blame the altitude to be kind.)

There’s an optional 40-minute hike to Inspiration Point at the top. We actually didn’t know that was there, hence Dani’s street shoes and the fact that we only brought a small bottle of water. Worth it though. I touched a boob.

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The steps are scary, to be fair. Tons of people are going down at the same time you’re going up, they wobble a bit, and you’re basically looking down on a death trap. My fear of heights definitely kicks in on things like that. Ski lifts are way worse though… as you now know.

Lower Body

It’s actually kind of tricky to hit the lower body without re-irritating that left hip and hamstring. I can get away with walking lunges, but if I tilt my torso in the wrong direction and make it more of a posterior chain move than a quad move, it messes things up.

So I messed things up. Oops.

Adductor machine: 4 x 15 full ROM, then partials
Plate-loaded walking lunges: Out and back

With the lunges I held the plate in different positions on different sets: in front of the body, overhead, or a combination of both. Fun, but I’m pretty sure this didn’t help my injury.

Leg Extensions: 4 x failure with a drop set

This definitely doesn’t hurt that injury. Yay. But as someone with proportionally short legs, emphasizing the quads does not improve the appearance of my physique. And mine tend to grow with very little stimulation.

Abs: 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off using stuff like dead bugs, hollow hold variations, and other bodyweight moves.

4th of July Party

Jeff and Candace joined us at this huge party we were invited to. I’ve written about Debbie from the gym in posts above; she was the one who invited us.

Steve, the owner of the house asked what I’d like to drink, and I told him something crisp and fizzy, so he bypassed all the alcohol the guests had brought, and took us to his alcohol room where he served me champaign. That’s how generous this man is: always trying to make people feel special, cook for them, and serve them.

The four of us enjoyed ourselves without worrying about carbs, calories, or anything else, and it was delightful. My take? You’re not a completely healthy person if you care more about macronutrients than relationships. And being able to get your nutrition back on track right after a party is a sign of fitness.

Obviously there are caveats, like diabetes and food allergies, but that’s my general thinking now… and it goes against everything I used to believe.

Party outfit:

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Love this statement. I find myself constantly feeling guilty about enjoying food when the event calls for it, but it is just something to move forward from. Great reminder to enjoy then get back to it.

Also, great outfit!

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So glad it resonated! Yay!

I know the feeling and have so many thoughts on this.

What we have to keep in mind is that these events are rare and precious. I don’t want to remember a holiday where I drank a diet coke while watching other people commune.

What’s served there is likely not something you’re eating on the regular, and you’ll be having it in the presence of people you love. They want to see you enjoy yourself too.

Sure, it’s definitely possible to spend time with people without necessarily eating the same exact things, but I’m tired of being the odd one out who’s not enjoying the experience with everyone else.

I may eat mindfully and keep portions in mind, but I won’t ever turn down a serving of potato salad. :smiley:

Thank you! I got annoyed with the scarf and ditched it later that evening.

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I have to share this video. It’s a good lesson in questioning everything you hear from health and fitness professionals.

I’ve shared podcasts and books from Dr. Mindy Pelz before, and I think she makes some very good points on certain topics, but yikes…

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