please check out my recent post with all my stats… you seem very intelligent which is a gift I wasn’t blessed with so any help from you oor others here would be greatly appreciated
physio… do you have the time to check out my recent posting of my issues? I have my bloodwork results on there as well… I am hoping to be able to continue test and simultaneously cure my ed
I revisit this forum from time to time. I think we are in a similar boat if I remember correctly. Good to hear things started going uphill. Keep us updated.
Bro I’ve been having major ed issues for almost 2 years… I’m 27 years old. I took some tren pills for 2 weeks and that completely destroyed my sex drive. I’m currently on TRT no AI 200 mg a week of cyp. Please help bro.
“You have a collect call from the Ohio State Penitentiary by the name of ‘Physio-Lojik’. Do accept the charges?”
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The charge is about 1500-2500$ give or take… must be sent in bitcoin…
First of all why is the title about Deca, it can also be caused by Tren.
I havent experienced ED with Deca but had it after quitting several tren cycles, lasted for months.
Secondly: Let me be the light from above and introduce to you the one thing that will give you a boner and can make you an animal in bed for HOURS: 1ML of GHB, measure exact withdraw with a syringe or dropper, put it in a glass of juice and voila.
The best sex I ever had in my entire life was on GHB, that shit makes you horny as fuck and hard, last forever in bed, even when you have ED from cycles. Don’t listen to the dumb rumors that GHB is life threathening and extremely dangerous, that comes from dumbass idiots who did not research how to use it and the correct dosages, they did not even measure their intake and dropped knockout or even coma, these people are dumbass idiots, that can happen with everything, take too much viagra and youll get a heart attack too.
0.5 to 1ML, perfect for sex drive and mood with little side effects, never more than 1.5ML, that dosage is more for partying or wild times with your wife, makes you feel drunk and horny but without all the side effects from alcohol. never take more than 1.5ML in 1 shot, and you will be fine, wait 2 hours before ever redose if you want to continue. never be stubborn and take more than recommended dosage or before the 2 hour window, then you ask for it.
Now good luck and enjoy sex life once again lol, in fact the best sex you ever had, youll make her come 10 times until she passes out to sleep with a smile on her face from how hard you gave it to her, while you can still go on and still didnt come. Thank me later.
PS. Sorry in advance if this substance is seen as controversial here. Im Dutch, were very liberated and open on stuff like this. just sharing my experience. To me it alcohol and drugs is much more risky and damaging than ghb, if you do it responsibly and correcty it can help in situations like this.
GHB is drugs… (I also consider alcohol to be under the realm of hard drugs btw)… do I think GHB is particularly dangerous if you’re not an idiot, know the exact dosage you’re getting etc… not particularly
That being said, the disinhibitive effect tends to enforce compulsive redosing, the dosage difference between a good high/whatever you want to call it and… fatal respiratory depression is only a few mls apart, and there isn’t a known antidote for GHB poisoning. Furthermore in Australia we have problems relating to GHB fueled violence (similar to booze actually)… but kids tend to be idiotic with GHB
It isn’t “controversial” on here per se, but don’t try pretend that GHB usage for sex, a sense of well-being is any different from using recreational drugs… it isn’t… the only difference is that the established toxicity profile of GHB when used occasionally is far lower than that of alcohol, other depressant substances (ketamine, booze, barbiturates etc)…
Not really, there is a neurotoxic element stemming from frequent GHB usage about on par with heavy drinking… I’ll say this though, on anabolics… if one is going to use substances of recreation… it’s best to steer clear of compounds known to strain the heart, liver, kidneys etc… and while GHB does exert a net neurotoxic effect (compounded via neurotoxicity induced by AAS)… in terms of impacting longevity, GHB is one of the safer substances if used within reason. If you’re going to party hard with a substance prone to inducing an extensive sense of disinhibition, environment is key… be with friends (who aren’t using GHB), good friends will keep you in check if you’re going to make a huge fuckup “hey let’s take more”… or “this guy just gave me this pill, I’m going to take it”… good friends will keep the situation in check
GHB induced neurotoxicity pertains to rodent studies… and rodent studies only, however the mechanism by which it elicits cognitive deficit following prolonged, chronic exposure
(Altered NDMA receptor expression, similar to ketamine induced cognitive impairment) probably pertains to human physiology too
If you’re going to use recreational dosages of GHB, treat it in a similar vein to binge drinking… it may spare you internally, but neurologically the long term adaptation (in conjunction with AAS) can be profound
All recreational drugs come with downsides, even something with an extremely low established toxicity profile like psilocybin… 5 ht2b receptor mediated cardiac toxicity is a prospect that may stem from chronic intake, that being said with something along the lines of psilocybin I reckon it’d be fairly extensive intake… MDMA within clinical data when frequently abused appears to induce valvular heart disease through this exact mechanism, thus it’s a prospect that may stem true… just a word of warning for all those hippies/hipster guys microdosing psychedelic drugs on a daily basis…
Regarding being Dutch… I’ve been to Amsterdam, GHB isnt openly accepted… while I can’t attest for what the reality actually is, since I don’t live there… the substances of recreation I saw there (and I’ll specify if I tried them there) were…
- cocaine (absolutely not)
- mdma (didn’t try… but this seems to be what all kids rave about everywhere except the US)
- psilocybin (yup)
- cannabis (yup)
- nitrous oxide (nope)
- mescaline (nope)
supposedly it was once otc, but that’s no longer the case… it’s a dangerous drug when used by the general populace, similarly to anabolic steroids
Do I believe there’s unjust stigma regarding most of this shit… yes, especially when booze is so societally accepted. I can say “I went on a bender, drank for seven days and seven nights”… no adult bats an eye but if I were to theoretically say “I used some ketamine, had a fun night”… that’s problematic, harmful behavior (when the reality is aside from chronic ailment such as bladder cystitis etc alcohol induces FAR more damage)… it really is one of the most damaging substances available to society
The most damaging (in my opinion) vices currently available are
- alcohol
- tobacco
- gambling
Widespread access, lack of stigma, lack of public education and a highly
reinforcing nature regarding all three of these activities make them especially problematic
Im aware of every single thing you said.
However I don’t think you can really judge this substance unless you have tried it.
It is way too controversial and seen in a negative light because it has been abused to rape women in the 90s or something, and a few of these woman died due to overdose, that is the only reason that it has become so demonized.
I have tried every single drugs that you mentioned, probably more than that, and in my opinion GHB is the least extreme and harmful if done properly, it isnt anything more dangerous than alcohol, in fact im gonna say that alcohol is worse, in the netherlands Alcohol is seen as the number 1 most dangerous substance and related to most fatalities, above every single “hard drugs” MDMA is near the bottom of the list as well as ghb.
Also never ever have i seen someone get violent on GHB ever, at all, in fact it does the opposite it makes you quite relaxed and closer to people.
It is not any less of a drug than Alcohol is.
I might have just experienced it in a proper way, but i havent had a single negative effect from it. yes if you take a few ML too much you end up vomiting and maybe even pass out, but there is a reason for strict dosages.
What the FDA out of the USA has considered and banned as drugs is a scheme, half of these banned substances were doen by lobbyists and gangsters.
The reason why Alcohol and Tobacco is legal is because those are trillion dollar industries, while MDMA or GHB is extremely cheap and they can not patent or profit from it.
This is the ONLY reason that it was banned and made illegal by the FDA, if the pharma could have patented and sold it as medical durgs, they probably would have, actually MDMA used to be legal and even used by doctors for relationship therapy, sold under pescription, but when people started to create it themselves illegally and sell for cheaper, it got banned.
You could drink an ml of ghb every day or, party every weekend with it and you will never get lung cancer or heart disease, liver disease, nothing, that some other legal substances do.
It is all a big bussines.
I agree with what you say and of course if you use it like that youre basically being recreational, I myself havent used it in a long time and im not saying someone should use it for this purpose prolonged time, we’e not talking about recreational here or anything, just assisting.
I am just saying that from my experience, at a low dosage it could very well benifit with sexual problems, that doesnt mean go use it every day or week, that is common sense right, you also dont use drink alcohol every night or pop viagra every 2 hours during sex.
For me that is a much safer option than Viagra, that could give me a heart attack honestly.
Wondering if you have tried it? because 1 ml of ghb, you will have literally no hangover or any ill feelings afterwards, while drinking a few glasses you can already feel how it affects the body, if i drank too much alcohol i am literally vomiting and feeling miserable to the point i cant do anything, and the next day i will still feel sick, on GHB, never, if you actually take a bit too much. you will just pass out and wake up few hours later feeling fine and energized, since it puts you in direct deep REM sleep.
Ive taken up to 5ML or more on a night when partying, which is very dumb, yes i was an idiot, however worst thing that happened is i passed out and fell asleep, of course if you drink the whole bottle by accident, or dont measure your drops, youll die and go into a vegetable state, but whoever does that is an idiot, that speaks for itself.
Now again im not saying it can not be dangerous, im not saying its the safest thing out there, yes it can be lethal, but if done properly it can be a good help for that purpose of sexual issues, if you try it yourself and youll probably agree.
Some meds given by doctors are more dangerous than certain “drugs”, it is just a matter of business and big phrarma patenting, doctors kill more people per year than these actual “drugs”
When you find out that the pharmaceutical industry and american medical assosiation & fda is owned by the rockefeller family who also run the oil industry and federal reserve system, it all becomes very clear.
You make a perfectly valid argument and you’re not wrong. Except you’re wrong. Here’s why: you don’t get to judge a drug and its safety in a macro sense unless you use the lowest common denominator as your baseline. Imagine the dumbest, most irresponsible person with whom you attended high school. Now imagine him using GHB. That’s how these things are measured. We don’t look at the responsible users of drugs for examples, we look at what the irresponsible people are doing and we extrapolate out that effect on a broader population. For every user like you, who knows what they’re getting in to and has an idea of how to mitigate most of the risks, there’s a total dumbass who’s going to abuse that same substance and hurt themselves or others. It’s why making drug related policy is so hard. You can’t assume all people will use anything responsibly, so you start from prohibition and loosen the rules accordingly. I don’t like it, but it’s how human nature works.
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It’s seen in a negative light where I live because a bunch of kids used this stuff (and still do) and ended up killing a bunch of others (look up “king punch”)
Bull, MDMA is near the bottom of the list when you’ve actually got MDMA… statistically, the odds of getting 100% MDMA in a pressie (pressed tablet)… the odds aren’t in you’re favour… I’ve seen ‘MDMA’ overdoses, foaming out the mouth, convulsing, collapsing, shaking etc… tell me that’s “the bottom of the list”… mdma when taken (and I believe Dutch mdma is 200mg per tablet) in a crowded, hot environment such as a club has the potential to be quite dangerous if the user doesn’t have access to water, has undiagnosed heart defects and/ or is prone to arrhythmia (anabolic steroids anyone?)… its dose dependent yes, but as iron yuppie said, most aren’t going to take 50-100mg… I know one guy (fucking idiot) who took 560mg in one go…
If you take a “few” ML too much you’ll die from fatal respiratory depression
And to say something is good because it’s safer than alcohol… alcohol is like… one the least safe drugs when consumed in excess, so that doesn’t mean much lol
But the element of permenant cognitive stunting, dependence and addiction does exist
I haven’t, that’s not to say I never will (lol I probably will at some point, in terms of harm induced it doesn’t appear to be exponential or on par with something that I’d never try like cocaine, mephedrone, NBOME, trenbolone, insulin, heroin or methamphetamine… but at the moment I’m abstaining from everything, I prefer these things to be incredibly infrequent, once in a blue moon type events… keeps it special when it does occur, and I don’t like something like this to be the sole focus of the night (alcohol or whatever substance of recreation is being used), as an additive it can make an already magical night unforgettable)… I’ve been dumb enough to try ketamine, so who knows (was trying to dance at a club but my fine motor skills were so impaired it was just me flopping my arms around, they’d just fall back to my sides)…
Now imagine that product was overdosed, that 5ml was 8ml… see what I’m getting at, the cross between recreation and… death is quite slim
I’m all for ending prohibition (within reason) and taking a legitimately scientific, harm minimisation style towards drug use, the Netherlands has done so with cannabis, psychedelics etc and overall overdose/drug related mortality relates (esp at clubs, music festivals etc) has been extremely low
If GHB was regulated and sold at say… 1.5ml a pop (and only that quantity per person)… eh… probably wouldn’t be the end of the world
That being said, I’m not for the legalisation of harder drugs like cocaine, methamphetamine, fentanyl etc
As @iron_yuppie stated, you’ll always have the morons who interfere… it’s why I actually prefer AAS be kept underground… with the mainstream appeal starting up we have guys running 2g tren on first cycles…
This is the Pharma section. Obviously were not all here following FDA guidelines. The man is sharing his experience. I get it. It’s not safe in general, but it’s a pharma tip if your looking for one. The site has become so “one upper” it’s almost predictable to open a thread and know who is chomping at the bit to tear someone apart. I appreciate people sharing real life experiences. It’s easy to google anything. But it’s nice having a natural conversation where someone shares their experience and thoughts of em. If were looking to experience that our self and neglect to study further that’s on us.
I didn’t tear him apart? (don’t know if this was a response to me)… I just wanted to point out there is reason as to why the public views GHB is a bad light… Yes, the reasoning is steeped in mass hysteria… and hypocrisy given the effects acquired from GHB in recreational dosages almost identically mirror that of being drunk without the added benefit of cardiac toxicity, nephrotoxicity, hepatotoxicity (you get the jist)…
The thing about the general populace (myself included) is that… we are stupid, we tend to fall head over heels for government propaganda, engrained societal ideologies etc… so if the mass says “drinking is okay, GHB is 1000x worse” we will tend to believe that… look at pot… the views harboured from baby boomers vs my generation… My generation (typically) looks at smoking a joint being akin to having a beer or two… you’ve got exceptions, like my twin brother who only thinks booze is okay, says… “but if it’s legalised everyone might start using, the population might become retarded” and it’s very hard to reason with people like this as despite being an incredibly intelligent bloke… He has engrained opinions stemming from reading propaganda/incorrect fact, won’t budge even if shown literature (partially because they’re not interested and/or don’t care and partially because they disown the notion of any kind of mind altering substance being used…) despite the fact that he tends to drink a little too much from time to time…
Regardless the views instilled upon us during our youth tend to be very difficult to change… given that a good portion of the populace (in my opinion) are sheep, unquestionably following every word of systemic societal expectation/tradition, there’s a reason as to why X is viewed in a bad light but Y isn’t… not to say it’s just… that’s just the way it is
Hate to bump an old thread but I’m wondering if you ever got much of a resolve from this, or anyone else that posted of similar sides? This is pretty much exactly what I’m going through after sarms. Hope you find peace brother
Might be worth checking my thread there may be information to help you on here, you’ll find people drift on and off this forum when it comes to this subject because thinking about it too much isn’t great for the mental health.
Best of luck bud and message me if you need