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Calling your daughter a hoe while walking towards her with a baseball bat as she cowers backwards…the white folk in that neighborhood who witnessed this are making arrangements to sell their house as we speak.[/quote]
While you are probably right, I for one would be proud to live next to him. Black/White whatever, he has my respect.[/quote]
Why exactly?
I see nothing wrong with sexting. It can be uncomfortable for a father, but this kind of oppresion is beyond my comprehension. [/quote]
That girl is way too young for that shit. Oppression? Are you for real? Taking away her cell phone, which I am sure he pays the bill for, is not oppression. [/quote]
Yes, I am for real. Recording this public humilliation, with a display of violence (against the phone) to teach a lesson is awful parenting, to begin with.
How old is she? I really can’t tell from the video (honestly), but I don’t see this man the kind that would sit to have a chat about the matter. It seems that destroying stuff with a baseball bat is his strategy.
Doesn’t seem to be working so far.
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^^ Let me guess…below the age of 30 & no kids[/quote]
Why would that be your guess? I agree that talking about it and not raging in front of the camera is the way to go. Has he made her fear him? Sure. Pretty sure he won’t be who she goes to when she needs someone to talk to. If he was someone she felt comfortable talking to, maybe he wouldn’t be having to worry about what is going on every minute of his child’s life. A big part of this is about control. We can counsel our children to make wise/informed decisions, but you can’t be there every minute to control them.
So you don’t have to guess, I’m 48 with two responsible daughters and I am way stricter than most of the parents of my kids peers. This was just theatrics.
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So your 15 year old daughters came and talked to you about sex?
I seriously doubt that this single incident has scarred this girl for life and made her fear her father. You notice she didn’t fight back or try to plead her case? She knew she fucked up. She followed him around the neighborhood. I would say that is a pretty good indication that this guy has a good relationship with his daughter.
Now the end when she starts to back away? I don’t think she is “cowering” out of fear because he has a bat in his hand, she is cowering from “the look”. Every girl knows that “look” your father gets when he is completely and utterly disappointed in you. My father never raised a hand to me, but you better believe his scowl could instantly bring me to tears.
And so you don’t have to guess, I was a virgin until I was 20 :p[/quote]
We have had age appropriate discussions about sex since about the age of six. If they have questions we try to answer them, about EVERYTHING. I never said she was cowering in fear of the bat, I don’t think that is the case. However, I do think if she needs to talk to him she will be much less inclined to if she thinks he will go off into a rage.
Yes, my children know the look, but I try not to follow it up with taping my anger and posting it on youtube for the world to see.
If my daughters CHOSE to be virgins at 20 I am fine with that, if they don’t I am also fine with it. I would like them to wait until they are mature enough to handle it and will be disappointed if they don’t, but in the end it is not up to me. It takes a while for some to learn that you can’t control other peoples actions. All I can do is teach them is to make safe, responsible choices and to respect themselves. I am not teaching them that human sexuality is something to be ashamed of and the girls that are taught that often go wild once unleashed.
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Age appropriate discussions are one thing, but talking to your dad about sexting is completely different. That’s experimentation. Now certainly the question exists whether this experimentation is the girl exploring her own sexuality or if she is doing it purely so that boys will like her more. That is a mature discussion you can have with your daughter. But, read some filth she wrote or walk in on her blowing a guy and the time for rational discussion is over. That’s when the “not in my house” rule comes into full effect.
I am not arguing that mature adult discussion about sex with your kids is very important. That’s something I did not get much of and look how I turned out 
All I am saying is that I don’t see how you can surmise that just because this guy smashed her phone that those conversations are not also happening.
Like I said, the girl seemed very respectful of her father. She wasn’t screaming or crying or anything (and the cowering remark was in reference to something someone else said). That, to me, speaks more about this guy’s parenting skills than a video of him smashing a phone. [/quote]
You’re right we don’t know if they talk, but I do know the madder I get the less discussion I get with my kids. When I get all authoritarian they shut down and the wall goes up. It doesn’t seem to me to be much of a leap to guess they are not talking a lot.
She does seem respectful to his face, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to compliance when he is not watching over her shoulder. Some of the most innocent seeming and respectful girls in front of their parents are some of the wildest ones when you get them alone. Forbidden fruit and all that.
There is a reason Frank Zappa wrote about Catholic girls. And for the poster that mentioned Anal sex being a jump, there are those that believe that by taking it in the bum you remain a virgin. Not implying thats how you remained a virgin until 20 though.
