Cylce Help Needed

Pharma / TRT
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Hi guys,
For my next cycle im stacking 1. Deca durabolin
2. Clomid
3. Either Anadrol or Dianabol.

I want to use either Anadrol or Dianabol for the first 4 weeks at least, just to provide an extra boost while the injectables kick in.

My question is i dont know which i should go for. Both are very powerful oral steroids but Anadrol is the most toxic so at the minuite im leaning towards D-bol.

The cycle will last 12 weeks with the Clomid used for 2 weeks after that to prevent muscle loss.

Any thoughts?

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you need to read up a bit more. this is not a very good stack.

You should run Deca with test or you run the risk of losing your libido during the cycle. Deca has very few sides such as hairloss, estrogen conversion, or agression but it is very suppressive to your balls and will turn into nortestosterone which can still cause gyno.

clomid is useless during a cycle it is used for recovery not mass retention.

Both Dbol and Adrol as liver toxic because they are 17AA oral steroids. Neither one should be taken at high doses for long periods. Both are effective though for putting on water weight quickly and increassing strength.

you have given no stats, goals, or doses (12 weeks at how many mg’s per week?)

Go back to the drawing board dude.

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Thanks for that, i want to run the Deca at 400mg a week, the Dianabol at 40mg a day

As you pointed out i missed an obvious ingredient which was testosterone which i will use at 500mg a week. It has to be at a higher dosage than the Deca to avoid the nasty side effects you talked about.

The test will last 12 weeks and deca will last for 10 weeks. The d-bol is for the first 4-6 weeks and so is used at the same time as Deca and Test.

Heres how it looks at present.

  1. Deca. 400mg(weekly)- 10 weeks

  2. Testosterone-E. 500mg(weekly)-12 weeks

  3. Dianabol.30 mg (per day)-4 weeks

    I appreciate your honest views so please be as blunt as possible, its why im on this forum!

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That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.[/quote]

Sounds like a winner. I have clomid on hand just in case I don’t respond to my other stuff, but I am running nolva post cycle cause I don’t wanna deal with clomid, heard too many horror stories-just ask Shamus. hahaha, I had to dime you out, sorry bout that.

I’d be intersted to hear how this cycle goes as I have something similar planned in the future.

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[quote]H-Train wrote:
sapasion wrote:
That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.

Sounds like a winner. I have clomid on hand just in case I don’t respond to my other stuff, but I am running nolva post cycle cause I don’t wanna deal with clomid, heard too many horror stories-just ask Shamus. hahaha, I had to dime you out, sorry bout that.

I’d be intersted to hear how this cycle goes as I have something similar planned in the future. [/quote]

Shit H, that wasn’t a dime, that was a fuckin’ 50 cent piece! So what, I got a little emotional, but I have since loaded up on every test boosting, estrgen suppressing pill and injection I can Get my hands on! LOL!!! Asshole… Now I’m gonna go shoot some more Test E just to regain my manhood! Go get some chocolate covered grasshoppers off a street vendor, Chinaman! (you know i’m f’n with ya H, you a cool cracker!)

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[quote]shamus wrote:
H-Train wrote:
sapasion wrote:
That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.

Sounds like a winner. I have clomid on hand just in case I don’t respond to my other stuff, but I am running nolva post cycle cause I don’t wanna deal with clomid, heard too many horror stories-just ask Shamus. hahaha, I had to dime you out, sorry bout that.

I’d be intersted to hear how this cycle goes as I have something similar planned in the future.

Shit H, that wasn’t a dime, that was a fuckin’ 50 cent piece! So what, I got a little emotional, but I have since loaded up on every test boosting, estrgen suppressing pill and injection I can Get my hands on! LOL!!! Asshole… Now I’m gonna go shoot some more Test E just to regain my manhood! Go get some chocolate covered grasshoppers off a street vendor, Chinaman! (you know i’m f’n with ya H, you a cool cracker!)[/quote]

HAHAHAHA!!! I actually ate snake a few months back and damn that shit is nasty.

My friend is on this big kick right now about bull’s goodies soup. Oh yea, that’s right, the bull’s cock 'n balls cut up into pieces and cooked into a soup. Everyone I’ve talked to that eats it said they can pound like a champ, maybe give their girl a good 7 or 8 quality rounds in a night. I’m not sure yet because I’m too scared to try it. I’d rather take cialis.

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[quote]H-Train wrote:

My friend is on this big kick right now about bull’s goodies soup. Oh yea, that’s right, the bull’s cock 'n balls cut up into pieces and cooked into a soup. Everyone I’ve talked to that eats it said they can pound like a champ, maybe give their girl a good 7 or 8 quality rounds in a night. I’m not sure yet because I’m too scared to try it. I’d rather take cialis. [/quote]

We have a cafe here in town that serves calf fries every Thursday.

You can’t find a seat the place is so packed.

calf fries = bovine testicles.

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A few years ago, I was, uh, getting my hands on large quantities of Ex. Well, the doc I had gave me some Levitra, My buddy’s girl was a Pfizer rep, she gave me some Viagra, and my girlfriend got her Doc to give me some Cialis! Holy shit, I hooked up with a little 105 lb. hunny and I took about 2 tabs of the ex, and in my stupid state, I took one of each of those mentioned! Dude, from Friday til sunday morning, I didn’t sleep nor did I pull my wanker outta that chick! Poor thing fell in love, and my ass just wanted to bust one and get her out the door! And I didn’t eat no Ball soup, or fries! Friggin’ my life has been a chemistry experiment!

[quote]H-Train wrote:
shamus wrote:
H-Train wrote:
sapasion wrote:
That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.

Sounds like a winner. I have clomid on hand just in case I don’t respond to my other stuff, but I am running nolva post cycle cause I don’t wanna deal with clomid, heard too many horror stories-just ask Shamus. hahaha, I had to dime you out, sorry bout that.

I’d be intersted to hear how this cycle goes as I have something similar planned in the future.

Shit H, that wasn’t a dime, that was a fuckin’ 50 cent piece! So what, I got a little emotional, but I have since loaded up on every test boosting, estrgen suppressing pill and injection I can Get my hands on! LOL!!! Asshole… Now I’m gonna go shoot some more Test E just to regain my manhood! Go get some chocolate covered grasshoppers off a street vendor, Chinaman! (you know i’m f’n with ya H, you a cool cracker!)

HAHAHAHA!!! I actually ate snake a few months back and damn that shit is nasty.

My friend is on this big kick right now about bull’s goodies soup. Oh yea, that’s right, the bull’s cock 'n balls cut up into pieces and cooked into a soup. Everyone I’ve talked to that eats it said they can pound like a champ, maybe give their girl a good 7 or 8 quality rounds in a night. I’m not sure yet because I’m too scared to try it. I’d rather take cialis. [/quote]

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[quote]H-Train wrote:
sapasion wrote:
That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.

Sounds like a winner. I have clomid on hand just in case I don’t respond to my other stuff, but I am running nolva post cycle cause I don’t wanna deal with clomid, heard too many horror stories-just ask Shamus. hahaha, I had to dime you out, sorry bout that.

I’d be intersted to hear how this cycle goes as I have something similar planned in the future. [/quote]
Many prefer Nolva to clomid I know I do

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Thats interesting, as Shamus was telling me about clomid LOL.

Do you know which is the more expensive, clomid or Nolva? I would think Nolva as 20mg is equivilent to 150mg of Clomid.

Let me know if you do,
Ron

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[quote]shamus wrote:
A few years ago, I was, uh, getting my hands on large quantities of Ex. Well, the doc I had gave me some Levitra, My buddy’s girl was a Pfizer rep, she gave me some Viagra, and my girlfriend got her Doc to give me some Cialis! Holy shit, I hooked up with a little 105 lb. hunny and I took about 2 tabs of the ex, and in my stupid state, I took one of each of those mentioned! Dude, from Friday til sunday morning, I didn’t sleep nor did I pull my wanker outta that chick! Poor thing fell in love, and my ass just wanted to bust one and get her out the door! And I didn’t eat no Ball soup, or fries! Friggin’ my life has been a chemistry experiment!

H-Train wrote:
shamus wrote:
H-Train wrote:
sapasion wrote:
That looks much better. The good ole trifecta as I call it.

Sounds like a winner. I have clomid on hand just in case I don’t respond to my other stuff, but I am running nolva post cycle cause I don’t wanna deal with clomid, heard too many horror stories-just ask Shamus. hahaha, I had to dime you out, sorry bout that.

I’d be intersted to hear how this cycle goes as I have something similar planned in the future.

Shit H, that wasn’t a dime, that was a fuckin’ 50 cent piece! So what, I got a little emotional, but I have since loaded up on every test boosting, estrgen suppressing pill and injection I can Get my hands on! LOL!!! Asshole… Now I’m gonna go shoot some more Test E just to regain my manhood! Go get some chocolate covered grasshoppers off a street vendor, Chinaman! (you know i’m f’n with ya H, you a cool cracker!)

HAHAHAHA!!! I actually ate snake a few months back and damn that shit is nasty.

My friend is on this big kick right now about bull’s goodies soup. Oh yea, that’s right, the bull’s cock 'n balls cut up into pieces and cooked into a soup. Everyone I’ve talked to that eats it said they can pound like a champ, maybe give their girl a good 7 or 8 quality rounds in a night. I’m not sure yet because I’m too scared to try it. I’d rather take cialis.

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You can get viagra here over the counter, it’s no big deal. This girl I was dating was telling me about this guy she went to high school with. Apparently he got 2 viagra pills and thought it would be funny to take them both at the same time. Well apparently his chinese wanger was so full of blood that it was causing him EXTREME pain.

This idiot waited almost 2 days until the pain was so intense that he had to go to the hospital and they had to do some kind of a procedure. What a douche. I know guys that take a quarter-tab and hump like jackrabbits all night. Shamus, I can’t imagine taking both viagra and cialis at the same time!! hahahaha You gonna do it again some time? You could decomm your girlfriend…

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[quote]roninternational wrote:
Thats interesting, as Shamus was telling me about clomid LOL.

Im asking my supplier but do you know which is the more expensive, clomid or Nolva? I would think Nolva as 20mg is equivilent to 150mg of Clomid.

Let me know if you know,
Ron[/quote]

For me nolva (tamoxifen citrate) is $18 for sixty 10mg tabs. Clomid (clomifene citrate) is $8 for fifteen 50mg tabs.

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Pill wise Nolva is much cheaper. A 20mg Nolva is usallly the same as a 50mg Clomid. And most people for PCT only go up as high as 40mg’s and then taper down. For Clomid 150mg’s is a much more common starting point and then tapering down.

Research chemical wise they’re about the same price for the appropriate dosage.

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thanks