This is pretty much why I decided on tamoxifen over Arimidex. Didn’t want to fuck up bone density or lipids any more that they already were! I really didn’t want to take anything if I’m honest but E2 got to 168 pmol/L and I was getting a lot of itching in the cheast area which was driving me crazy. Took 20mg daily and am now on 10mg daily because I have lowered my test dose a lot.
I have a couple of questions if you don’t mind.
Ideally I would like to stop the tamoxifen if possible now I’ve lowered my test dose. Not sure if being on tamoxifen for life is a bad thing? So what would be your thoughts on me stopping?
When would you normally start to prescribe tamoxifen with your patients? If their E2 gets above a certain level or do you just go off how they feel? Just curious (;
@physioLojik. or anyone else that can answer, I may have misunderstood but for clarification does tamoxifen work with both E control and spermatogenesis? I’m currently taking an AI with TRT cream but have been trying to minimize it as much as possible and not of fan of my balls shrinking and pulling up high and tight. If that is the case I really would like to talk to my doc about it and be able to nail two birds with one stone.
So good to hear you I have been on 300 mg of test SQ injections of 150 mg twice a week. the Deca is 400 a week. The Deca is 200/cc so 2 ccs can be a big shot. Wish I could find a high concentration so I can increase the dose. Have you considered anything other than Deca. I use it because it is a basic Rx with no complications
This is a 3 month bump, but I will ask you this @BuddyL
Do you have a doctor prescribing you 300mg test/wk + 400mg nandrolone/wk?
Is the 300mg/wk (test) what you require for therapeutic reasons or is it a prescribed supraphysiologic dose. I’ve heard of doctors prescribing 500mg test/wk + however these tend to be at certain clinics which people come in, get a prescription and walk out with a large hole in their wallet (fair enough though, I’d pay absurd sums of cash for anabolic steroids if I could get them legally)
Whats the nandrolone for? 400mg seems a bit much for therapeutic purposes (typically related to anecdotal reports of nandrolone aiding with joint pain), I assume it’s prescribed for bodybuilding and/or a muscle wasting disease then.
oxandrolone, oxymetholone, fluoxymesterone and methyltestosterone still exist on the US market, I don’t believe stanozolol is on anymore, however one may be able to acquire it from a compounding pharmacy. These compound however are unsuitable for long term use (aside from very low dosages used for HRT, although even then an elevated risk of hepatic abnormalities and long term cardiovascular mortality will likely exist).
Nandrolone isn’t great for long term use either, data is lacking however in vitro nandrolone at very high concentrations has been demonstrated to be far more damaging to endothelial cells than testosterone, numerous rodent/animal models demonstrate a profound effect of nandrolone on dopamine receptor density, mRNA expression, output and an effect on serotonin depletion also appears to be present. Testosterone does down regulate the effects of dopamine as initial up regulation of dopamine receptors will cause the body to downregulate it’s response to dopamine over time (hence the initial on cycle effect tapering off), however the neuro sides (and potential neurotoxicity) of nandrolone appears to somewhat surpass that of testosterone, as does the potential for cardiotoxicity. I found the stuff was great for pain, however I never used it for longer than 3 weeks. The ridiculously long detection time and potential long term side effects put me off. However I’d be more than comfortable taking it if I had a prescription for it (even a shady, Florida anti aging clinic prescription)
Nandrolone however does appear to effect everyone differently, it appears some can run it for ages without any issues.
Thank you for your reply. The testis MD ordered. Test Cup 200mg/ml. I take .7 ml twice a week SQ Next levels to be taken this summer sometime. The Deca is on my own. Using it now for 16 weeks, I started going to the gym 3-4 times a week and have a trainer once a week to keep me focused. I have seen physical changes now that I have stuck to a routine and keep a journal. I feel great and enjoy the changes that I am going thru. Currently 12 % BF and 184 lbs. I actually own a chest now. Well ask the MD if we can go up on the test cyp. Thanks for hearing me out
My test levels are right in the middle normal. When we discovered I needed TRT my test was n\below normal range and I was so down. So much better now and have energy. Now that I have put on some muscle I feel so much better because I want to work and and as a result I feel great. So much better than the skinny bullied kid.
Nandrolone phenylpropionate. It’s a short ester nandrolone that takes effect very fast and leaves the system much more quickly than deca. Comes with some added downsides as well, unfortunately.