@unreal24278 I wouldn’t worry about nandrolone causing dopamine depletion since testosterone elevates dopamine. My advice to you is this - if using nandrolone for joint health, use 50/100mg a week. That’s way more than enough for joint benefits. You’ve been through a ton health wise and I’m constantly impressed by your ability to continue training through all of it and also by your knowledge, especially at your age.
Do you do yoga or go for walks? I find some of the most beneficial things to help with joint pain are activities involving parasympathetic nourishment. I do yoga x3 a week and go for at least 2 3 mile walks outside a week. These things truly help.
@physioLojik Im a silent follower of this thread. Seems like you are one who knows something and I really appreciate that you share it with us.
Im just 2 weeks into my first cycle ever. I pin 125mg TestE e3d subQ and take 10 mg of tamox e2d. Everyone here told me I need to take an AI but I did not listen and I feel great. OK, its only 2 weeks in that cycle but no sides at all so far. If this doesnt change and my bloodwork is cool after 8 weeks, I consider to cruise on that dose. Im 34, no kids are planned and my wife is cool with it. Maybe it would be healthier than a cycle 1 or 2 times a year.
But isnt there any danger with longterm use of tamox?
Supps I use daily:
150 mg zinc gluconat
800 mg magnesium citrat
6 g Vitamin B5 ( because I had acne as teen and want to prevent oily scin)
5 g fishoil
4000 IU Vitamin D
250 mcq Vitamin K2
Milk Thistle 500mg
Any suggestions?
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@pumping_kairon Hey man. Def don’t use an AI. The only thing that sticks out to me is the extremely high dosage of zinc. Unless you meant 15mg. At 150mg you’re going to deplete your copper levels which is bad. I would lower the zinc down to 50mg a day at this point. Your tamoxifen dose is also low and not a cause for concern 
thanks for the answer. 150 mg zinc gluconate is around 21 mg of elementary zinc. But youre right I should lower the dose a bit. I didnt took an AI because its hard to find and super expensive here in Germany. Tamox is cheap and available.
My bloodtest will decide if I stay on for maybe forever or if I cycle off. Could I use 10mg of Dianabol every moring in my PCT to prevent excess cortisol and not get “PMS” while on Clomid and still recover? I read that is possible. What do you think about it?
By the way, me and my wife we love indian food! Sometimes we cook it by ourselves but mainly we go to indian restaurants. Youre so lucky you get this food on a daily base man, but I think you already know this. But why you take curcumin? I mean, isnt indian food full of it? Would you recommend it even if I already take milk thistle?
@physioLojik
So as for walks, to get to school I have to walk around half a kilometre up my driveway (I live on farmland) to catch the bus
I have a crude home gym (barbells and dumbbells with attatchable weights, crudely made dip bar and pull-up bar, two benches (one for bench press and other to do flies, rows etc and a gym membership, to get to gym I generally cycle 6-7km there and back if that counts as walking, I find it the low intensity’s aerobic exercise (the bike ride) to be relaxing and serves as decent warm up. I could probs drive but I don’t feel as if the extra money spent on gas would be worth it.
As to yoga, not frequently, however when I do yoga I’m very good at it as I’m very flexible
Sometimes I go on hikes, however a hike is typically all day and means I walk 20-30km, I like the scenery around me, there’s some really beautiful hiking trails in Aus.
@pumping_kairon don’t take dbol during pct, this will only prolong the inevitable post cycle crash. The purpose of PCT is to stimulate the body to produce more LH and FSH via the use of SERMS, as the bodies LH and FSH increases at a faster rate testosterone production ramps up faster than what’s would occur without PCT and more muscle mass can be kept. During pct cortisol will briefly take over as the dominant hormone and I don’t think there’s anything you can really do about it, just train hard and consume the right amount of nutrients to keep as much gainzzzz as possible. Adding dbol, even at 10mg will still produce a negative feedback loop via the hypothalamus/ anterior pituitary which will inhibit gonadotropin production via LH and FSH therefore destroying the entire purpose of PCT, causing further HPTA suppression during PCT is counterproductive.
250mg is pretty low For a cycle, it may not even get you to pharmacological concentrations of testosterone (which is required to build muscle mass) unless you are a hypogonadal male in which case physiologic or high normal levels can make a hell of a difference, on the other hand 250mg may get you high enough, only way to know is with a blood test. I’m no expert but for a first cycle I’d reccommend over 250mg/wk.
Also, lower zinc dose and you could slightly increase vit D dose, esp if you are vit D deficient
I read it in the newbie section here. There was written that a low dose of dbol doesnt do much on LH and FSH. But I hope I dont have to Off-Cycle anyway.
My natural T is in the lower normal range (Normal was 3-11 and I was at 4) and I think after a decade of Training theres not much more to gain naturally. I inject 125mg e3d wich is the equivalent of 290mg a week. I do it this low because I wanted to know how I react on test. Yeas I know Im a super afraid chicken but I know some guys who made good results on it. If I still got no sides and good blood result 2 month from now, I’ll continue to cruise on that dose and double it for a blast once a year. Thanks for your awnser. I’ll lower the zinc dose.
125mg e3d is 290mg/wk, yep sorry I read the intitial post wrong. 290mg/wk, although a low dose is understandable for a first time in a cautious individual, I’m similar with regards to caution albeit not quite as conservative as you are.
I don’t think you’re a “chicken”, quite the contrary. I admire the fact you are sticking to your gut and starting at a lower dose despite the common answer “you must do 500mg to get gains”. Medical literature has shown that 300mg/wk can cause gains in lean mass in healthy individuals, given your TT seems on the low side (we need SHBG, albumin, free T, LH and FSH for a diagnosis of primary or secondary hypogonadism or just sub normal testosterone) 290mg could make a whole world of difference. After the cycle is over I personally don’t see a reason why you should stay at 290mg, your body will eventually get used to the dose, homeostasis will kick in and gains will taper out, the only increase will be hematocrit/RBC count which creates a situation in which the risk outweighs the benefit. It would be more sensible to cruise at a lower dose like 200mg and blast at a higher dose. The exception to this rule comes in cases like the individual whose forum this is (people like me keep hijacking this forum 
) who has a level of muscle mass that is higher than what his genetics would naturally allow him to carry therefore one has to cruise at a dose of testosterone that would bring one to slightly higher than physiologic levels or even full on supraphysiologic levels in order to maintain the large amount of muscle mass they have accrued over time.
Given that you said you’ve been training for a decade though maybe you do require a higher cruise dose post cycle, it’s all speculative and you won’t know until you’ve tested said theories out.
Once again… don’t run DBOL post cycle
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Thanks man. I know, it all depends on blood levels and personal experiences. I know a guy whos on test 13 years straight. He cruises on 750mg / week. Until now, he didnt visit a doctor since 5 yrs because he was afraid of the result. But everything is ok. And he doenst even use nolva or an AI. He never used it. No joke. But that doesnt mean I couldnt get problems crusing on 100mg. I’m aware of it. So I’ll try and error. I’m on the dark side since 2 weeks. Everything is fine. No sides. But I dont know my blood levels yet. Maybe I’m already fucked or I’ll get visible sides in 2 weeks. Who knows. I see it as experiment for myself. My wife already noticed some gains and my libido is through the roof. So far, I’m hooked 
Nice man. The reality of it is that drinking alcohol is more dangerous than using testosterone. It sounds stupid yet it it’s quite true. Testosterone is a safe drug. The dangerous drugs are fuckin AI and other ancillary compounds.
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I was under the assumption excess alcohol consumption potentially causes various issues such as cirrohsis of the liver, dialated cardiomyopathy, damage to the esophagus and about ten trillion other issues, however is the occasional beer or two THAT much of an issue long term?
I dont think so. Too much of everything is dangerous. I had a fatty liver syndrom (gone now) just from eating shit. I ate french fries almost every day for a year and ended up with a fatty liver so my doc thought I’m an alcoholic
No way. That wasn’t what I meant. I meant that the dangers of test are way and extremely blown out of proportion. I have a glass or two of wine once or so a week and I have perfect bloods lol
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@physioLojik hey doc, if you remember, I reduced my Test dose and stopped my Adex a month or two ago. I’ve been feeling great, great libido and erections. However I seem to be gaining belly fat and I’m definitely getting bloated more when I eat causing my belly to round out. Could these be related to the higher E2? Should I get on nolvadex? Any other thoughts?
Thanks!
@physioLojik
I read a lot about metformin and its really interesting. I dont see any disadvantages but I would like to talk to someone experienced. Maybe u can help me out. I would really appreciate it.
So: do you use it only in cutting cycles?
Would 1000 mg 2 times a day be enough for a 200 lbs man?
Would it be safe for a non diabetic women?
I’ve also been looking at the benefits of metformin and found this video helpful…
I’m sure Physio will offer some insights too 
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@pumping_kairon @flatdanny hello guys! I LOVE metformin. I use 500mg BID. I don’t see a need to go above that in non diabetics. I use it year round (the only time I come off is when I run humalog on cycle which is rare these days).
My wife uses the same dosage as me - so yes it’s super safe.
Thanks for the video man! Good stuff.
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Nothing else has changed? Same diet same training same food?
thanks for your reply. my intention to take it was to not get too fat in a bulking cycle. I’m 500 calories above maintenance level.
Defo seems to be an amazing drug Physio… The main reason I was considering taking metformin was to help decrease inflammation and visceral fat. (I have scleroderma)
One thing I’m not 100% sure about is if it’s safe to use if I’ve had hepatitis b? I only recently found out I’d had it and there was evidence I’d built up decent antibodies to the virus. Do you think it’s an issue?
Yes. In fact I’d say that calories have gone down some since I’m not actively bulking like I was on the Dbol.
