- Do you personally believe nandrolone helps with joint pain or (in your opinion) is it false hope people cling on to?
In my personal experience I found that it helped quite a bit, especially for my shoulders which are the equivalent of a 192-year old’s in relation to pressing exercises. It allowed me to do certain exercises that I’d otherwise not been able to do without pain that was severe enough to warrant me completely stopping said exercises.
Recently my joint pain has ramped up in severity, comparable to how it was a while ago but not QUITE as bad. it’s constantly nagging and irritating me throughout the day, it’s bad sometimes. Today I stopped my workout halfway through, I was thinking “Fuck I can’t take this” … I wonder if I have osteoarthritis, I do have benign joint hypermobility syndrome, I believe this can cause increased stress on various joints and cause osteoarthritis to develop at a young age. It’s not extreme hypermobility and I know for a fact I don’t have any heart defects as they can be associated with BJHMS because I was checked when I was born (I was born 7 months old or something, premature, prognosis was grim… somehow, I managed to NOT die though…)
The only thing that helped more than nandrolone was opioid pain medication, I used them them very sparingly, (aside from one time when I used them for a semi prolonged period) specifically tapentadol as literature has shown it has minimal to no effect on exogenous testosterone production (not a problem now) also it was the only one that didn’t make me feel sick. I’m not proud of it but I took one today (I have legitimate prescriptions for the pain meds, scripted for moderate to severe persisting chronic pain non responsive to non-opiates) and this was the first time I’d taken in quite a while. I hate taking them, they negatively impact my cognitive functioning which is a problem for me, it’s going to be hard to get into medicine, negatively affected cognitive function may make it impossible. I tried many other forms of holistic therapy to no success and other medications supposedly said to help with pain, (that didn’t, but were associated with some nasty side effects, whether this contributed to me developing hypogonadism I will never know, however given that my problem appears to be primary rather than secondary I don’t think so… my gonadotropins are mid-upper range on trt), however I do wonder what caused this issue, could it be all the radiation I’ve been exposed to via CT scans, x-rays etc., seminiferous tubules failure (very rare). It doesn’t make sense that I had precocious puberty with a relatively high natural testosterone production (up in the 1000’s when I was 14) yet my natty T dipped to 250ng/dl and was low for a prolonged period without recovering before I went on TRT. Pain meds have always been an absolute last resort for me
I may postpone my test cycle which was going to commence in September and give NPP/deca another shot if my pain persists, it’s a mildly tough situation, when I think of potential long term consequences of opiate use vs the potential long term consequences of using nandrolone… nandrolone actually seems safer, surely it will shorten my lifespan, but I somehow doubt I’m destined to live a long life regardless and I’d rather live a life where I can function adequately than one where I’m constantly in moderate to severe pain that makes me tired all the time and sucks the joy out of everything. I don’t want to live life doped out either.
I recently saw a post where you said the cardiac issues arising from long term nandrolone use aren’t worth it, I’m not so sure I agree with this as I would rather live a happy life and die with cardiac issues than a life of pain and being constantly spaced out. I understand if you don’t feel comfortable answering this question but, in your opinion, which is less dangerous long term, pain medication or 19-nortestosterone. Also, since nandrolone has an impact on various neurotransmitters in the brain and can deplete dopamine, would it be a fair guess to say nandrolone would also interfere with my ability to study and learn?
Sorry for long post, also yeet i’m number 200 @physioLojik