Cycle Log Coming

Congratulation on the move Physio. Exciting time ahead for you guys!

Interesting about taking on EU patients. Would that mean people would need to visit your clinic or is there any way something could be setup remotely? There really is a massive need to your services outside of the US.

Damn dude! That’s crazy. You make me want to run out and get deca and GH. I do plan on another blast this winter. Probably with deca or npp.

I ran some numbers for me and the wife to run GH for six months, me at 5 IU and her at 2 IU/day and it was going to be about $2k from a good UGL. That’s just hard to justify right now.

I’m doing good. Glad you’re moving. I’ve spent my life in the western states (with a couple of years in TN). I think you and your family will like it.

Better watch out for good Mexican food, that stuff will blur your abs! :joy:

@studhammer haha yea it can get pricey. Scripts aren’t much better.

Cycle is good. Not my fav tho. My next cycle will be back to tried and true test / eq / humalog / growth. Haha :slight_smile:

And I love Mexican food. Dude I eat a munumental amount of food. Not worried about the abs haha

@physioLojik you just have to recommend a “friend” that just happens to live where you do, look like you do, and think exactly like you do. I mean pretty sure there are thousands of endos that are 270 and cut lol. Looking great man!

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There’s thousands of endos that weigh 270, that part is true, but it isn’t from muscle mass… @getcutgetbutt

(not dissing endocrinologists or the medical community, just stating what I’ve seen)

@physioLojik damn you’re HUGE! As to your next cycle, why do you like EQ so much? What’s so great about it compared to nandrolone or test, also does it really increase hematocrit/RBC count more than others or is that broscience.

@unreal24278 hey bro! Honestly I’ve always had good luck with eq. It’s mild, def helps with food for me, and for sure the rbc increase is real. that being said - I have three favorite drugs and here they are - they truly are the drugs that build a physique better than any others IMO - Test, insulin, and growth. If I could only run three things forever for growth cycles it would be them. 600-750 mg t, 5 iu humalog pre workout and 5 iu growth post workout. Obviously tren is right after these guys haha :slight_smile:

@getcutgetbutt hahaha thanks man! I appreciate that.

So I’m aware of how insulin works synergistically with anabolic steroids with regards to enhanced shuttling of nutrients and whatnot however here’s what I’m curious about. Whenever you inject insulin aren’t you worried about the possibility of going into a diabetic coma? Surely this has to be a possibility if one doesn’t get in enough carbohydrates fast enough. @physioLojik

HGH sounds awesome, I should’ve gotten it prescribed to me as a kid, maybe i’d be taller than I am now… Oh well not that big of a deal, gives me an advantage in bodybuilding. I have impaired glucose tolerance and insulin sensitivity for God knows what reason (low SHBG) therefore I wouldn’t touch it now (going to try get a script for Metformin)

An interesting development occured (I’m not sure where I’m supposed to put this so I decided I’d just share it here). So ive been having tachycardia, minor heart palpitations and a high resting heart rate and I was wondering what was up and I got anxious thinking maybe I somehow acquired cardiomyopathy growing up. Eventually I decided to check my blood pressure (manually, stethoscope and the arm cuff thing) and to my surprise it was 150/80!!! I got a doctor to check it and it said the same thing, the doc checked twice because last time it was like 90/60… I came to the conclusion the anavar I have probably isn’t Anavar at all and may either be a dbol/winny combo, be cut with a stimulant such as Clenbuterol or maybe I’m just sensitive to var. I’m going with the dbol idea as I’ve noticed some water retention around my face. Either that or TRT has nearly doubled my blood pressure which I somehow doubt. Anyway as a possible warning to anyone thinking about purchasing oxandrolone from a UGL… don’t… Blood pressure isn’t something to fuck around with. #leftventricularhypertrophhhhyyy

@unreal24278 hey man. Yes you need to make sure you get between 80-100 g carbs during your workout for sure. I usually use plazma from here and occasionally other alternatives.

Metformin is a good drug. The AMPK limiting muscle gain shit is BS if you’re training hard. My wife uses metformin at a very low dose (500mg once a day) for anti aging benefits. When I don’t use humalog I use it as well but at 1000 mg a day.

As far as your BP issue - sometimes DHT based gear can def increase BP. So it’s quite possible it is legit anavar and you’re sensitive to it. Personally I hate anavar. I always have haha. That being said I basically hate all orals except for the occasional dbol kicker - liver health matters too much to me and I like to have a few glasses of wine a week so I don’t need to give it any more to deal with :slight_smile: my wife has used anavar before and had decent results. I just think there are much better choices. I’d rather see you use More test and say bye to orals.

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I have a question regarding the hgh. I have used it before mostly to help heal faster after surgery. I took 3 ius ed for 6 months on two occasions, injecting first thing in the morning upon waking because I understood this would have the least impact on my natural production. I also didn’t eat for an hour or so afterwards because I read that carb intake with the hgh could have negative impacts on blood sugar. My questions are what are your feelings about this since you were ingesting carbs so close to your hgh dosage and unless your workouts were A.M. hgh was taken closer to sleeping when natural hgh production is highest.

  • is there a scientific explanation as to why 19-nortestosterone helps with joint pain? I’ve seen a fair amount of bro-science on the topic with which people have come to various conclusions as to the mechanism behind it, however I tend to take bro-science with a grain of salt.

  • Do you believe in the concept of frontloading medium-long estered gear in order to reach peak blood concentration faster?

  • does polypharmacy with regards to AAS increase or decrease the risks of adverse effects

  • is there a vast difference in overall accrued muscle mass from say 300-350mg vs 450mg of test weekly, at what point does supraphysiologic doses of testosterone become significantly risky (dose wise), I get it if you don’t feel comfortable asking this question however I’m asking it because I’m planning a quasi blast and I’m unsure on what dose to use as I don’t want to endanger myself yet I do want to be satisfied with the results, and given the quick, dramatic results steroids give in terms of body composition I do wonder if something so amazing could possibly be safe or whether it’s a whatever good it’s doing there’s an equal amount of bad thing. Nothing is set in stone though, my joints started seriously acting up again and if they continue like this it’ll just be trt+small dose of NPP #chronicpain #ow

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Hey brother. Let me respond to each question respectively.

  1. everything relating to 19 nor helping joints is speculative. Some people actually get zero benefit from it and some others feel it’s the fountain of youth.

  2. I don’t think front loading is worth shit.

  3. I think that’s dose and drug dependant. Test deca or test eq not so much. Test tren More likely.

  4. there is a direct linear correlation with dose and muscle mass. The issue I have is when guys load assloads of gear with very little experience and don’t know how to eat or train yet and then say the gear didn’t work lol. As far as risk - that’s highly individual. I think AAS risk is extremely overstated. I personally don’t go over 800mg t a week. I really like 600 for extended cycles and crushing at 300.

@unreal24278

I really like growth PW. I get the benefits of it and then I also get my own production at night. It takes a decent amount of growth to mess with your own production. My workouts are also usually around 7am. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the detailed response, it was along the lines of what I expected. Most likely scenario is I’m going to start very low, slightly over 300mg/wk for 10-12wks, I’m not in a rush and I believe it’s best to start low to see how one reacts.

According to the clinical data I have seen, 300mg/wk is sufficient to see increases in Lean mass in regular adult men. Accrued lean mass was in the 7-12lb range in some of these studies and I believe most were with absence of weight training. That being said these guys were probably untrained average joes. If I put on 12 lbs of lean mass (very unlikely) I’ll be hovering around 168lb at 5,5 with a very low body fat percentage as I’m currently relatively lean which isn’t big but it’s not bad either, 180-190 is my goal weight. I also don’t know if the studies took into account water and possible sodium retention as 7-12 lbs of lean mass seems like an awful lot.

Clinical data from what I’ve seen states supraphysiologic doses of testosterone doesn’t have a positive effect on libido in healthy normal men, is this true? One would think all the excess dihydrotestosterone would be a potent stimulator of libido.

Haha awesome man. Anytime I up the dosage I get a high libido response. The number one hormone for libido is estrogen - both on its own as well as its impact on neurotransmitters. It’s why all these guys running around trying to sink their estrogen and then complain about low libido and ED just aren’t seeing things correctly.

Def Start a log man and I’ll check in.

I want to second this statement. Ever since I got off Adex and increased my E2 while keeping my T levels greater than 800, my libido and erection quality have never been better.

@physioLojik, I just want to say thank you for your time and contributions to this forum. I know you’ve helped me out and I’m sure others feel the same.

I assume you will take a short hiatus during your upcoming move and getting settled?

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@studhammer thanks man!!! I really appreciate that. It’s always been my goal to help as many people as possible! There was a LOT of wrong info being thrown around this place so I’m happy to help! I’ll try my best to check in daily for you guys! Thanks again!!!

  • Do you personally believe nandrolone helps with joint pain or (in your opinion) is it false hope people cling on to?

In my personal experience I found that it helped quite a bit, especially for my shoulders which are the equivalent of a 192-year old’s in relation to pressing exercises. It allowed me to do certain exercises that I’d otherwise not been able to do without pain that was severe enough to warrant me completely stopping said exercises.

Recently my joint pain has ramped up in severity, comparable to how it was a while ago but not QUITE as bad. it’s constantly nagging and irritating me throughout the day, it’s bad sometimes. Today I stopped my workout halfway through, I was thinking “Fuck I can’t take this” … I wonder if I have osteoarthritis, I do have benign joint hypermobility syndrome, I believe this can cause increased stress on various joints and cause osteoarthritis to develop at a young age. It’s not extreme hypermobility and I know for a fact I don’t have any heart defects as they can be associated with BJHMS because I was checked when I was born (I was born 7 months old or something, premature, prognosis was grim… somehow, I managed to NOT die though…)

The only thing that helped more than nandrolone was opioid pain medication, I used them them very sparingly, (aside from one time when I used them for a semi prolonged period) specifically tapentadol as literature has shown it has minimal to no effect on exogenous testosterone production (not a problem now) also it was the only one that didn’t make me feel sick. I’m not proud of it but I took one today (I have legitimate prescriptions for the pain meds, scripted for moderate to severe persisting chronic pain non responsive to non-opiates) and this was the first time I’d taken in quite a while. I hate taking them, they negatively impact my cognitive functioning which is a problem for me, it’s going to be hard to get into medicine, negatively affected cognitive function may make it impossible. I tried many other forms of holistic therapy to no success and other medications supposedly said to help with pain, (that didn’t, but were associated with some nasty side effects, whether this contributed to me developing hypogonadism I will never know, however given that my problem appears to be primary rather than secondary I don’t think so… my gonadotropins are mid-upper range on trt), however I do wonder what caused this issue, could it be all the radiation I’ve been exposed to via CT scans, x-rays etc., seminiferous tubules failure (very rare). It doesn’t make sense that I had precocious puberty with a relatively high natural testosterone production (up in the 1000’s when I was 14) yet my natty T dipped to 250ng/dl and was low for a prolonged period without recovering before I went on TRT. Pain meds have always been an absolute last resort for me

I may postpone my test cycle which was going to commence in September and give NPP/deca another shot if my pain persists, it’s a mildly tough situation, when I think of potential long term consequences of opiate use vs the potential long term consequences of using nandrolone… nandrolone actually seems safer, surely it will shorten my lifespan, but I somehow doubt I’m destined to live a long life regardless and I’d rather live a life where I can function adequately than one where I’m constantly in moderate to severe pain that makes me tired all the time and sucks the joy out of everything. I don’t want to live life doped out either.

I recently saw a post where you said the cardiac issues arising from long term nandrolone use aren’t worth it, I’m not so sure I agree with this as I would rather live a happy life and die with cardiac issues than a life of pain and being constantly spaced out. I understand if you don’t feel comfortable answering this question but, in your opinion, which is less dangerous long term, pain medication or 19-nortestosterone. Also, since nandrolone has an impact on various neurotransmitters in the brain and can deplete dopamine, would it be a fair guess to say nandrolone would also interfere with my ability to study and learn?

Sorry for long post, also yeet i’m number 200 @physioLojik

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