[quote]alpha_mike wrote:
I’m blown away by how not serious people are not taking this.
This was an act of terrorism. The hack was an invasion/infiltration. Blackmail, coercion, and the threat of “9-11 style attacks” on movie theatres that would screen this movie? Think of the precedent this will set. I’m not trying to be dramatic, or trivialize the brutality of 9-11 attacks…but this is the infancy of a new age of terrorism. Granted, Sony is a corporation and not a Federal Building, or a jet plane full of passengers. But think of what this could lead to, and how destructive this style of attack will disrupt our way of life. Yes, it’s just a movie…but we really need to look past that and think of other things that could become targets. Our news media, as skewed and ridiculous as its become, is still ours. Our freedom of speech, expression, and going to the movies to escape and laugh. Imagine what this could easily snowball into.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Well who in their right mind would not be afraid of THIS.[/quote]
Right? China probably helped with the cyber attack in some form.
I don’t agree with North Korea’s tactics and response.
What in the fuck was SONY thinking? They were using Kim Jung-un’s real name in the movie about the CIA wanting to recruit two reporters to assassinate him.
“Oh, well it’s a comedy!”
Who gives a fuck? The person in charge should have said “look this is a fucking funny movie, but we have to change the name of the leader before we can move forward with this. We can’t release a movie with the CIA trying to recruit some people to assassinate the bat shit crazy leader of a fucked up nation and use his actual name. We might need to change the countries name too. Hey, I got an idea lets say the name of the country is “Not North Korea, NNK””
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Uh, we should be able to use his, the Ayatollah, Putin or anybody else we want to make a movie about. It’s our country and our right to do so. Nobody should be afraid to do this. But Hollywood is a bunch of pussies.
We had tons of fodder for movies from the Cold War. No problem. We shouldn’t be afraid from foreign sources to say and do what we want in our own country.
We have tons of fodder for making islamic terrorist movies, but don’t expect to see any. The chickens in hollywood don’t have the balls to face down an enemy who uses violence as a tactic. Yet, we should not be swayed by violence, it means violence works and will invite more of it. In fact, thats exactly whats going to happen. Because of Sony and the Administration’s ineptness to deal with this situation, we are no less safe. Since threats work, we can expect to be threatened more.[/quote]
I don’t think it is a matter of being afraid. I don’t think it is responsible for a company to make a movie or right a book about assassinating a current leader of a nation and use his real name. Just because Seth Rogen is funny as shit and makes money for corporations I don’t feel his dumb ass should have wrote a movie where he uses the current leader of a nation’s real name in the plot with his assassination and it go into production without making some changes to the names.
North Korea should have handled this differently as well.
Let’s face it, North Korea caught us with our pants around our ankles. And for as much bullshit as Obama said earlier today, he won’t do shit about this.
Honestly, I think something would be quite wrong if the guy didn’t get angry that Hollywood actually made a movie about him getting assassinated by the CIA and attempted to do something about it, him being an absolute dictator of a country and all that.
In any case, I can’t imagine N. Korea actually following through with any attacks on U.S. soil. That is deliberate suicide.
I don’t think it is a matter of being afraid. I don’t think it is responsible for a company to make a movie or right a book about assassinating a current leader of a nation and use his real name. Just because Seth Rogen is funny as shit and makes money for corporations I don’t feel his dumb ass should have wrote a movie where he uses the current leader of a nation’s real name in the plot with his assassination and it go into production without making some changes to the names.
North Korea should have handled this differently as well.
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Oh really?
Well, that prompts me to personally threaten to assassinate Kimmy the Lil Bowling Ball.
Here it comes…Kimmy, you fat little fuck, I coming for you. I will slice out your heart and eat it live on the internet for all the world to see.[/quote]
I don’t know all the facts. I think regardless of the facts it would be a better world without Jung-un in power. If North Korea is responsible for these actions, they should be dealt with severely.
Can someone here please set me straight? Regarding the President’s comments, why is there a stark contrast between his reaction toward the films “The Innocence of Muslims” and “The Interview”?
I really don’t understand it. Did George Clooney have an opinion of The Innocence of Muslims? Hollywood is giving the middle finger to leaders/nations who may be offended, but I guess are they the arbitrator of what we deem as offensive? I’m lost here.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
We KNOW that DRNK is behind this. We know that DRNK is just a proxy of China. Didn’t Obama just go kow towing around China? This is a direct “fuck you” from China… And we’ll go over there again and kiss their ass again.
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I don’t think this is true.
I’m willing to bet quite a lot of things on the premise that China now considers N. Korea a loose cannon and would very much prefer to see it disappear and be absorbed by S.Korea.
The economic relationship between S. Korea and China gets stronger by the year, and any war in the Korean peninsula would cause a great deal of collateral damage to China. Especially if nuclear weapons are involved.
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
Can someone here please set me straight? Regarding the President’s comments, why is there a stark contrast between his reaction toward the films “The Innocence of Muslims” and “The Interview”?
I really don’t understand it. Did George Clooney have an opinion of The Innocence of Muslims? Hollywood is giving the middle finger to leaders/nations who may be offended, but I guess are they the arbitrator of what we deem as offensive? I’m lost here.[/quote]
The difference between the two films is that one occurred one month prior to the 2012 election (The Innocence of Muslim), the other did not.
I’ll second that, and the way this has blown up in the media, I’d wager that nobody really knows what is going on but the typical politicized conclusions are abundant.
Hacking Sony is not a national security threat. It’s a crime the FBI should be investigating, but Comey was in the news not too long ago saying he was having a hard time hiring tech nerds: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
I’m also curious what Sony’s IT budget is compared to DPRK’s cyber attack budget?
Not a bad idea. Here we jail them. Hell the kid who brought out the Steubenville rape got way more jail time than any of the actual rapists. The CIA should hire that guy, others like him, and have him go after the Chinese, Russians, Iranians and North Koreans.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
when the hackers threatened to attack cinemas showing The Interview it became a national security threat if the hackers were backed by foreign powers.[/quote]
In my opinion it becomes a national security threat regardless of backing by foreign powers here. It’s a crime until you threaten terrorist actions in a serious manner. Obviously not inclusive of the angry rants and BS all of us see every day on the internet, but when you commit a multi-million dollar crime, and then on top of it threaten seriously to commit attacks on civilian targets…well you are now not a criminal. Now you are a terrorist and that falls with our national security apparatuses.