I have a strange dilemma and I’m not really sure what to do to overcome it. I’ll go through anything recommended just to get this problem off my back. A little back story about my cutting diet: I have been cutting for 14 weeks without a cheat, reduced overall bodyfat from 19% to 13% during that phase. I went off the diet for about a month, cause I dieted for too long. I ate about roughly above maintenace so I didn’t put much fat on for my next phase from 13% to 10% bodyfat. So I started the diet again, and cheated after 2 weeks. Started AGAIN, cheated after 1 week. Then 2 more times, cheated after one week dieting.
Here’s the thing, I’m not hungry at all. I follow 40/30/20 diet, eat enough of each macro, and get my vitamins in, and measure my food. Therefore I don’t get hungry. What happens is, I have this insatiable feeling of just eating something. I was thinking it may be a dopamine or serotonin hit I get from overeating. Like a drug effect from the food.
I was wondering how I could stop this association of drug like effect from food. Is there a safe supplement for this behaviour?
I’m really desperate for help. It’s extremely hard not to binge on food when you want that dopamine hit, its much harder than when you’re hungry. I can tolerate hunger, but this is intolerable.
While on a calorically restricted diet, having cheat meals resets the metabolism by being flooded with food.
It’s not a drug thing that makes you want to cheat, it’s a caloric deficit that makes cheat meals sound so good.[/quote]
Man up its a damn diet your going to be hungry and go without.
Dont fall for the resetting your metabolism crap either one cheat meal is not long enough to do a damn thing. The only thing it may do is mentally make it easier.
If thats the case fine plan a cheat and get back on the horse accept the damage to your plan if it will keep/get you going strong,
One question- are you making progress towards you goals? If so, why would you even consider doing something to counteract that? Ok that was two questions. See- nothing is easy.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
One question- are you making progress towards you goals? If so, why would you even consider doing something to counteract that? Ok that was two questions. See- nothing is easy.[/quote]
This is a bodybuilding website. Loss of fat alone without any context to his lean body mass is useless info. I would hate to be the guy who loses 9% body fat but loses and equal amount of muscle along with it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
One question- are you making progress towards you goals? If so, why would you even consider doing something to counteract that? Ok that was two questions. See- nothing is easy.
This is a bodybuilding website. Loss of fat alone without any context to his lean body mass is useless info. I would hate to be the guy who loses 9% body fat but loses and equal amount of muscle along with it.[/quote]
That’s why I asked if he was making progress toward his goals. I was assuming his goal wasn’t to lose a shitload of muscle.
Part of it can have to do with actual mechanisms in the brain for hunger – whether one consciously perceives this or not – and that can be helped by compounds that reduce appetite (or do for many people, not necessarily all) such as A7-E; and another part is pure psychological.
Myself the easiest thing is I only eat planned specific things when dieting. Period. No exception. On a couple of rare occasions I’ve had a little trouble from deciding to a little of say some fruit I was giving my birds (they get human-quality food) and that could result in a momentary cheat of a couple hundred calories or something, but it’s obviously a dangerous thing so I avoid it.
Plus eating extremely frequently is enormously helpful. For example having three 300-calorie food meals per day, with three for-example 250 calorie MRP shakes, plus for example, available for the middle of the night two 80 calorie servings of BCAA’s in water, thus totalling in this example 1810 calories, will be far less prone to have any hunger associated than having a 900 calorie meal, another that’s 600 calories, and for the remainder of the 24 hours only 310 calories left ((to make the comparison equal.) One might well suffer starvation pangs repeatedly on the second program, but scarcely ever even noticeable hunger on the first.
Of course, those are only example values, a person will often do better with something different. Those are pretty low for most.
In terms of having something that has a value in being “eating,” in terms of satisfying some grazing drive, but does not affect a diet, I like those tiny sugarless mints, Altoids or the cheaper-and-just-as-good Walgreen alternative. Sounds like a dumb little thing but it works.
[quote]-zer0- wrote:
I have a strange dilemma and I’m not really sure what to do to overcome it. I’ll go through anything recommended just to get this problem off my back. A little back story about my cutting diet: I have been cutting for 14 weeks without a cheat, reduced overall bodyfat from 19% to 13% during that phase. I went off the diet for about a month, cause I dieted for too long. I ate about roughly above maintenace so I didn’t put much fat on for my next phase from 13% to 10% bodyfat. So I started the diet again, and cheated after 2 weeks. Started AGAIN, cheated after 1 week. Then 2 more times, cheated after one week dieting.
Here’s the thing, I’m not hungry at all. I follow 40/30/20 diet, eat enough of each macro, and get my vitamins in, and measure my food. Therefore I don’t get hungry. What happens is, I have this insatiable feeling of just eating something. I was thinking it may be a dopamine or serotonin hit I get from overeating. Like a drug effect from the food.
I was wondering how I could stop this association of drug like effect from food. Is there a safe supplement for this behaviour?
I’m really desperate for help. It’s extremely hard not to binge on food when you want that dopamine hit, its much harder than when you’re hungry. I can tolerate hunger, but this is intolerable.[/quote]
You obviously don’t want to be lean, and have no discapline/commitment.
What is your diet like? If it is all egg whites, processed powders, fat-free cheese, skim milk cottage cheese, baked chicken breasts, tuna, plain baked potatoes, etc. then there is no wonder you are hungry.
The situation might be different if you were eating whole foods like whole cheese, whole milk, whole eggs, etc. So, what are you eating?