You have multiple people telling you that you can do exactly this. Why not continue the dialog with them?
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Youāre missing the forest for the trees here. Stop worrying about glycogen stores. Eat in a deficit and youāll lose weight.
Some can not track, some have to. Find out what works for you. Everything people are saying here works, just do something.
I agree this is a mental issue if you are so committed to being āaddicted to carbs.ā Get the sweets out of the house and eat less, not much more to it no matter what route you take.
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I cannot track, I dont measure quantities (except soops of protein), I dont even ā¦ cook most of the time if at all.
So I am actually trying to come up with simple rulesā¦
- Eat as much as I like meat products. I explained I am fed up and canāt even get enough protein out of meat.
- Supply steady amount of protein via powders and substitute meals (1 to max 2 normal meals a day, the rest isā¦ shakes)
- Eating as much as I like means I have to control/ restrict carbs, be very carefull with nuts, not too much diary productsā¦
- When I eat veggies means I eat them raw. I rarely make a salad and dress with oil to be concerned about the fatā¦
- When there are cooked vegies, I DONT cook them, and since I restrict carbs (potatoes, rice), the added fat should not be a problemā¦
- If I avoid dried fruits and bananas, I think I could eat quite a lot of fresh fruits and I usually donātā¦ so no need to measure quantities hereā¦
Isnāt it all about something one could adhere to? Simple rules, right?
No scales/ cups to measure food, no counting whatsoever.
p.s. And how it is possible I do not count and measure meals, I cheat sometimes and I keep approximately the same weightā¦
All needed here is to add an extra rule/ habits to keep me slightly bellow maintenanceā¦
I would really avoid this, if at all possible. I avoid veggies in general, but if they must be consumed, I would highly advise cooking them, to help break them down and not put a lot of trauma on the gut. Fermented veggies would be even more ideal.
What are your thoughts on eggs?
Reframe here. āCheatingā is when we break the rules of a game in order to gain an advantage. There is no advantage being gained here. You arenāt cheating: you are sabotaging.
Figure out whatās driving you to get to this point. For me, it was because I was limiting my meat intake, and I was desperate to find SOMETHING to fill that gap. When I ate enough meat, I didnāt need anything else. If you canāt eat more meat, what other protein foods can you eat that will fill this void?
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Cut out cheating for two weeks and see what happens to your weight. That seems to be the difference maker here, not whatever else youāre eating.
I know everyoneās life is different but how do you have no access to cups and measuring? What do you eat? If willpower is an issue then I think youāre the perfect person to track calories because then you know what youāre eating.
Iām no expert like some of the guys on here but there are a lot of holes here in this strategy that I donāt think figuring out some crazy diet is the answer right now.
I dont mind eggs, liver (whatever animal) and many other things, part of the beauty Is that I dont want to adhere to strict meals and quantities, just restricting the regular meals to 1-2ā¦
And what to measure when I dont even prepare cooked food most of the timeā¦
Raw vegies are live food, unlike the cooked. Cooked only if cannot eat them raw (f.ex. aubergine).
No problems whatsoewer eating raw, incl raw cabbage, it is just hard to chew if u dont put oil on itā¦ 
And it is actually good for guts (at least mine), better not to go in details what happens if I miss fiber or eat only cooked food.
Then I do have some problemsā¦
This is WHY I would strongly avoid eating them.
I am very much in disagreement with this.
Iāve actually completely eliminated fiber from my diet, and it resolved all of my digestive issues. I find the need for fiber is contextual, and specifically applies to a mixed diet.
I would absolutely fill whatever void that cannot be filled from meat with eggs. If needing more protein and less fat, go with the whites. I am a big fan of liver as well, especially for curbing hunger, since itās so nutrient dense. With beef liver, Iād just be wary of Vitamin A toxicity. Avoiding eating pounds of it daily would be the right protocol.
Why?
āHey guys, i would like some help.ā
*gets help*
āNo, not that kind of help.ā
*questions why not*
āI cant do that because i donāt wanna.ā
Good luck with your diet, dude.
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Have to agree here. You are cheating on your diet and weight loss stalled. Drinking protein shakes instead of food isnāt the solution right now. Cut out the cheating before employing other tactics here. You are so married to cheat meals that you want to adjust your other calories even further down. The other calories seem to be the part he is getting right.
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See, its impossible to do thatā¦
Because he doesnāt wanna
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You can believe you can, or believe you cannot. In either case you are correct.
My dadās immediate response when I said I canāt was, āCanāt never did anything.ā
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Or as @wiseman83 and I would say down here. Yes you are right, you are a cant.
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This is a āhard mealā from these days
Beans n veggies, added cured pork, raw salad with some oil.
Donāt know calās, macros, whatever.
Know it is low carb and I eat until full.
Know protein is not enough for the day.
Taking powders feel strangeā¦ Not really hungry, not really full and feeling kind of weak sometimes.
I think it might be possible to develop a āfeelingā if u are on a deficit.
Something like tension, feeling incomplete and striving for smth.
That uncomfortable feeling makes me ācheatā until I feel content and ānormalā and thatās exactly why I keep weight.
Do u have your ways (body-mind connection) to feel/ know if u are on deficit?
First u construct meal plan, execute it, but at some point you already know from experience that you are into the ācut zoneā?
The mirror does a good job of this.
Pictures if you canāt trust your objectivity.
Example:
(Front Double-Bi, Back Lat Spread, Back Double-Bi, Relaxed Front, Side Chest, Relaxed Back)
Soā¦ you gonna read that book?
Mirror might show smth in at least two weeks or Š° month.
But how do u feel u cut day to day, except u meticulously measured and calculated every bit u ate 
If you set up your diet properly and actually follow it you feel fine until cals get very low but in the case of casual dieting(not getting ready for stage) you should not really get to a point where you are very hungry.
This will guarantee failure. You need to put the effort in to actually know what your are and what you need to be eating.
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You guys are too kind. I refuse to help those who wonāt help themselves. Way too much refusal, lack of open mind, and plain ācanātā here.
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Dude, I would LOVE to help you here if youād be open to it, because youāre in the same situation I was in, and I got out of it.
That āmealā you are eating is the same game I tried playing: I was ALWAYS hungry, and I tried filling that void with ālow calorieā foods. I had this idea that I could fill the void of hunger with volume.
Thatās not how the body works. The body isnāt hungry for STUFF. If it was, weād just eat cottonballs and get thin. The body is hungry for NUTRIENTS. Many argue we have a āprotein thresholdā, like talked about here
This is what is happening to you. As you identified: itās a low protein meal. You eat it, you are āstuffedā from food, but not satiated. In turn, at the end of the day, you cheat, because your body is smart. Itās a survivor. It WILL get those nutrients, somehow someway. And when you pick low protein foods, you BINGE in order to eat enough to finally get that protein. It takes a LOT of bread to get all the protein you need in a day, compared to egg whites or chicken breasts.
Here is a meal I used to eat, and it led to that very same amount of binging.
A VERY small steak, and then a bunch of no calorie veggies
In contrast, here is what I had for breakfast on Saturday
5 whole eggs with ghee, 3 strips of beef bacon, half a new york strip (shared with my kiddo) and some cut up grassfed beef hot dogsā¦and then I ate the rest of my kidās breakfast, which was more steak and eggs. And for dinner that day I had a full rack of ribs. And I woke up LEANER and lighter. And I wasnāt hungry: I fasted from breakfast for dinner.
You donāt need to be hungry and weak and prone to binging and cheating. You donāt need to count calories or macros either. Or at least, I should say, I donāt, but I feel like you can be in the same way here. I know @Littlesleeper had success with an approach like this, as did @Trainforpain and @freshyfresh has been experiencing it as well.
Protein shakes to achieve a protein sparing modified fasting effect followed by feasting on meat and eggs to meat your protein threshold and limit carbs will work well.
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So basically u say a bit more low carb āhardā meal?
In my case it means not to go bellow 2 hard meals a day.
I get what kind of meal u refer to, beans and some pork was what I had and gives some variety not to eat the same every dayā¦
I may say there will be a week tomorrow, not cheating, exceptā¦ Beerā¦ 0.5-1Literā¦
If I accent on lean protein shakes (at least 50% of the āmealsā) would there be a room for 1-2 beers? (250-500 calā¦)