I was about to start taking curcumin for all my training-related aches and pains. I’m mixing it into flax seed oil to help with absorption. Then, I noticed while surfing research on the interwebs that curcumin causes degradation of the androgen receptor, and therefore benefits people with androgen-dependent tumors. As a bodybuilder, androgen receptor degradation sounds bad. Anyone know of any silver linings to this cloud you can share? I would really like to reap the benefits of curcumin, but not at the expense of androgen receptor degradation.
Numerous people who are large take it. You’ll be fine. There are so many health benefits to it it would be silly not to take it.
On the subject, I put turmeric on everything because it’s cheap. I heard that mixing it with black pepper increases the bioavailability of circumin within turmeric ten-fold.
Any truth to that?
[quote]02Thief wrote:
On the subject, I put turmeric on everything because it’s cheap. I heard that mixing it with black pepper increases the bioavailability of circumin within turmeric ten-fold.
Any truth to that? [/quote]
Yes
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
[quote]02Thief wrote:
On the subject, I put turmeric on everything because it’s cheap. I heard that mixing it with black pepper increases the bioavailability of circumin within turmeric ten-fold.
Any truth to that? [/quote]
Yes
Thanks! 
Anything in excess is bad. Curcumin is also estrogenic.
[quote]seekonk wrote:
Anything in excess is bad. Curcumin is also estrogenic.
http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/turmeric[/quote]
to what degree? there are plenty of guys that take big amounts of curcumin and don’t walk around with gyno
I will try my conconction anyway. I’ve combined curcumin and chrysin together in a high lignan flaxseed oil base. If I notice loss of libido or strength I will back off. I know that people swear that it works better than anything as a natural cure for hair loss. They also attribute this to it’s it’s anti-androgenic properties. The possiblity still remians that it could only be anti-androgenic on specific tissues and not all. To answer the question about using the turmeric from the store- I believe there’s very little curcumin in it (like 2%), where as an extract will have over 80%.
No judgement on anyone here guys, but something like this seems to be a case of “don’t sweat the small stuff”.
Worry about lifting hard and eating right, the minutia usually doesn’t add up to much. I used to pubmed every micronutrient I put into my body and the confusing and sometimes contradictory results often drove me insane.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
No judgement on anyone here guys, but something like this seems to be a case of “don’t sweat the small stuff”.
Worry about lifting hard and eating right, the minutia usually doesn’t add up to much. I used to pubmed every micronutrient I put into my body and the confusing and sometimes contradictory results often drove me insane.[/quote]
this
The more I read about curcumin the less concerned I am about possible side effects. It’s anti-cancer, it’s positive effect on insulin sensitivity, fat cell growth inhibition, anti-depressant effect, it’s anti-hair loss, anti-inlammatory, and it’s positive effect on muscle cell proliferation gives it too high a score on the risk to benefit tally.
^^ we give our Dane 500mg-1,000mg/day for all of the above, and his pecs are ripped 