Age: 38
Male
Symptoms being addressed: low libido, ED, Delayed Ejaculation, lack of weightlifting progress, low energy, poor sleep, moodiness
Prescription: (weekly) TCyp 70mg x 2, Adex .5mg x2, HCG 540 IU x 2
Attached: PRE-TRT bloodwork
I’m assuming this bloodwork is while you’re “on”, correct? Are the listed symptoms present currently?
This is pre TRT bloodwork.
You had >1000ng/dL TT and 20.6 pg/mL fT pre-TRT?
Yes I did
Were you taking anything that would increase your LH / FSH? Those numbers are crazy high too.
OP, why are you on TRT? Did an actual doctor prescribe your protocol?
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Yes for the aforementioned symptoms
it’s that prescribing more testosterone for someone in your state is insanity. Or at least, it reads like it to me (an internet reader/observer). I’m withholding judgement (mostly) until I see responses from those that do more than casually dabble.
Perhaps @highpull has some experience here?
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First picture is relevant, second one is not.
I’m going to defer to someone with more expertise here. This sounds like a Turner, Kinefelter, or pituitary thing - none of which i know enough about to comment.
I’m not understanding. By looking at the scatter plot, TT is inversely related with LH levels. The few data points above standard TT ranges all have low LH. OP has both LH and TT over the top end of each respective reference range. OP would be an anomaly here, no?
I understand that exogenous T will shut down both FSH and LH so neither of those are an issue, I guess it’s just odd to see TRT prescribed for someone who has too much testosterone.
Is my understanding here correct?
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I dunno man it’s weird. If I were in that position I would get my pituitary checked out.
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I’ll definitely update this thread in a few days when the Adex starts clearing out, and the HCG is more in effect, and then see how I look in about 14 days when the T should be based. I have a funny feeling that I’ll be in a better spot. The day and one prior that I was referencing were a full on attitude, mood and libido 180.
I’d repeat the labs and add prolactin.
Some guys need a pharmaceutical level to feel good.
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There are lots of things that can cause your symptoms, testosterone is one and I find it hard to believe this was the cause of your symptoms.
You took the blue pill, take the red pill and come back to reality. These Total T and Free T levels are outstanding!
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It’s bizarre. Truly. So then yesterday evening my girlfriend is sending me filthy texts and photos because she is out and I’m not since I’m a father with my kids over the weekend and I’m just like, ready to pounce on her. So maybe there is something working slowly here which could really only be the HCG at this point. I just shot my T & H and did not take the Adex. Let’s see how we feel.
When I tried thyroid treatment, turns out I didn’t need it, I felt hormones spike and did feel good here and there, but it didn’t last long.
Just putting my experience out on this. I feel like crap, as in depressed. Wondering if I crashed my E2. Luckily I only did a week and it was last taken on Thursday. Reading it may need a 6 day period from last dose to work its way out and recover. Hoping this is the situation. Also hoping the HCG is a positive as other things I have read seem to indicate HCG helps.
Then why did you start TRT?