I eat grains at just about every meal, except before bed, and consume a minimum of 5 servings of dairy a day. I get gassy if I eat a lot of egg whites, that’s the only side effect that comes to mind–I can focus and preform at a high caliber.
Can paleo people eat potatoes? I like potatoes also.
[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
I eat grains at just about every meal, except before bed, and consume a minimum of 5 servings of dairy a day. I get gassy if I eat a lot of egg whites, that’s the only side effect that comes to mind–I can focus and preform at a high caliber.
Can paleo people eat potatoes? I like potatoes also.[/quote]
Depends on what Paleo Squad you’re talking about. Each squad draws a line in the sand where they think is best, and then tell everyone else about how they’re destroying their health if they continue to not eat like Neanderthal.
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
Thing is I HAVE noticed changes and many, many others have to. I don’t need blood work or anything else to realize what I should be eating. Pretty simple actually. [/quote]
That’s great, but I don’t understand why you feel like you should tell others what they should be eating.
Why can’t people just voice their opinions without bashing others or forcing their ideas onto someone else?
My post wasn’t sensitive, I’m just able to say what I feel without telling others “You have to eat like me if you want to live.”
Heh, that reminds me of Arnold. “Eat like me if you want to leeve.”
Ah…[/quote]
I’m not telling anyone how to eat. I’m just saying there are other ways to eat than the typical muscle mag diet. I also never bashed anyone. Why you so bent out of shape? [/quote]
But not in one of my posts did I say your name. So why are you assuming that I was even referring to you?
I wasn’t referring to anyone actually, it’s just a trend that I’ve noticed for a long time.
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I guess because you quoted me…
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
Thing is I HAVE noticed changes and many, many others have to. I don’t need blood work or anything else to realize what I should be eating. Pretty simple actually. [/quote]
That’s great, but I don’t understand why you feel like you should tell others what they should be eating.
Why can’t people just voice their opinions without bashing others or forcing their ideas onto someone else?
My post wasn’t sensitive, I’m just able to say what I feel without telling others “You have to eat like me if you want to live.”
Heh, that reminds me of Arnold. “Eat like me if you want to leeve.”
Ah…[/quote]
I’m not telling anyone how to eat. I’m just saying there are other ways to eat than the typical muscle mag diet. I also never bashed anyone. Why you so bent out of shape? [/quote]
But not in one of my posts did I say your name. So why are you assuming that I was even referring to you?
I wasn’t referring to anyone actually, it’s just a trend that I’ve noticed for a long time.
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I guess because you quoted me…[/quote]
I mean my very first post on the subject. THEN you responded to me. Then I quoted you.
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
Thing is I HAVE noticed changes and many, many others have to. I don’t need blood work or anything else to realize what I should be eating. Pretty simple actually. [/quote]
That’s great, but I don’t understand why you feel like you should tell others what they should be eating.
Why can’t people just voice their opinions without bashing others or forcing their ideas onto someone else?
My post wasn’t sensitive, I’m just able to say what I feel without telling others “You have to eat like me if you want to live.”
Heh, that reminds me of Arnold. “Eat like me if you want to leeve.”
Ah…[/quote]
I’m not telling anyone how to eat. I’m just saying there are other ways to eat than the typical muscle mag diet. I also never bashed anyone. Why you so bent out of shape? [/quote]
But not in one of my posts did I say your name. So why are you assuming that I was even referring to you?
I wasn’t referring to anyone actually, it’s just a trend that I’ve noticed for a long time.
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I guess because you quoted me…[/quote]
I mean my very first post on the subject. THEN you responded to me. Then I quoted you.
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Did you read my post right after yours? I try to be flexible and funny with all these nutrition guidelines. I’m not a strict Paleo guy anyways. I’m more of a natural foods/lower carb/ very low grain person. Works for me. All I’m saying to people is if something’s wrong, then try to do something about it. Sorry for pissing you off.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
I eat grains at just about every meal, except before bed, and consume a minimum of 5 servings of dairy a day. I get gassy if I eat a lot of egg whites, that’s the only side effect that comes to mind–I can focus and preform at a high caliber.
Can paleo people eat potatoes? I like potatoes also.[/quote]
Depends on what Paleo Squad you’re talking about. Each squad draws a line in the sand where they think is best, and then tell everyone else about how they’re destroying their health if they continue to not eat like Neanderthal. [/quote]
Here’s my take on a paleo diet, no one asked me but I’ll say it anyways–it’s a great tool for the average overweight American with +20% bodyfat. When said American goes from eating whatever to suddenly not eating grains and dairy, they are basically going on a low-carb diet–which we all know works great for fat loss. I think the paleo diet will get the overweight individual down to an ‘average’ (by most standards) bodyfat of ~12-16%. At this point, they most likely will need to be more precise with their diet than simply not eating certain foods.
From the stand point of aesthetics it takes more precise calorie planning and nutrient timing to achieve a note-worthy physique. Basically, I believe Paleo is a decent tool to get people from ‘overweight’ to ‘average.’ I don’t see anything magical about the diet, I’m going to keep killing my oatmeal and dairy over here.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Hey dude,
I’m curious. What does your diet look like? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it outlined on the site. [/quote]
Chicken breasts and rice 8 times a day, like every bodybuilder ever, as invented by Joe the Ghost-Writer of every BBing mag, ever.
Edit:
Cliff notes if you don’t feel like reading the drivel below…:
-1.8-2 grams of protein per lb per day
-enough total food for my current goals
-whatever I want and feel like
-my wife is a great cook
Seriously though, it’s a little bit hard to put down accurately as I just eat whatever combination I feel like eating… I still (mostly) keep the basic structure of a primarily carb or fat source combined with some protein source, worrying only about rough total intake (although I don’t count cals much anymore, I did that ages ago and then just added food when I needed it and now I have no idea where I’m at), i.e. that I eat enough for my goals… If I have a bad day in the gym, I usually add a large amount of cals that day (just for that day) to get back on track.
And protein intake… Still 1.8-2 grams per lb of bw per day. Half the protein I get from shakes though, sometimes more sometimes less.
In case of a Pizza (I eat a large Pizza virtually every day for breakfast after morning cardio and have been doing that for years with no negative effects on bloodwork or anything… Hey, I need the calories. Used to eat more than one per day, every day) which is obviously a mix of all three I’ll still throw in a shake or so though.
At the restaurant or wherever I just eat whatever I like/what sounds nice on the menu and try to get in some protein, but if I can’t get enough of that then whatever… No biggie. Always have powder, shaker bottles and water in the car anyway. I like Italian stuff a lot, but also some Greek dishes… Not so much standard German stuff though tbh.
Supplement wise:
Fish oil caps or cod liver caps or whatever with every meal/shake except around workout time… I get nice quality stuff fairly cheap in bulk so it’s actually not even a drain on my income all things considered. Same with the protein powder…
I get extra fiber (quite a bit actually) from instant oats powder (whenever I drink a shake by itself usually, i.e. without solid food, but not around workout time).
Some basic multi powder in morning shake and last shake of the day… Some greens kind of stuff just for the hell of it added as well to those two (not full servings though usually)… Creatine every day 5-10 g (monoh.)… In the morning if it’s an off-day, otherwise pre and post w.o.
B-vit complex tab in the morning…
Green tea extract tabs/caps in the morning before some low-intensity fasted cardio (half an hour, walking the dog or so… Just to get hungry) and a few more throughout the day but not too close to bed-time or I can’t fall asleep at all…
Pre/post W.O. shakes (I can just eat solid food, but I’ve been using shakes there for years so whatever… Again, not even all that expensive and I can get it down very quickly) are
waxy maize and some basic protein blend, sea salt or some other natural/unrefined salt, some taurine…
Used to take digestive enzyme tabs with every solid meal back when I was trying to get to 300+, those seemed to help digest the food faster (?)… Felt like I was ready to eat again sooner that way… Now I rarely use them.
There’s still bromelain etc in the protein blend I use…
Meals per day (and when exactly I eat them) vary depending on how long I stay awake and how I feel that particular day, but I usually do take in more or less the same amounts of food on most days whether it’s over 5 or 6 meals (counting shakes)… Hard to adjust your diet upwards/downwards if your intake already varies greatly, after all, but after a decade or more of doing this you don’t really have to think about it much anymore (at least I don’t), I just do it all instinctively.
-Protein sources are usually Steak, Fish, Powder, some types of cheese… Sometimes ground beef though I rarely eat that now post-“bulk”. Got money for nicer stuff.
The usual.
No milk for me… I can survive cheese, but my body really doesn’t seem to like milk, even fresh bio-etc type milk. Shame though, would make things easier. No chicken breasts either, I hate chicken-anything.
-Carb sources… Powder (instant oats and waxy maize depending on what kind of shake it is), Pasta, Rice occasionally (hard to eat a lot of it in my case, must be al dente or I can’t eat it at all haha), sweet potatoes, sometimes regular potatoes but I’m not that much of a fan there, plus whatever carbs you get from pizza… I rarely eat bread, used to be too impractical back when bulking and now I’m just not used to eating it. I don’t miss it one bit.
Yeah, and whatever else kind of carbs are in whatever I’m eating… Probably forgot a bunch here… Basically most carb sources except for overly sugary stuff… I lost my sweet tooth at some point. Just chocolate occasionally now and fruit… Does pasta sauce count? I don’t really worry about cals from that, or from fruit and veggies tbh. I just eat them and whatever. Kind of like vitamin tablets or so 
-Fat sources… Avocadoes (man, I used to eat so many of these in my bulking days, now I can barely stand them… Used to eat them unsalted and anything, with a spoon haha… Not something most people will do… They can’t be too “young” or “old” or it just doesn’t work at all), whatever fat I get from cheese, pizza and whatever… Fish oil and such obviously… Olive Oil (taste and quality varies a LOT between the hundreds of brands, I only like a few)…
Fruits and vegetables as well, but I don’t eat fruits a lot anymore. Obviously pair broccoli with steak a lot, but I don’t count that as anything or think about it much, I just eat it if it seems like it would fit with the other stuff in the meal… So think peas and carrot slices with steak and broccoli or in rice… Kidney beans with several dishes… Whatever feels right.
Yeah well. This post is kind of a mess, sorry… Except for my first half year of training or so I never really ate in a
Meal 1 = always this stuff
Meal 2 = always that stuff
-kind of way. Don’t much like that. I’m not one to eat 4+ steaks a day either…
Food sources mentioned above are just what I prepare for myself usually, my wife makes all the nice stuff I didn’t mention and half the time I have no clue what it is that she made for me, but it looks and tastes great and I trust her not to serve me something with no protein in it
Fuck that was a long post just to say that I eat what I want and have maybe two actual “rules” I stick to.
Oh btw Brick, I’ve actually gone into a bit of detail on my diet before in the “cc how do you train” thread, but that was just with the foods I felt like eating that week more or less.
The actual food always changes… Just the concepts of overall cals, protein intake and rough structure of a meal tend to be important to me.
Thanks!
That was a long-ass thread./
You know, I could probably do without the multi vit and b vitamin stuff and the greens supp… Those are mostly remnants from my bulk days when I ate very little in the way of veggies etc… 2-3 big pizzas a day sometimes (at least 2 most days) and so on, I thought I’d play it safe so to speak and take some supps back then, not sure if I still need those but whatever, they don’t cost all that much either… The fish oil is always a staple and will remain so though.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
You know, I could probably do without the multi vit and b vitamin stuff and the greens supp… Those are mostly remnants from my bulk days when I ate very little in the way of veggies etc… 2-3 big pizzas a day sometimes (at least 2 most days) and so on, I thought I’d play it safe so to speak and take some supps back then, not sure if I still need those but whatever, they don’t cost all that much either… The fish oil is always a staple and will remain so though. [/quote]
wow your bulk diet sounds awesome… two to three big pizzas a day? damn!
i know you said you don’t eat the exact same stuff everyday but just for the fun of it, what did a day on your bulk to 300 look like?