Cream to Injections

Good Morning:

I am switching to injections from cream and have gotten good advice on various aspects. My question now is that I am looking for 29 gauge 1/2 inch syringes. I assume from what I read that it is best to have interchangable needles and draw with a lower gauge (size?). My clinic I am using only has 27 gauge and the removable tips at 25 gauge. Not too thrilled about using 25 gauge for subq or shallow IM. I have tried searching the net and am quite confused. Any help on providing where people get their syringes would be appreciated.

I still haven’t decided where to pin yet but was really hoping I can get the hang of shallow IM. My doctor where I live won’t get me the test cyp so I used a clinic from advice here but doctor will teach me to inject myself and will do testing for me.

Thank you.

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Not necessary. I draw and inject with a 27ga 1/2" needle, there’s no problems with it. Have attempted the same with a 30ga and maybe I’m too indelicate, but those needles are very bendy for me and my meat clubs.

Depends on country/state. California literally gives away free needles to it’s heroin junkies to reduce the spread of AIDS, so buying clean needles isn’t an issue here. Other states they have to be purchased through a clinic… I imagine this (or something like it) to apply to you.

If you can just buy them yourself - I’ve gone with the EasyTouch Very Low Dead-Space needle/syringe through Amazon. No need for them to be interchangeable but some seem to prefer it.

My I ask do you do shallow IM or subq and what about injection sites? Any more advice for injecting newbies? Thank you for being open to telling me what you are personally doing.

I just assumed it was better to draw so the needle your injection needle hasn’t been blunted. My anxiety of doing this the first time is a little high. I searched the site and have been reading about injecting.

Reading about backfilling but that seems like storing time may be limited. I wouldn’t mind dong that for a week at a time thought. My clinic wants me to do 3 times a week and readalot posted some good info on his thoughts too based on once or twice a week. I will do the 3 times and then see how it goes.

I am shooting for a total of upper 500’s and a free of 150. I felt awesome on that until the cream had absorption issues and crashed. I just can’t get it dialed in and the ups and downs are brutal. Thanks again.

I am in the US/Nebraska

I started with shallow IM but didn’t have too many sites that worked for me as I pin daily (low SHBG), so that eventually just turned into SubQ. Frankly, I worked too hard on my muscles to go poking holes in them anyways, and I feel fine on SubQ.
Injection sites - some people like their love handles for SQ, many like shoulders for IM. My belly injections were hit and miss where sometimes they would sting like a MFer so I tried upper thigh SQ… This has been my favorite. Strangely the opposite for IM though, thighs were terrible for IM shots.

If the needle tip has been blunted any - I couldn’t tell… so if you can’t tell, did it really blunt it at all? (rhetorical)

What’s your SHBG? Most are fine on 1-2x per week, assuming normal SHBG. If low SHBG, more frequent injections may be necessary (my SHBG is bordering single-digits so I clear test rapidly - ergo daily pinning… could possibly do EOD, haven’t tried).

These numbers don’t make sense to me. Ignore your TT and get your fT to middle of the range, possibly upper 2/3 of range for ā€˜symptom relief’. Truly, the numbers are irrelevant… if you’re getting symptom relief at the bottom end of fT, then why change it? Anyways, fT is what gives you the relief of being on testosterone… TT is a dumb metric to go by, despite every doctor in existence using as their guide.
^If going for TOT (testosterone optimization therapy, typically for sports/physique) then run fT as high as your doc will let you, but this is not exactly healthy or safe in the long-run.

I was really nervous about injecting too, and still dislike it if we’re being honest. But I do it daily and never miss because the quality of life improvement I got because of it are worth it every time. It’s quite seriously a small pinch - you’ll get over it.

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I never inject with the same pin as I draw with for the simple reason that you damage the tip somewhat every time it pokes through something. Poking through rubber vial tops will damage a tip more so than poking skin, fat, and muscle. For oils, I use a 1ml or 3ml barrel with a 22g 1" needle to draw, and a 23g 1" to inject long esters, or a 25g 1" needle for short esters. For HgH, HCG, B12,etc. I draw with a 25g 1" and inject with a 29-31g 1/2" subq. All syringes and needles are available on Amazon. I would recommend Luer Lock for all. AS far as where to inject, that depend on whether you are injecting SubQ or Intra Muscle. And, the injection frequency, and your exercise plan.

Only problem with this is the volume of your dose not reaching its destination AKA ā€œDead Spaceā€.

Not saying this isn’t an effective method, just that you’re going to leave a fair bit of your compound behind.
^much less impact on those only injecting 1-2x per week, but for daily injectors like myself - this is a fair bit of packet loss.

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Thank you all for responding. I am a low SHBG guy. They told me to go EOD skipping the weekend and just do MWF or do an actual EOD if needed. Suggested I do 30 mg in each shot. I might back it down a bit due to past Test Cyp large dose issues and how I reacted. From here and my own reading I am thinking 70 mg a week to start.

I see what you mean about levels but I am shooting for 2/3 or back to 150 Ft as that made me feel very well.

I will have to decide where to pin and if I want to go subq or shallow IM. Not much fat on my thighs or I would start there due to the ease of doing it. I can’t pinch much more than an inch. I would have to go in at a 45 degree angle whereas around my stomach I can pinch and go in 90 degrees. Doing my own deltoids seem a little tricky to start until I get the hang of it.

Thanks guys, don’t know what I would do if I couldn’t ask questions on this.

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Dont stress about this, for TRT doses it makes next to no difference, where and how you do it.

You certainly won’t be able to discern the difference without seeing it on a Lab test report
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As a PSA, and a little extra clarification, yes, some of your liquid remains in any syringe, more so in a luer lock but that extra liquid was not part of your measured dose. When you draw, you measured dose starts once the liquid enters the barrel after it passes the needle and connector. As an example, the first .1ml (closest to the needle) hash mark is the same size as the second. So, if you draw .1ml dose into a 3ml syringe, you have drawn more than .1ml but you will get .1ml when you inject. There will just be some liquid remaining in the needle. I personally don’t let this bother me since I value my personal health and comfort over losing very tiny amounts of oil. And, yes, I shoot every day. The only exception to this is when I brew, I draw back some air and blow out the last bit of liquid. The purpose of this is to keep the concentration and product volume consistent.

Put a little air in the syringe before you inject. The air bubble will push out everything.