He must be on that Creatine.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Now if he had walked in on her and killed the guy cuz he was all amp’d up from the adrenaline rush, that is a little more understandable, he may have even been able to plee temporary insanity. But that wasn’t the case, he even said in the letter the only reason he killed her BF was because she told him he was a cop. Apparently the guy doesn’t like cops
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Exactly, that shooting was completely premeditated.
From his letter:
[quote]Raoul Moat wrote:
At 2.30am, they came out. I shot him in the chest and he ran off. Sam screamed and tried to stop me as I gave chase.
I fired the second and he went down. I pointed the gun at Sam to chase her and she ran off.
I reloaded two customised rounds. Sam’s was half the powder, with small-gauge pellets. With a superficial injury she would get massive compensation payout for her, inadvertently providing for me when I’m gone.
And there would be small scarring, reminding her not to ever do this to anyone again. How could she have done this to me? I put the third round into his head and went to the window and fired at Sam. It hit but she seemed OK but I paused to be sure. She crawled to the kitchen quickly and hid behind the door.
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[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]huscarl wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
so anyone else think they would of shot him as well, or am i on my own with that one?[/quote]
What do you mean Kerley?
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the guy he shot, i would of done the same thing if i walked in on him shagging my wife.[/quote]
He didn’t walk in on someone shagging his wife. His wife left him while he was in prison and told him she was seeing a police officer, when he got out he shot them both. You would do that, huh? Fresh outta prison and go kill to people over a fkn girl??
Now if he had walked in on her and killed the guy cuz he was all amp’d up from the adrenaline rush, that is a little more understandable, he may have even been able to plee temporary insanity. But that wasn’t the case, he even said in the letter the only reason he killed her BF was because she told him he was a cop. Apparently the guy doesn’t like cops
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whoopz my bad guys i thought he walked in mid sex and just flipped and is on the run.
“I reloaded two customised rounds. Sam’s was half the powder, with small-gauge pellets. With a superficial injury she would get massive compensation payout for her, inadvertently providing for me when I’m gone.”
Is this real? the letter i mean?
Ballistics will be able to confirm this, but certainly puts an interesting spin on the initial attack; not ALL creatine_rage. He’s right tho she will got dollars from the government.
Don’t hate me for this but…
Based on that, he is playing by societies “rules”, he’s playing the system, albeit from a very different and eyebrow-raisy angle.
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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
its nice to see gun control working out so well.[/quote]
We don’t have a highschool massacre in this country every week, so I’d say we’re doing pretty well.
The reality is that shootings like this are very rare in the UK (outside of London, at least), and knives are responsible for more deaths than guns.[/quote]
High schools are supposedly gun free zones kind of like the u.k. it doesn’t stop people from shooting them up.if anything it just makes them a easier target do to lack of resistance, and the fact that police have horrible response times in shootings.
and obviously the u.k.'s gun laws arent working if they where we wouldn’t be posting on Tnation in a thread titled “Crazed gunaman still on the loose.”
[quote]huscarl wrote:
“I reloaded two customised rounds. Sam’s was half the powder, with small-gauge pellets. With a superficial injury she would get massive compensation payout for her, inadvertently providing for me when I’m gone.”
Is this real? the letter i mean?
Ballistics will be able to confirm this, but certainly puts an interesting spin on the initial attack; not ALL creatine_rage. He’s right tho she will got dollars from the government.
Don’t hate me for this but…
Based on that, he is playing by societies “rules”, he’s playing the system, albeit from a very different and eyebrow-raisy angle.
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Wait so the guy kills the BF, but customizes the round he uses on the Ex so he maims and scars her? Then she gets a nice check from the Govt that she will use to Take care of his kid? The guy sounds fucking smart as shit to me. Reminds me a little of the movie Falling Down. Good flick, Guy is surely twisted, but fuck, he knows the rules and is making his own endgame. Can’t fault him for that.
Also all you english knobs are funny as hell with your dialect. Fuckin Britains.
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[quote]huscarl wrote:
@SkyzykS
How old when you got out? What offence? (i.e violent/drug/etc) were your being seriously harrassed by the Police and were you lead to believe your missus was shagging a rozzer?
You’ve implied that the crimmyrec is all that’s caused him to go rogue. But cheers for joining the discuss with more than just “/this”; better reply than the sheeple.
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There was a long stretch of incidents from age 15 (1987) to 27 (1999), and stays in jail awaiting bond, serving sentences, and years of probation for drugs and violence.
I don’t buy the whole “police were harassing me” either. You could say that they were harassing me too, but you would be wrong. Fact is, some people put a target on their own ass with repetitive criminal behavior. Cops know- “Watch that guy and eventually he will fuck up again.” and usually sooner rather than later. Furthermore, if you are in the business of protecting the public, it is in every-bodies best interest to keep a close eye on people who demonstrate a high level of disregard for the law and the people who are supposed to be protected by it.
I have a lot of friends who are going to spend the rest of their lives behind bars because they can’t own their part, and according to them, the cops are always fucking with them. They just happened to have 5 kilos of heroine in the car, or committed a homicide during a bank robbery while the cops were harassing them, Huh?
Maybe you are studying sociology or criminology of some type, or just have a fascination with criminals, I don’t know. It doesn’t matter. For me and a lot of other people, it isn’t an academic study to gain understanding. It is (or in my case was) a state of mind developed over a long period of time.
That is why and how I can spot the whinney assed victim of society role that some people like to assume, so that they can justify doing what ever they feel like, any time they want, to whom ever comes into their cross hairs.
I don’t buy the guys story, and I sure as hell don’t have any sympathy for him.
They’ve found him. He’s holding a gun to his head. Booooo!! Moat is surrounded:)
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]huscarl wrote:
@SkyzykS
How old when you got out? What offence? (i.e violent/drug/etc) were your being seriously harrassed by the Police and were you lead to believe your missus was shagging a rozzer?
You’ve implied that the crimmyrec is all that’s caused him to go rogue. But cheers for joining the discuss with more than just “/this”; better reply than the sheeple.
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There was a long stretch of incidents from age 15 (1987) to 27 (1999), and stays in jail awaiting bond, serving sentences, and years of probation for drugs and violence.
I don’t buy the whole “police were harassing me” either. You could say that they were harassing me too, but you would be wrong. Fact is, some people put a target on their own ass with repetitive criminal behavior. Cops know- “Watch that guy and eventually he will fuck up again.” and usually sooner rather than later. Furthermore, if you are in the business of protecting the public, it is in every-bodies best interest to keep a close eye on people who demonstrate a high level of disregard for the law and the people who are supposed to be protected by it.
I have a lot of friends who are going to spend the rest of their lives behind bars because they can’t own their part, and according to them, the cops are always fucking with them. They just happened to have 5 kilos of heroine in the car, or committed a homicide during a bank robbery while the cops were harassing them, Huh?
Maybe you are studying sociology or criminology of some type, or just have a fascination with criminals, I don’t know. It doesn’t matter. For me and a lot of other people, it isn’t an academic study to gain understanding. It is (or in my case was) a state of mind developed over a long period of time.
That is why and how I can spot the whinney assed victim of society role that some people like to assume, so that they can justify doing what ever they feel like, any time they want, to whom ever comes into their cross hairs.
I don’t buy the guys story, and I sure as hell don’t have any sympathy for him.
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Except supposedly this guy was repeatedly arrested for bullshit stuff, like the “scrap metal license”.
Good thing there are no guns in England or this guy could hurt someone.
(yes, that is sarcasm)
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]huscarl wrote:
@SkyzykS
How old when you got out? What offence? (i.e violent/drug/etc) were your being seriously harrassed by the Police and were you lead to believe your missus was shagging a rozzer?
You’ve implied that the crimmyrec is all that’s caused him to go rogue. But cheers for joining the discuss with more than just “/this”; better reply than the sheeple.
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There was a long stretch of incidents from age 15 (1987) to 27 (1999), and stays in jail awaiting bond, serving sentences, and years of probation for drugs and violence.
I don’t buy the whole “police were harassing me” either. You could say that they were harassing me too, but you would be wrong. Fact is, some people put a target on their own ass with repetitive criminal behavior. Cops know- “Watch that guy and eventually he will fuck up again.” and usually sooner rather than later. Furthermore, if you are in the business of protecting the public, it is in every-bodies best interest to keep a close eye on people who demonstrate a high level of disregard for the law and the people who are supposed to be protected by it.
I have a lot of friends who are going to spend the rest of their lives behind bars because they can’t own their part, and according to them, the cops are always fucking with them. They just happened to have 5 kilos of heroine in the car, or committed a homicide during a bank robbery while the cops were harassing them, Huh?
Maybe you are studying sociology or criminology of some type, or just have a fascination with criminals, I don’t know. It doesn’t matter. For me and a lot of other people, it isn’t an academic study to gain understanding. It is (or in my case was) a state of mind developed over a long period of time.
That is why and how I can spot the whinney assed victim of society role that some people like to assume, so that they can justify doing what ever they feel like, any time they want, to whom ever comes into their cross hairs.
I don’t buy the guys story, and I sure as hell don’t have any sympathy for him.
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Except supposedly this guy was repeatedly arrested for bullshit stuff, like the “scrap metal license”.
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And you missed the “paint a target on their own ass”.
Once cops become familiar with you, they are going to nail you for every mis-step. That is when people start saying “They’re just fucking with me”. Bullshit stuff or not, people just don’t get it that if you don’t introduce yourself to the cops as a criminal, they will never look twice at you.
I’ve caught a bunch of “bullshit charges” and every single one was 100% correct. 20 people walk home from the bar, but I was the one who catches a drunk and disorderly, because they RECOGNIZE me, and know that there is a good chance that I was also holding some drugs, likely a weapon, AND have a history of acting out.
The harder you live, the harder life gets. Some people just don’t get that because they can’t accept the simple fact that their actions lead to their results.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
I have a lot of friends who are going to spend the rest of their lives behind bars because they can’t own their part, and according to them, the cops are always fucking with them. They just happened to have 5 kilos of heroine in the car, or committed a homicide during a bank robbery while the cops were harassing them, Huh?
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cool friends
Good riddance
I hear that DBCooper is the crazed gunman…er…I mean Gunman.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]huscarl wrote:
@SkyzykS
How old when you got out? What offence? (i.e violent/drug/etc) were your being seriously harrassed by the Police and were you lead to believe your missus was shagging a rozzer?
You’ve implied that the crimmyrec is all that’s caused him to go rogue. But cheers for joining the discuss with more than just “/this”; better reply than the sheeple.
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There was a long stretch of incidents from age 15 (1987) to 27 (1999), and stays in jail awaiting bond, serving sentences, and years of probation for drugs and violence.
I don’t buy the whole “police were harassing me” either. You could say that they were harassing me too, but you would be wrong. Fact is, some people put a target on their own ass with repetitive criminal behavior. Cops know- “Watch that guy and eventually he will fuck up again.” and usually sooner rather than later. Furthermore, if you are in the business of protecting the public, it is in every-bodies best interest to keep a close eye on people who demonstrate a high level of disregard for the law and the people who are supposed to be protected by it.
I have a lot of friends who are going to spend the rest of their lives behind bars because they can’t own their part, and according to them, the cops are always fucking with them. They just happened to have 5 kilos of heroine in the car, or committed a homicide during a bank robbery while the cops were harassing them, Huh?
Maybe you are studying sociology or criminology of some type, or just have a fascination with criminals, I don’t know. It doesn’t matter. For me and a lot of other people, it isn’t an academic study to gain understanding. It is (or in my case was) a state of mind developed over a long period of time.
That is why and how I can spot the whinney assed victim of society role that some people like to assume, so that they can justify doing what ever they feel like, any time they want, to whom ever comes into their cross hairs.
I don’t buy the guys story, and I sure as hell don’t have any sympathy for him.
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Except supposedly this guy was repeatedly arrested for bullshit stuff, like the “scrap metal license”.
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And you missed the “paint a target on their own ass”.
Once cops become familiar with you, they are going to nail you for every mis-step. That is when people start saying “They’re just fucking with me”. Bullshit stuff or not, people just don’t get it that if you don’t introduce yourself to the cops as a criminal, they will never look twice at you.
I’ve caught a bunch of “bullshit charges” and every single one was 100% correct. 20 people walk home from the bar, but I was the one who catches a drunk and disorderly, because they RECOGNIZE me, and know that there is a good chance that I was also holding some drugs, likely a weapon, AND have a history of acting out.
The harder you live, the harder life gets. Some people just don’t get that because they can’t accept the simple fact that their actions lead to their results.
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I get what you are saying man.
Its like a known village bicycle that wanders why men always hit on her.
Even if you go down just once for lets say GBH you should expect to be watched because you obviously have a tendency to get violent and its a hell of a lot better to get ‘picked on by the cops’ just before you go all ‘alpha’ on that 120lbs girl than to be ignored until you repeat offend and the damage has been done.
On the other hand i can understand the guys situation his judgment is clouded due to emotions running wild.
Some people just don’t have that control others do. After all if everybody was rational do you think we would have flight or be putting highly combustible liquid into an engine a few feet away from ourselves then driving at Unnatural speeds .
Props to him for lasting so long though I mean England isn’t exactly a huge place nor are we a third world country.
So hes dead. Blew his head off after talking to the cops for six hours. However the true star of this story appears to be ex England football legend, and now full time alcoholic Gazza:
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6254506,00.html
Oh yeah and a bit more on the success of our gun laws. These are just from the last couple of days in London:
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
So hes dead. Blew his head off after talking to the cops for six hours. However the true star of this story appears to be ex England football legend, and now full time alcoholic Gazza:
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6254506,00.html[/quote]
OK Moat was obviously disturbed but Gazza is clearly batshit crazy! A fishing rod, a dressing gown and a can of lager??? Clearly what everyone needs in a tense gunpoint standoff.