Those cretins should be sterilized and savagely beaten. Brain dead pieces of shit
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I was watching some interviews with college students in Florida on spring break. The guys had dad bods and some of the women looked like heifer cows. I don’t doubt they might have some underlying conditions.
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…we should take insults and hostility to the other thread, folks. Humans being scared and acting deflective/dismissive out of fear isn’t anything new, nor is it a death penalty. These are unprecedented times - a severe disconnect in the age of hyperconnectivity. People will have every different opinion you can think of, so let’s keep those opinions (and opinions concerning those opinions) to the thread where that’s the main theme.
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I think there could be some relevance in that people need to know that underlying issues can be known or unknown and that many people think they are healthier than they really are. I was probably a little harsh but I was trying to make that point.
Fucking cretins
Sorry, I meant to post this here:
I just saw on CNN"s Covid-19 page that a test has been developed that might start coming into production in 2 4 weeks that costs $25 in materials to make and can determine a result in 30 minutes. It needs to be kept at 65 degrees Celsius during the 30 minutes and should be usable at home.
65 Celsius? Is that fairly typical for lab cultures/tests? Convection or direct heat? Wtf is that in American units? Do euro/canuckistani ovens use Celsius? So many questions!
It sounds like starting now, the next couple weeks will show how well mitigation measures have worked. It’s a weird phenomenon to know that the current statistics essentially show information 10 days late. It’s almost a blessing Seattle was hit first as it seems like everyone has been taking social distancing, and mitigation efforts seriously for 3-4 weeks. There was no extended period of thinking “it hasn’t happened here yet”… But then again, who knows what the coming weeks will bring.
I would do a copy and paste of the news clip, I just thought we weren’t supposed to do that for copyright reasons.
Go to:
and scroll down the entries and you will find it.
this is a quote I also got just now from the CNN Covid-19 scroll page;
“More than 300,000 cases of #COVID19 have now been reported to WHO, from almost every country in the
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The pandemic is accelerating.
It took 67 days from the 1st reported case to reach the first 100K cases, 11 days for the second 100K & just 4 days for the third 100K”-@DrTedros pic.twitter.com/XoBkVnWtLH— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) March 23, 2020
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Hopefully it’s relegated to Spring break douchers
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I thought this thread could use some activity. It seems that the natural evolution of these strains is much slower than seasonal influenza. Also, they aren’'t getting more dangerous, in terms of lethality.
As to being lab projects, they have animal sources, so that is out.
I have been meaning to post some stuff in this thread for a while be just never got around to it.
The observed mutation rate bears out what I said many posts above: the genome for SARS-CoV-2 is about 30,000 base pairs, and the genome for influenza is ~13,000. The longer the “book” the slower the observed mutation rate. Not that it’s exactly super slow or anything.
Slower mutation rate is generally correlated with easier vaccine strategy. Generally.
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So just to make sure I’m reading you right we would expect a vaccine to be more effective than the flu vaccine?
I realize that may be making you do some assumptions.
Only just a bit LOL
Too early to tell, but that is the hope yes. It depends on a variety of things. It depends on the immunological profile of cov-2 compared to influenza as well as the original SARS, and the consistency of the genome sequence in key regions between strains. In other words, how well the key areas of the virus are conserved between strains.
Key challenges will be decline of vaccine reactive antibodies (how long does the immune system “memory” remain strong?) and something called antigenic drift. Basically antigenic drift is a shift in the genetic code for specific sites that our antibodies recognize.
These are accumulated mutations in that site that a) don’t kill/hurt the virus by themselves and b) inhibit our immune system from recognizing the key sequences that tell it to attack. Somewhat like a game of “telephone” inevitably mutates the message into gibberish or something completely different and unrecognizable. If it’s gibberish, the virus typically dies or has reduced potency. If it’s a different “message”, the immune system doesn’t recognize the alarm and the virus infects like normal.
You’ll notice if you travel internationally that you’re often required to bring your vaccinations up to current status. There’s more than just a political motive to that, and it goes back in large part to these two factors.
There’s no data on this yet that I’m aware of for the new cov-2, but given it’s relatively slower mutation rate the hope is that, yes, we will have conserved areas to key the immune system towards that don’t shift rapidly.
Personally I don’t know how to judge the chances since I haven’t looked at the genomes of all active strains yet, and we don’t know how long antibodies last.
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Here’s some interesting research from Iceland. The good part is that a lot more people might have no symptoms so the rate of severe cases and deaths could be much lower than previously thought, but the bad part is that this means a hell of a lot of people could be spreading the virus while having no idea they are infected.
Hence the whole social distancing and shut downs.
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Actually Iceland didn’t do that to the same extent as we did in Canada and the US. Read the article. Part if the reason is that they took action sooner and tested a lot of people, while we tested few and didn’t do anything until it was too late. If we could go back in time we could have done something closer to their approach, but it’s a bit late for that.
Hence the whole social distancing and shutdowns.
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And masks.
In the Czech Republic, the growth of news is low whereas in other parts of Europe the pandemic is largely out of control. This occurred after the government announced it was compulsory to wear something covering a part of your mouth and nose when leaving your residences – such as a home-made mask or a scarf on March 18.