He was “the Cure” in Cobra.
Victoria plunged back into stage 4 lockdown less than 2 weeks after exiting lockdown (previous stage 4 lockdown was also announced within 1-2 weeks prior to exiting last lockdown)
State is going on 7 out of the last 12 months spent in stage 4
Vic, NSW, QLD all in lockdown. SA just exited, WA and TAS are on tenderhooks after both reporting one positive case (to my knowledge).
Another anti lockdown protest in Melbourne apparently (Herald Sun reported it). All being made out to be fascists, neo nazis and conspiracy theorists… I somehow doubt that, but anyone going against the status quo appears to be censored.
It’s actually very unnerving. To be anti lockdown isn’t THAT uncommon, looking at like 30% of the population
There’s talk of the events being organised by far right groups… I’d believe that. I can’t stand the far right or far left… but the far left here are suuupppppeerrr into locking down, far right are advocating for freedom of movement… And also racism, authoritarianism to a degree (talking about the far right) whilst the far left here are… Also into racism (anti Semitic) and authoritarianism!
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It’ll probs be a long one in Vic. Six cases, all been in the community for a long time. I think we are looking at 2-3 weeks… Followed by 5-10 days of freedom followed by another 2-3 weeks. This will continue until January, after which I anticipate permenant stage 2 restrictions, occasional stage 3 lockdowns because 10-20% choose to be vaccine hesitant and we need to justify lockdowns over people who won’t protect themselves.
Vic also has had an enquiry into cannabis conducted over the past 2 years. A loooot of money was put into this… 2 years of data collected, 89% of inquries were over legalisation, landmark report suggests decriminalisation. At the last minute the Andrews government purportedly quashes the inquery… They don’t call him dictator Dan for nothing… Don’t say that on social media though! Could get into trouble.
Cannabis regulation imo isn’t priority/of particularly high importance here… But for God’s sake, decriminalize minor possession/cultivation. People still acquire criminal records or god forbid end up in prison over personal use, it’s ridiculous! The fact cannabis possession is still considered a criminal offence in Vic astounds me. Bodily autonomy and the likes… Andrews government is all about opening more wineries, distillaries, facilitating tourism based around alcohol. How is this different?
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I instantly disliked that smug bastard the moment I first saw him on the news.
It will be interesting to see how the situation evolves once the vaccine quotas are met. Will there be a return to normalcy?
I finally begrudingly acquiesced to the ceaseless requests of the government to get vaccinated. Had jab one of the Pfizer yesterday.
I have had an erection for the last 36 hours. Might be a side effect.
Could also be the viagra and meth though. Can’t be too sure.
Thats all I got.
Not 2019 level normalcy. Probably JUST enough normalcy to avoid mass protests, but not enough to avoid extremely autocratic bills passing through parliament with bi partisan support under the guise of promoting public safety.
The way he talks about protesting “I can’t understand what they’re protesting for… That’s illegal.”
Fuck off…
“Victorians ought to be proud. We aren’t NSW, we don’t let this spread” yadayadayada
Fuck off your high horse ya smug, self congratulatory, self righteous cunt.
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“I can’t tell you how disappointed I am to have to be here doing this again,” he said.
"But with so few in the community with one vaccination, let alone two, I have no choice but to accept advice, and we collectively [have] to make this important decision to keep Victorians safe.
"The alternative is we let this run … away from us and our hospitals will be absolutely overwhelmed [with] not hundreds of patients but thousands
Andrews described the decision to lock down as “very difficult”… You decided to lock down over three cases. Granted given the level of time the cases have spent in the community letting it rip would lead to exponential growth and quite a few unvaccinated elderly people dying alongside a few middle aged individuals and 1-2 young people.
“So few are vaccinated”… Over 50–60% of all at risk demographics are fully vaccinated, 80%+ are partially immunized, 40% of those aged 16+ have had one shot and 20%+ have had two. It’s not a high vaccination rate by any means, but the prevalence amongst those most at risk would dramatically mitigate mortality figures.
“Thousands of cases”… Victoria has thousands of ICU beds set up specifically to cater towards covid patients. Why did we bother buffing up covid wards if we never intended on using them. Seems like a waste of money.
Ya know what else is a waste… The hundreds and hundreds of once popular restaurants that have permanently shut up shop.
The federal government botched our vaccine rollout by spreading a campaign of politicised fear mongering over astrazenica. The issue is so polarised people are just as scared of the vaccine (fatality rate 1/1,000,000) as they are of the virus. Atagi came out and said the risk imposed by the vaccine outweighs the benefit for those under 40… In terms of the likelihood of severe illness and death, they’re probably almost right… eventually they bumped that age up to sixty as we don’t have a no fault clause for coronavirus vaccines.
Daniel Andrews has been a critic of the federal rollout, as have I. However let’s not forget under intitial targets we’d be at around 50-60% fully immunized. What does that mean? Daniel Andrews would still be locking down right now if we are to go by the roadmap outlined.
I’m very willing to believe Dictator Dan, the Queensland premier and Mark McWanker would still be locking down past the 60% mark
Our best bet is for our society to be as obedient towards messaging to get vaccinated as they are towards our political fear mongering surrounding covid. In which case we might have a Vax rate of like 95% by early 2022.
I don’t think America had the right approach, I more/less agree with what the UK has done (not initially). That is, lock down with sustainable, non draconian restrictions until you reach 50%, then open up.
I think you’ll probably open up and place certain restrictions on such people like other countries are doing. Then there’ll be cries about being treated like “Jews during the Holocaust” lol. Like what Israel is doing to it’s population. Oh wait…
Seriously, I don’t like all this authoritarianism but I’ve learned to live with it. Australia is a Commonwealth Nation so I’m not really surprised. They can do this. It’s up to the people to determine whether they can accept it or not. I always thought you guys would be more resistant to all this than the UK.
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I don’t know what to say other than it could be worse:
“…officials curbed train service and subway usage in Beijing, where three new cases were reported Wednesday.”
But that’s literally what Victoria has just done over like six cases or something. No leaving the house aside for essential work (that can’t be done at home), police checkpoints, drone surveillance etc to mandate compliance. Very harsh penalties for those caught.
I believe public transport has been shut down. 5km radiuses, only allowed out for 2 hrs MAX by yourself for exercise.
Beijing has nearly the same population as the whole of Australia.
I’ve highlighted that multiple times. I find myself wondering if my logic is faulty. Perhaps I am missing something.
Have you compared outcomes between the two to justify your preference of one over the other?
Also.
Crazy but I saw Dan Andrews has an approval rating of 70 %. How the hell can that be. Must be that Victorians and Australians in general just love being told what to do by the government.
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Daniel Andrews is a CUNT! MSM is telling you that he is popular, just like they are giving you wall to wall 24/7 Covid scare bullshit. Its all bullshit.
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That’s a conspiracy theory.
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I don’t know.
So what do you think his actual approval rating is?
Also I am not sure its all bullshit.
Covid is a real thing. It makes people sick. Vulnerable populations are definitely at a very real risk of death.
Maybe your right. Someone close to me suspects this is all a masquerade. A farce to help the “Globalists” usher in the “Great Reset”.
“You will own nothing and be happy.”
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No doubt there are a lot of weak pricks that think he’s good, masochistic sheep! Its probably only 1/2 the numbers of what MSM is telling us. MSM will only give their agenda/propaganda.
I’ve mentioned this before. Australians are brought to orgasm by being told what to do, how to enforce public safety by any means necessary to have superior quotas relative to overseas countries.
Be it road safety, covid, gun control etc.
At the same time Australians also love to consume copious amounts of alcohol and we have a high societal prevalence of illicit drug use. It’s a super hypocritical paradigm. We care about public safety… So long as it fits the narrative our government feeds us.
He is popular, just not quite as popular as he used to be. Polls reflect that to a degree, though one must not underestimate the rally around the flag effect.
Interesting how Gladys is shat on over one lockdown yet Daniel Andrews can impose six in under one year and people literally bow down in ecstacy when they hear him talk.
“Don’t go out, all you could be doing is spreading the virus!”
Over six cases? Seems highly unlikely. Granted exponential growth over months would make it far more likely.
Baffles me that with 18 months of this and trillions spent dealing with outbreaks, hardly anyone increases hospital capacity. Seems a no brainer.
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Victoria did increase hospital capacity, dramatically. For God knows what reason. We lock down “stay home or die” isn’t an uncommon slogan here, yet the median age of death here is 86
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Turns out the opposite is true. I have a quasi plan to actually get into the UK and never come back if our police state narrative continues… Which it probably will
Our Vax quota for stopping lockdowns aside from exceptional circumstances is 70%, but we only count those above 16 years of age in the stats. So when 56% or so are fully vaccinated we are supposed to open up
With that being said, our plan is to build herd immunity so we maintain covid zero, which is laughable for something that is purportedly going to be an endemic. I imagine we will open up, cases hit 100-200/day and despite a SUPER low mortality rate with over 95% of those vulnerable vaccinated we will lock right back down.