'Country' Trend

[Derek542]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]

Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]

I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.

I did feed the chickens before work this morning…

I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]

I know.

So how many chickens do you have?

[/quote]

6

Though I also have 2 parrots 2 dogs (and 3 other dogs that live on the farm). I’m think squirel for the next pet. That should up my hillbilly quotient.

Edit:
Damn, I think I just lost some points for using the word quotient.[/quote]

Uh yea you did.

We dont make squirrels pets we actually eat them.

We dont know WTF a parrot is cause they dont lay eggs and you cant fry them.

We have a lot of work to do. [/quote]

The dogs are mutts at least.[/quote]

Good first step.

Now do you have ANY cars that are not working parked on your property?

[HeavyTriple]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Now, there is such a thing as Southern Hospitality, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]

You really believe that? The firehouse I volunteer at is comprised of the most stereotypical country rednecks you could ever imagine. They also do things like tell “off color” jokes that at least used to make me uncomfortable (Grant it, they probably tell more redneck jokes than anything).

BUT they are also some of the most caring and giving people you could ever imagine. I have learned not to mind the talk nearly as much once I got used to how they really felt. Every single one of them will literally put their life on the line to help someone else without ever considering a person’s race, religion, or creed.

It really hit me when we voted on the local parade grand marshal (the fire house runs the parade). Pretty much one guy was mentioned, and all the people went around the table saying how awesome and hard working the guy was and how he’d done so much for the town. I didn’t know who he was and had no idea until the parade that he was the former long time pastor of the local black church. Not one person mentioned or cared about his race, all they cared was that he was a good positive representative for the community.
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I absolutely believe that. I’ve lived it for 27 years, and it’s not based on a small sample. Conversely, do you really believe a group of firemen are a good sample? I think it’s pretty obvious that firemen are inherently different than the general population in terms of their concern for others.

[quote]
To me that kicks the shit morally and ethically out of some super PC white suburban slacktivist northern liberal living in a 99.9% white community voting for “equality” and lathering their moral condescension on people who tell insensitive jokes.

I think that one of the reasons the rural south is that way is because people are literally more comfortable and confident with who and what they are. They say things that the PC police hate because race and stereotypes really don’t bother them. You could call them white trash and they’d tell you Ã??Ã?¢??damn straightÃ??Ã?¢?? with a big wise ass toothless grin. The reason people get offended by stuff like that is because they themselves identify with and care about it so much.

Who is more racist? The southern who talks with and about people of any race in the same (even if insulting) way, or the northerner who, when talking about or with any minority, walks on eggshells around topics that might be deemed offensive? It certainly seems less hypocritical than declaring the wonders of diversity by trying to get rid of and change cultures that don’t function like they think it should.

If race really is just a physical color of skin, shouldn’t we be able to joke about it?

If you are super worried about racial sensitivity, the rural south probably isn’t your cup of tea, but if get beyond that, it ain’t such an evil place.

The next time you see some white guy nervously and awkwardly invite a black guy to a fried chicken, watermelon, and coolaid cook out, realize, that’s a real racist.[/quote]

You’re turning this into an attack on Northerners, and I really don’t know anything about them. Kentucky ain’t exactly the deep South, but it certainly identifies as Southern. PC talk has nothing to do with this, though I certainly have no qualms addressing racial differences. But I’m talking about the, “there’s a difference between a black person and a n*****” shit I’ve had poisoning my ears all my life. That’s objectively racist and has nothing to do with being PC.

[HeavyTriple]

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]

I’ve never met such a mythical person in the South, and my family raises cattle, I’ve ridden horses since I was a toddler, and am about a genuinely rurally “country” as a human can be, down to being a roping champion.

In fact, the only morons I’ve ever met expressing racial crap were Yankees I met in the Army who liked to call me “injun” and blacks “niggers.”[/quote]

Where in the world do you live?

[/quote]

Ruidoso, NM.

More specifically, on the edge of the Mescalero Apache Reservation, which is my tribe, literally, and my birthplace. Population couple thousand.

In the Army, I lived all over the South/SW (e.g., Ft. Bragg, Ft. Hood) when not in the Sandbox.

And I traveled all over the Deep South and Texas on the rodeo circuit (yeah, I broke bulls and roped), with actual cowboys.

… but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]

Oh, there are racists all over (of many colors, including my own tribe), but I’ve never met the mythical KKK redneck types who are actually real country people.

Real country people are overwhelmingly OK.

You can’t (easily) live in a small town and be racist because you deal with the same 1000 people your whole life.

If nothing else, the dating pool is too fucking small and you’ll never get laid.

That’s a fair point. But in my experience, the racism is significantly more subtle than the classic KKK card carrier. It’s not about blatantly treating non-whites disrespectfully, it’s the whispers they don’t want the minorities to hear.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]

Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]

I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.

I did feed the chickens before work this morning…

I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]

I know.

So how many chickens do you have?

[/quote]

6

Though I also have 2 parrots 2 dogs (and 3 other dogs that live on the farm). I’m think squirel for the next pet. That should up my hillbilly quotient.

Edit:
Damn, I think I just lost some points for using the word quotient.[/quote]

Uh yea you did.

We dont make squirrels pets we actually eat them.

We dont know WTF a parrot is cause they dont lay eggs and you cant fry them.

We have a lot of work to do. [/quote]

The dogs are mutts at least.[/quote]

Good first step.

Now do you have ANY cars that are not working parked on your property?[/quote]

Does sitting on jack stands waiting for me to put the axle back in count?

[Derek542]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]

Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]

I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.

I did feed the chickens before work this morning…

I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]

I know.

So how many chickens do you have?

[/quote]

6

Though I also have 2 parrots 2 dogs (and 3 other dogs that live on the farm). I’m think squirel for the next pet. That should up my hillbilly quotient.

Edit:
Damn, I think I just lost some points for using the word quotient.[/quote]

Uh yea you did.

We dont make squirrels pets we actually eat them.

We dont know WTF a parrot is cause they dont lay eggs and you cant fry them.

We have a lot of work to do. [/quote]

The dogs are mutts at least.[/quote]

Good first step.

Now do you have ANY cars that are not working parked on your property?[/quote]

Does sitting on jack stands waiting for me to put the axle back in count?[/quote]

yes, yes it does.

[sam_sneed1]

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

I’ve never seen it flown, except for Yankee wanna-be rednecks.[/quote]

What’s a Yankee wanna-be redneck? A transplant from the North?

I’ve taken a few road trips through the South (from NJ through Tennesse, West Va and back) and have been down to Virginia, Florida and Louisiana several times. The flag doesn’t bother me, but I’ve seen it flown many times. I’ve also met quite a few openly racist (in front of me at least) people in Gainesville, FL , Virginia, West Virginia to name a few places. This was over the years of course.

Now I’m not saying there are more racists in the South than North since I’ve seen it up here too, but I just thought it was odd some people said they’ve never encountered it in the South when I’ve seen it several times just when vacationing.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
In fact, the only morons I’ve ever met expressing racial crap were Yankees I met in the Army who liked to call me “injun” and blacks “niggers.”
[/quote]

The ones I met expressing the racial crap were all born and raised in the South and very proud of it.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Now, there is such a thing as Southern Hospitality, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]

You really believe that? The firehouse I volunteer at is comprised of the most stereotypical country rednecks you could ever imagine. They also do things like tell “off color” jokes that at least used to make me uncomfortable (Grant it, they probably tell more redneck jokes than anything).

BUT they are also some of the most caring and giving people you could ever imagine. I have learned not to mind the talk nearly as much once I got used to how they really felt. Every single one of them will literally put their life on the line to help someone else without ever considering a person’s race, religion, or creed.

It really hit me when we voted on the local parade grand marshal (the fire house runs the parade). Pretty much one guy was mentioned, and all the people went around the table saying how awesome and hard working the guy was and how he’d done so much for the town. I didn’t know who he was and had no idea until the parade that he was the former long time pastor of the local black church. Not one person mentioned or cared about his race, all they cared was that he was a good positive representative for the community.
[/quote]

I absolutely believe that. I’ve lived it for 27 years, and it’s not based on a small sample. Conversely, do you really believe a group of firemen are a good sample? I think it’s pretty obvious that firemen are inherently different than the general population in terms of their concern for others.

[/quote]

No, it’s not a good sample of the general population in the area, but I had to narrow my sample down to people who fit the stereotype. I do have a good sample of the general population in the area, and they don’t fit the hillbilly bill.

[quote]

[quote]
To me that kicks the shit morally and ethically out of some super PC white suburban slacktivist northern liberal living in a 99.9% white community voting for “equality” and lathering their moral condescension on people who tell insensitive jokes.

I think that one of the reasons the rural south is that way is because people are literally more comfortable and confident with who and what they are. They say things that the PC police hate because race and stereotypes really don’t bother them. You could call them white trash and they’d tell you Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??damn straightÃ???Ã??Ã?¢?? with a big wise ass toothless grin. The reason people get offended by stuff like that is because they themselves identify with and care about it so much.

Who is more racist? The southern who talks with and about people of any race in the same (even if insulting) way, or the northerner who, when talking about or with any minority, walks on eggshells around topics that might be deemed offensive? It certainly seems less hypocritical than declaring the wonders of diversity by trying to get rid of and change cultures that don’t function like they think it should.

If race really is just a physical color of skin, shouldn’t we be able to joke about it?

If you are super worried about racial sensitivity, the rural south probably isn’t your cup of tea, but if get beyond that, it ain’t such an evil place.

The next time you see some white guy nervously and awkwardly invite a black guy to a fried chicken, watermelon, and coolaid cook out, realize, that’s a real racist.[/quote]

You’re turning this into an attack on Northerners, and I really don’t know anything about them. Kentucky ain’t exactly the deep South, but it certainly identifies as Southern. PC talk has nothing to do with this, though I certainly have no qualms addressing racial differences. But I’m talking about the, “there’s a difference between a black person and a n*****” shit I’ve had poisoning my ears all my life. That’s objectively racist and has nothing to do with being PC.[/quote]

Which is exactly my point. Every area has it’s issues. If you lived somewhere else, you’d be pissing and moaning about the same exact thing but in different terms.

[system]

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
That’s a fair point. But in my experience, the racism is significantly more subtle than the classic KKK card carrier. It’s not about blatantly treating non-whites disrespectfully, it’s the whispers they don’t want the minorities to hear.[/quote]

I’ve never heard the “whispers,” either, at least in small towns with real country people.

If they don’t like you (for whatever reason), they’ll pretty much tell it to your face.

City folk, don’t know.

[HeavyTriple]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Which is exactly my point. Every area has it’s issues. If you lived somewhere else, you’d be pissing and moaning about the same exact thing but in different terms.[/quote]

Again, this isn’t the point. Of course racism is everywhere. That doesn’t have any relevance to it’s prevalence in the South. We’ve extrapolated on the OP, which was talking about the glorification of being country and what it represents. And around here, the glorification of country life means glorifying racism.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Which is exactly my point. Every area has it’s issues. If you lived somewhere else, you’d be pissing and moaning about the same exact thing but in different terms.[/quote]

Again, this isn’t the point. Of course racism is everywhere. That doesn’t have any relevance to it’s prevalence in the South. We’ve extrapolated on the OP, which was talking about the glorification of being country and what it represents. And around here, the glorification of country life means glorifying racism. [/quote]

I disagree, or Kentucky is just different.

Here it means, knowing everyone (and all their business), self sufficiency, tinkering with cars, hunting and fishing, going out of your way to help, raising chickens, and basically telling anyone who doesn’t like that to fuck off.

You’d get ostracized far more here for being a democrat or driving a Mercedes than being black.

[sam_sneed1]

I have one of these in my driveway that hasn’t been on the road in a few weeks. Do I get any country cred?

[imhungry]

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

I have one of these in my driveway that hasn’t been on the road in a few weeks. Do I get any country cred?[/quote]

You get ‘badass’ cred from me. Especially, if you have Cragar rims on that El Camino.

[Iron_Dwarf]

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

I have one of these in my driveway that hasn’t been on the road in a few weeks. Do I get any country cred?[/quote]

You get ‘badass’ cred from me. [/quote]

Exactly!

Yeah man El Camino

[sam_sneed1]

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

I have one of these in my driveway that hasn’t been on the road in a few weeks. Do I get any country cred?[/quote]

You get ‘badass’ cred from me. Especially, if you have Cragar rims on that El Camino.[/quote]

Thanks! Yup, those wheels are made by Cragar. But, it’s a Ford Ranchero. The original cruck. I love El Camino’s too so no offense taken lol. It’s currently on jack stands awaiting a new set of springs.

[rcsermas]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Now, there is such a thing as Southern Hospitality, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]

You really believe that? The firehouse I volunteer at is comprised of the most stereotypical country rednecks you could ever imagine. They also do things like tell “off color” jokes that at least used to make me uncomfortable (Grant it, they probably tell more redneck jokes than anything).

BUT they are also some of the most caring and giving people you could ever imagine. I have learned not to mind the talk nearly as much once I got used to how they really felt. Every single one of them will literally put their life on the line to help someone else without ever considering a person’s race, religion, or creed.

It really hit me when we voted on the local parade grand marshal (the fire house runs the parade). Pretty much one guy was mentioned, and all the people went around the table saying how awesome and hard working the guy was and how he’d done so much for the town. I didn’t know who he was and had no idea until the parade that he was the former long time pastor of the local black church. Not one person mentioned or cared about his race, all they cared was that he was a good positive representative for the community.

To me that kicks the shit morally and ethically out of some super PC white suburban slacktivist northern liberal living in a 99.9% white community voting for “equality” and lathering their moral condescension on people who tell insensitive jokes.

I think that one of the reasons the rural south is that way is because people are literally more comfortable and confident with who and what they are. They say things that the PC police hate because race and stereotypes really don’t bother them. You could call them white trash and they’d tell you Ã??Ã?¢??damn straightÃ??Ã?¢?? with a big wise ass toothless grin. The reason people get offended by stuff like that is because they themselves identify with and care about it so much.

Who is more racist? The southern who talks with and about people of any race in the same (even if insulting) way, or the northerner who, when talking about or with any minority, walks on eggshells around topics that might be deemed offensive? It certainly seems less hypocritical than declaring the wonders of diversity by trying to get rid of and change cultures that don’t function like they think it should.

If race really is just a physical color of skin, shouldn’t we be able to joke about it?

If you are super worried about racial sensitivity, the rural south probably isn’t your cup of tea, but if get beyond that, it ain’t such an evil place.

The next time you see some white guy nervously and awkwardly invite a black guy to a fried chicken, watermelon, and coolaid cook out, realize, that’s a real racist.[/quote]

Great post.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Does sitting on jack stands waiting for me to put the axle back in count?[/quote]

yes, yes it does.[/quote]

Don’t get too excited. It’s a Honda and the axle is a front half shaft.

[Achilles_of_war]

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
I often hear people tell stories of magical places that only have one or two country music stations on the radio.[/quote]

Hell, where im at in Alabama we only have 2, one for new pop country and one old pop country. [/quote]

what part of Alabama are you in hoe

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
I often hear people tell stories of magical places that only have one or two country music stations on the radio.[/quote]

Hell, where im at in Alabama we only have 2, one for new pop country and one old pop country. [/quote]

what part of Alabama are you in hoe[/quote]

He forgot to mention, those are the only radio stations.

[StructureInChaos]

[quote]rcsermas wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Now, there is such a thing as Southern Hospitality, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]

You really believe that? The firehouse I volunteer at is comprised of the most stereotypical country rednecks you could ever imagine. They also do things like tell “off color” jokes that at least used to make me uncomfortable (Grant it, they probably tell more redneck jokes than anything).

BUT they are also some of the most caring and giving people you could ever imagine. I have learned not to mind the talk nearly as much once I got used to how they really felt. Every single one of them will literally put their life on the line to help someone else without ever considering a person’s race, religion, or creed.

It really hit me when we voted on the local parade grand marshal (the fire house runs the parade). Pretty much one guy was mentioned, and all the people went around the table saying how awesome and hard working the guy was and how he’d done so much for the town. I didn’t know who he was and had no idea until the parade that he was the former long time pastor of the local black church. Not one person mentioned or cared about his race, all they cared was that he was a good positive representative for the community.

To me that kicks the shit morally and ethically out of some super PC white suburban slacktivist northern liberal living in a 99.9% white community voting for “equality” and lathering their moral condescension on people who tell insensitive jokes.

I think that one of the reasons the rural south is that way is because people are literally more comfortable and confident with who and what they are. They say things that the PC police hate because race and stereotypes really don’t bother them. You could call them white trash and they’d tell you Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??damn straightÃ???Ã??Ã?¢?? with a big wise ass toothless grin. The reason people get offended by stuff like that is because they themselves identify with and care about it so much.

Who is more racist? The southern who talks with and about people of any race in the same (even if insulting) way, or the northerner who, when talking about or with any minority, walks on eggshells around topics that might be deemed offensive? It certainly seems less hypocritical than declaring the wonders of diversity by trying to get rid of and change cultures that don’t function like they think it should.

If race really is just a physical color of skin, shouldn’t we be able to joke about it?

If you are super worried about racial sensitivity, the rural south probably isn’t your cup of tea, but if get beyond that, it ain’t such an evil place.

The next time you see some white guy nervously and awkwardly invite a black guy to a fried chicken, watermelon, and coolaid cook out, realize, that’s a real racist.[/quote]

Great post.[/quote]

x2

But back to the original topic, yes, I have a lot of those where I am from. I think it started back when George W. Bush became president. All of a sudden it was cool to be a “cowboy”. There were certain regions in my hometown that all of the upper middle class yuppie kids decided they were country. Girls wore overalls, guys wore cowboy hats and boots. It never made sense to me, but fuck it, if that is what they like, more power to them. The bonfires they had tended to be pretty fun anyways.

[SkyzykS]

A bunch of kids do that around here too (south suburbs of Pittsburgh).

It’s funnier than hell seeing them all get out of a Range Rover with their cut off sleeves, purposefully messy jeans, and dragging the heels of their wal-mart work boots.

Kinda reminds me of Pinocchio- “Someday, I wanna be a real boy!”.