[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
What ignorance and obnoxious behavior are you referring to?
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
I often hear people tell stories of magical places that only have one or two country music stations on the radio.[/quote]
Hell, where im at in Alabama we only have 2, one for new pop country and one old pop country.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
Something like “Ma n Pa wz couzins but we kds r aw rite.”
You should hear how the “West Germans” talk about the “Ossis (east)” here. They would have you believe that they still live in caves.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
I legitimately hate country music, but I don’t hate country people either. But yea, the ignorance gets old. And if I hear one more motherfucker defend the Confederate flag I’m going to snap.[/quote]
Yeah, I’m sure the people of jersey shore are models of intellect and understanding.
What gets old is everyone always accerting ignorance, bigotry, and racism are southern things.
All those things are part of the human condition.
I do agree that the debate about the flag gets old, but in my experience, people defending it are more knowledgeable than the people who attack it.
But, on a bright note, in my approximately a year of volunteering at the fire department, I got thanked yesterday for the first time (by someone not in the department). So maybe, just maybe, there are some decent people out there.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
I’ve never met such a mythical person in the South, and my family raises cattle, I’ve ridden horses since I was a toddler, and am about a genuinely rurally “country” as a human can be, down to being a roping champion.
In fact, the only morons I’ve ever met expressing racial crap were Yankees I met in the Army who liked to call me “injun” and blacks “niggers.”
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
I legitimately hate country music, but I don’t hate country people either. But yea, the ignorance gets old. And if I hear one more motherfucker defend the Confederate flag I’m going to snap.[/quote]
I’ve never seen it flown, except for Yankee wanna-be rednecks.
DD and thethirdruffian: Maybe I wasn’t clear in my post, which is my own fault. It doesn’t seem to be genuine country people who are guilty of this. It’s those who ‘claim’ they act in certain ways because of where there from, as if living here in the Louisville, KY is ‘rural’.
I agree all groups of people with different affiliations have their ‘morons’ they have to deal with. Just I notice it often here where I’m from. Ohh, and the actions I was referring too, is usually when it’s a larger number of them, where the n-word is used pretty nonchalantly for really no reason, screwing up people’s lawns by mowing through them with trucks just for the hell of it, and just small things like that.
Not saying ALL people that are associated with being ‘country’ are like that. Just many people who ‘claim’ to be (the wannabe Rednecks 3rdRuffian was talking about) are the ones responsible for it.
Just for reference, I grew up a large chunk of my life in an extremely rural area of KY, so I have a love for certain aspects of the culture. Just not what it’s becoming in the ‘mainstream’.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
I legitimately hate country music, but I don’t hate country people either. But yea, the ignorance gets old. And if I hear one more motherfucker defend the Confederate flag I’m going to snap.[/quote]
Yeah, I’m sure the people of jersey shore are models of intellect and understanding.
What gets old is everyone always accerting ignorance, bigotry, and racism are southern things.
All those things are part of the human condition.
I do agree that the debate about the flag gets old, but in my experience, people defending it are more knowledgeable than the people who attack it.
But, on a bright note, in my approximately a year of volunteering at the fire department, I got thanked yesterday for the first time (by someone not in the department). So maybe, just maybe, there are some decent people out there.
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Your experience is much different than mine, then. The only argument I’ve ever heard revolves around it being about “Southern Pride.” That’s not one person, either. Also, I realize there’s ignorance everywhere, but I live in the middle of this type of ignorance, so it’s a lot more real to me. I hate the celebration of ignorance anywhere, so naturally I hate the glorification of the people on Jersey Shore. But again, I can at least escape that nonsense.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
I’ve never met such a mythical person in the South, and my family raises cattle, I’ve ridden horses since I was a toddler, and am about a genuinely rurally “country” as a human can be, down to being a roping champion.
In fact, the only morons I’ve ever met expressing racial crap were Yankees I met in the Army who liked to call me “injun” and blacks “niggers.”[/quote]
Where in the world do you live? I live in a community of nearly 300,000 that still identifies as rural and is 81% white. There are racists everywhere. Now, there is such a thing as Southern Hospitality, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I don’t HATE country music, or genuinely country people. I hate the fact if you live in the ‘South’, ppl feel an obligation to validate ignorance or obnoxious behavior because ‘That’s how we was raised! Yeehaw!’. [/quote]
I’ve never met such a mythical person in the South, and my family raises cattle, I’ve ridden horses since I was a toddler, and am about a genuinely rurally “country” as a human can be, down to being a roping champion.
In fact, the only morons I’ve ever met expressing racial crap were Yankees I met in the Army who liked to call me “injun” and blacks “niggers.”[/quote]
Where in the world do you live?
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Ruidoso, NM.
More specifically, on the edge of the Mescalero Apache Reservation, which is my tribe, literally, and my birthplace. Population couple thousand.
In the Army, I lived all over the South/SW (e.g., Ft. Bragg, Ft. Hood) when not in the Sandbox.
And I traveled all over the Deep South and Texas on the rodeo circuit (yeah, I broke bulls and roped), with actual cowboys.
[quote]
… but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]
Oh, there are racists all over (of many colors, including my own tribe), but I’ve never met the mythical KKK redneck types who are actually real country people.
Real country people are overwhelmingly OK.
You can’t (easily) live in a small town and be racist because you deal with the same 1000 people your whole life.
If nothing else, the dating pool is too fucking small and you’ll never get laid.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Now, there is such a thing as Southern Hospitality, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t more racists around here.[/quote]
You really believe that? The firehouse I volunteer at is comprised of the most stereotypical country rednecks you could ever imagine. They also do things like tell “off color” jokes that at least used to make me uncomfortable (Grant it, they probably tell more redneck jokes than anything).
BUT they are also some of the most caring and giving people you could ever imagine. I have learned not to mind the talk nearly as much once I got used to how they really felt. Every single one of them will literally put their life on the line to help someone else without ever considering a person’s race, religion, or creed.
It really hit me when we voted on the local parade grand marshal (the fire house runs the parade). Pretty much one guy was mentioned, and all the people went around the table saying how awesome and hard working the guy was and how he’d done so much for the town. I didn’t know who he was and had no idea until the parade that he was the former long time pastor of the local black church. Not one person mentioned or cared about his race, all they cared was that he was a good positive representative for the community.
To me that kicks the shit morally and ethically out of some super PC white suburban slacktivist northern liberal living in a 99.9% white community voting for “equality” and lathering their moral condescension on people who tell insensitive jokes.
I think that one of the reasons the rural south is that way is because people are literally more comfortable and confident with who and what they are. They say things that the PC police hate because race and stereotypes really don’t bother them. You could call them white trash and they’d tell you Ã?¢??damn straightÃ?¢?? with a big wise ass toothless grin. The reason people get offended by stuff like that is because they themselves identify with and care about it so much.
Who is more racist? The southern who talks with and about people of any race in the same (even if insulting) way, or the northerner who, when talking about or with any minority, walks on eggshells around topics that might be deemed offensive? It certainly seems less hypocritical than declaring the wonders of diversity by trying to get rid of and change cultures that don’t function like they think it should.
If race really is just a physical color of skin, shouldn’t we be able to joke about it?
If you are super worried about racial sensitivity, the rural south probably isn’t your cup of tea, but if get beyond that, it ain’t such an evil place.
The next time you see some white guy nervously and awkwardly invite a black guy to a fried chicken, watermelon, and coolaid cook out, realize, that’s a real racist.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly
Yuppie wanna be hillbillies sounds about right. Only wears cowboy hates to country concerts, grew up upper middle class in the north (Cleveland), and now claim country music is the greatest thing ever; sounds like a lot of adults i know.
Cant stand that shit, or country music.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
Well, it takes one to kn…
Ah hell! I can’t insult YOU like that, Derek!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
Well, it takes one to kn…
Ah hell! I can’t insult YOU like that, Derek!
;)[/quote]
hahaahahahahhahaha since Double D is from my home state I have to fuck with him when I can.
I was born and raised in the South with the belief of never to look at a mans skin but look at what his actions are.
But really I am a highly educated Hillbilly so dont take it as an insult ID.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.
I did feed the chickens before work this morning…
I’ll get there eventually.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.
I did feed the chickens before work this morning…
I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]
I know.
So how many chickens do you have?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.
I did feed the chickens before work this morning…
I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]
I know.
So how many chickens do you have?
[/quote]
6
Though I also have 2 parrots 2 dogs (and 3 other dogs that live on the farm). I’m think squirel for the next pet. That should up my hillbilly quotient.
Edit:
Damn, I think I just lost some points for using the word quotient.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.
I did feed the chickens before work this morning…
I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]
I know.
So how many chickens do you have?
[/quote]
6
Though I also have 2 parrots 2 dogs (and 3 other dogs that live on the farm). I’m think squirel for the next pet. That should up my hillbilly quotient.
Edit:
Damn, I think I just lost some points for using the word quotient.[/quote]
Uh yea you did.
We dont make squirrels pets we actually eat them.
We dont know WTF a parrot is cause they dont lay eggs and you cant fry them.
We have a lot of work to do.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard stuff for adults where I live.[/quote]
Redneck Hillbilly [/quote]
I’m actually not, but it isn’t for lack of trying.
I did feed the chickens before work this morning…
I’ll get there eventually.[/quote]
I know.
So how many chickens do you have?
[/quote]
6
Though I also have 2 parrots 2 dogs (and 3 other dogs that live on the farm). I’m think squirel for the next pet. That should up my hillbilly quotient.
Edit:
Damn, I think I just lost some points for using the word quotient.[/quote]
Uh yea you did.
We dont make squirrels pets we actually eat them.
We dont know WTF a parrot is cause they dont lay eggs and you cant fry them.
We have a lot of work to do. [/quote]
The dogs are mutts at least.