This may be a dumb question. I searched for the answer on my own, but couldn’t find the answer that I wanted.
I’ve been trying to get a better handle on my nutrition this summer; and following a friend’s advice, I started using a scale and an online food database to record my macros. My friend follows If it fits your macros (or whatever that diet plan is called). So according to him, the protein, carbs, and fats in let’s say oats all counts towards my macros at the end of the day.
But in reading the nutrition articles on here (Shelby Starnes, for example), I am a bit confused. He counts cottage cheese as a protein source. So my question is this: If you are supposed to eat for example 25 g of fat, 30 g of carbs, and 55 g of protein in one meal… would the carbs, fats, and protein in cottage cheese all count towards those goals or is the intention that, as a protein source, only the protein in the cottage cheese counts?
[quote]wildcat09 wrote:
This may be a dumb question. I searched for the answer on my own, but couldn’t find the answer that I wanted.
I’ve been trying to get a better handle on my nutrition this summer; and following a friend’s advice, I started using a scale and an online food database to record my macros. My friend follows If it fits your macros (or whatever that diet plan is called). So according to him, the protein, carbs, and fats in let’s say oats all counts towards my macros at the end of the day.
But in reading the nutrition articles on here (Shelby Starnes, for example), I am a bit confused. He counts cottage cheese as a protein source. So my question is this: If you are supposed to eat for example 25 g of fat, 30 g of carbs, and 55 g of protein in one meal… would the carbs, fats, and protein in cottage cheese all count towards those goals or is the intention that, as a protein source, only the protein in the cottage cheese counts?[/quote]
Fuck if I know, I guess it depends on who you listen to. But, to not count all the macros in a food, maybe outside of green veggies-carbs sounds silly to me.
But either way, as long as you consistently use the same system/method for your calcs and make adjustments as needed you will be fine.
Don’t try to mow your lawn when the house is on fire 
thanks, i’ll keep that in mind.
" the numbers only reflect the protein in the protein foods, carbs in the carb foods and fat in the fat foods. So the total counts of each macro nutrient are somewhat higher as is the total caloric intake. I wrote this program to be as simple as possible to follow and I did get counting that way from Shelby’s influence."
This is why I’m a bit confused. That was a livespill comment that Matt Kroc made on his article about off season mass-gaining diet. I don’t mean to nit-pick, but I just wanted to hear other opinions.
It’s much easier to simply classify foods into one of the three categories, P, F, or C. When you start tryign to count the 4 grams of protein from your oats, it just gets to be too much.
[quote]wildcat09 wrote:
" the numbers only reflect the protein in the protein foods, carbs in the carb foods and fat in the fat foods. So the total counts of each macro nutrient are somewhat higher as is the total caloric intake. I wrote this program to be as simple as possible to follow and I did get counting that way from Shelby’s influence."
This is why I’m a bit confused. That was a livespill comment that Matt Kroc made on his article about off season mass-gaining diet. I don’t mean to nit-pick, but I just wanted to hear other opinions.[/quote]
I read shelby’s explanation for this somewhere (?elitefts), basically he said it makes life easier and as long as you are consistent with the method it still works for tracking changes. He did qualify that with needing to look at all the macros in some foods, I think he used fatty cuts of steak as an example.
thanks guys, I really appreciate the input. I really want to get a better handle on my diet.
You also might think about a couple things as well…like don’t count the protein in grains as it’s not a “complete” protein (though it still counts as a calorie), or the protein in nuts which doesn’t get absorbed, unless eaten with dairy. I wouldn’t even count any macro in a leafy or green veg, ie; brussel sprouts, broccoli, green beans, onion ect…Good minerals and vit/antiox’s though.
If you have to count that, then there is a bigger problem.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
or the protein in nuts which doesn’t get absorbed, unless eaten with dairy. [/quote]
Que?
I understand that. It’ll make things a lot simpler to count that way. Thanks for all the input guys.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
or the protein in nuts which doesn’t get absorbed, unless eaten with dairy. [/quote]
Que?[/quote]
This seemed odd to me too.
I’m not sure what he meant by getting absorbed, but nuts, wheat, and beans are not complete protein sources. Each are missing some essential amino acid, and supposedly you’re supposed to eat “compliments” to get the full array of amino acids. That right?
[quote]wildcat09 wrote:
I’m not sure what he meant by getting absorbed, but nuts, wheat, and beans are not complete protein sources. Each are missing some essential amino acid, and supposedly you’re supposed to eat “compliments” to get the full array of amino acids. That right?[/quote]
This has been of debate lately and the new thinking this is not an issue.
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
or the protein in nuts which doesn’t get absorbed, unless eaten with dairy. [/quote]
Que?[/quote]
This seemed odd to me too.[/quote]
OK, so I got this info from a credible study about ten years ago. It said that the protein from nuts was mostly un absorbed unless eaten with a dairy product. I cannot find the study now, and don’t know the science behind it, but it made sense at the time. I though this was generally known?
I spent a few minutes looking for the study to no avail. I don’t generally spread “bro knowledge” around, so I maybe I’m wrong. I’ll cop to it if I am.
count all your macros in every food source.
if you are eating 3000 calories total daily you do want to count the protein that is in your rice or the fat in your blue berries. this shit adds up and if you don’t your caloric intake could end up being 3500 rather than 3000. know what I mean?
incomplete proteins should be counted just like complete proteins.
if you are eating a variety of foods these are all reorganized in your body not to mention plant protein sources are more readily available for use over meat sources because they are not bound and easily digested or something like that.